If there was a snap US election tomorrow who would you vote for Trump or a Penguin?

[PomPolo]

In the event that there was a snap US election tomorrow in the possible event he was no longer the Ooompa Loompa in chief who would you vote for?

[blaze master]

7 minutes ago, PomPolo said:

In the event that there was a snap US election tomorrow in the possible event he was no longer the Ooompa Loompa in chief who would you vote for?

 

I would vote for Biden. 

[GammaGlobulin]

[NoDisplayName]

would you vote for Trump or a Penguin?

 

Why rerun the last election?

[GammaGlobulin]

31 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

would you vote for Trump or a Penguin?

 

Why rerun the last election?

 

Because, nobody had enough of it during the first run.

Need a re-run.

 

I want to see that broad lose, just ONE MORE TIME.....Big Time...!!!

 

[spidermike007]

I would vote for Mylie Cyrus over Trump. Or Shai Lebeouf. Or Cory Booker. Anyone but Trump. 

[Felton Jarvis]

I would literally vote for ANYONE over Trump. He is dangerous and erratic. His tariffs will end in a recession.

[TorquayFan]

Undoubtedly, I'd vote for the Penguin !!

[bunnydrops]

3 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

You're right! Same, Same but different>

[MalcolmB]

The USA is a democracy.

The idiots voted for Trump not once, but twice. 

So they deserve him and are apparently happy with him despite being poorer with less services. That he is a fraudster, a sexual pest, liar and a cheater does not worry Americans. They love it.

 

The USA is always in wars, better for everyone else if they turn on themselves more as they did when he lost against Biden. 

 

[Presnock]

Trump obviously was advised of this poll and that is why he put a tariff on that island that only houses penguins.  He was trying to fix it so that they couldn't find a suitable replacement on the Democrat ballot. IMHO anyway

[impulse]

Pretty impressive penguins that did $1.4 million in exports to the USA in 2022.

 

 

 

Upper graphic is from US HTC.  Lower graphic is from World Bank.

[impulse]

1 minute ago, PomPolo said:

Heard Island and McDonald Islands (HIMI), remote and uninhabited Australian territories in the southern Indian Ocean, have recorded minimal exports to the United States. According to World Bank data, U.S. imports from HIMI amounted to approximately $1.4 million in 2022, predominantly categorized under "machinery and electrical" goods. However, investigations have revealed that these figures likely stem from mislabelled shipments, where goods originating from countries like Austria were incorrectly documented as coming from HIMI .

So you admit is was a mistake then!!!!!!

 

Not at all.  Lots of shipments are mislabeled.  Sometimes accidentally, but often to avoid tariffs.  The way Trump will keep that from happening is to impose duties on all the sources listed in the HTS so it isn't an advantage to deliberately mis state the Country of Origin.  And the graphic from the US HTS is from the 2011 edition.  So the US has recognized them as a discrete source (Under Australia, not Austria) long before Trump.

 

BTW, I dug into it because I was curious whether they were exporting penguin poop as a fertilizer, like some islands.  Turns out the penguins were selling electronics.

 

[PomPolo]

I wondered what those black and white things were at the back of my class at University all makes sense now 🤣

[Jingthing]

Of course the U.S. can't have snap elections under the constitution, nor could a penguin or any other non-human be eligible for the presidency.

It would have been a much better question to ask if people would vote for Putin's useful idiot Trump vs. any unknown random qualified for the presidency under the constitution citizen. Anybody. Throw a dart at a list of names.

The odds are such a random person wouldn't have the background to be president, but most likely wouldn't share Trump's horrific nature so he would likely know enough to seek advice from DECENT people. 

So yes a gamble to go with candidate X, but not much of one.

Trump is actively destroying America and has damaged it's brand for at least numerous generations. Hard to be worse than that,

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

The USA is a democracy.

The idiots voted for Trump not once, but twice. 

So they deserve him and are apparently happy with him despite being poorer with less services. That he is a fraudster, a sexual pest, liar and a cheater does not worry Americans. They love it.

 

The USA is always in wars, better for everyone else if they turn on themselves more as they did when he lost against Biden. 

 

Who is poorer & what services have americans lost?

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

Not at all.  Lots of shipments are mislabeled.  Sometimes accidentally, but often to avoid tariffs.  The way Trump will keep that from happening is to impose duties on all the sources listed in the HTS so it isn't an advantage to deliberately mis state the Country of Origin.  And the graphic from the US HTS is from the 2011 edition.  So the US has recognized them as a discrete source (Under Australia, not Austria) long before Trump.

 

BTW, I dug into it because I was curious whether they were exporting penguin poop as a fertilizer, like some islands.  Turns out the penguins were selling electronics.

 

Yes, Trump is quite sensibly ensuring that people cannot avoid tariffs by using a different origin.  I'm not sure why people are trying to lie about this to make Trump look bad.  Oh, wait, yes I do...  🙄

[impulse]

6 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Yes, Trump is quite sensibly ensuring that people cannot avoid tariffs by using a different origin.  I'm not sure why people are trying to lie about this to make Trump look bad.  Oh, wait, yes I do...  

 

They're counting on people not understanding the Byzantine system of tariffs.  And if you don't have your country's Harmonized Trade System PDF on your computer, you probably don't understand that imposing tariffs by country code like that is very normal. 

 

I update mine about once a year, though it is updated almost daily in real time. (2024 was 4,392 pages)

 

I'd make a remark about "low information voters", but...

 

[MalcolmB]

44 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Who is poorer & what services have americans lost?

Every consumer will paying more for goods that America doesn’t make and imports.

The dopey Americans voted for higher taxes. 
Most of them haven’t realized yet, it will take about a year and they will all start complaining about higher prices. 
Trump has already performed a double backflip, first postponing for 90 days and now exempting some electrical goods. 
 

And of course investors are all poorer, Dow down about 5% since he took over. 
Musk is also poorer. 

[impulse]

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

Most of them haven’t realized yet,

 
Because it hasn't happened, and probably never will.  The sky is not falling.  But here's what is happening, from VDH who is a lot smarter than me:

 

 

 

[frank83628]

7 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Every consumer will paying more for goods that America doesn’t make and imports.

The dopey Americans voted for higher taxes. 
Most of them haven’t realized yet, it will take about a year and they will all start complaining about higher prices. 
Trump has already performed a double backflip, first postponing for 90 days and now exempting some electrical goods. 
 

And of course investors are all poorer, Dow down about 5% since he took over. 
Musk is also poorer. 

Gas prices have dropped, s, inflation has dropped, everything rose under Biden but didnt see the media attacking him daily... just the opposite in fact.

Tariffs are under discussion with many countries,

Investments rise and fall, the stick market increased when trump took office, so all these 'investors' made money, were the media thanking Trump?

 

[Dcheech]

Penguins are far more intelligent & emotionally stable than Donald Trump. It's a no brainer.

 

 

 

[MalcolmB]

5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Biden but didnt see the media attacking him daily.

Can I recommend you switch over to Fox News. They are still on about him daily.

 

6 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Investments rise and fall, the stick market increased when trump took office, so all these 'investors' made money, were the media thanking Trump?

Trump was claiming credit. It didn’t last long and is down 5% since he took office.

 

7 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Gas prices have dropped, s, inflation has dropped

Give it a couple of months, the tariff taxes have only just been applied.

[MalcolmB]

17 minutes ago, impulse said:

 
Because it hasn't happened, and probably never will.  The sky is not falling.  But here's what is happening, from VDH who is a lot smarter than me:

 

 

 

If you tax all imports of course it will cause inflation.

Just like all the quantitive easy under Trump caused inflation last time.

[impulse]

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

If you tax all imports of course it will cause inflation.

Just like all the quantitive easy under Trump caused inflation last time.

 

Quantitative easy.  Says all I need to know.  You're parroting words.

 

 

[MalcolmB]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

Quantitative easy.  Says all I need to know.  You're parroting words.

 

 

QE causes inflation.

Most MAGAs don’t realize that so I am surprised you have no idea.

[impulse]

Just now, MalcolmB said:

QE causes inflation.

Most MAGAs don’t realize that so I am surprised you have no idea.

 

It's quantitative easing.  Not quantitative easy.  

 

[frank83628]

9 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Can I recommend you switch over to Fox News. They are still on about him daily.

 

Trump was claiming credit. It didn’t last long and is down 5% since he took office.

 

Give it a couple of months, the tariff taxes have only just been applied.

Fox.... so 1 channel as opposed to the entire left bias MSM attacking Trump.

 

Its dropped 5% now, but what % did it rise when he won?

 

So hysterical 'sky fall' posts about price increases when tariff negotiations are only just beginning...

 

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/bets-trump-20-winners-losers-whip-up-markets-2024-11-06/

[oxo1947]

[MalcolmB]

15 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

It's quantitative easing.  Not quantitative easy.  

 

Auto spelled.

i think you knew that though.

Take it easing.