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1 minute ago, Sierra Tango said:

Thai beef certainly takes some investigation, research and trial and error to find something actually edible. The only place we can find some half decent steak is from a local market where we can order a tenderloin in now and then.

Have to agree about the Aussie beef, very hit and miss both taste and texture wise, when sampling the imported stuff. New Zealand beef is usually very good but you do pay for what you get.

Honestly have no idea of its origin, but the cheap Wagyu available in Thai supermarkets is excellent value and really quite tasty. If memory serves in Samui we were paying about 220B for an approx 250g steak(Bangrak minimart). Other than that I cant remember ever having Thai steaks that I could chew through.

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This is a country of More Runs....every efin day, I go to the mall and watch their families gorge themselves on KFC and other processed junk, every, efin day.  I have seen the obesity increase since 2016....and they are worried about imported USDA beef?????

 

Go figure.

 

Their stupidity knows no bounds!

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20 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

The only option is for Thais to simply not buy it.

 

That is a difficult option.

On a direct retail level, yes it could be possible, provided that the beef is labeled as sourced from the USA, but that is not where the sales are made.  The USA beef would most likely be used by food processors and restaurant chains who do not have to declare their beef source.  How would  a consumer know the origin of the hamburger that is served up? Some restaurant chains have a clever  advertising approach, emphasizing "Australian" beef when  referring to some item menus, but with no mention on other items. The consumer doesn't know the origin. It could be Brazilian or Argentinian sourced. The Thai people would have to rely on the monopoly of  food processors to declare their  meat origins. I doubt that will happen. It is not done now.

 

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40 minutes ago, Sierra Tango said:

Thai beef certainly takes some investigation, research and trial and error to find something actually edible. The only place we can find some half decent steak is from a local market where we can order a tenderloin in now and then.

Have to agree about the Aussie beef, very hit and miss both taste and texture wise.

When sampling the imported stuff, New Zealand beef is usually very good but you do pay for what you get.

Nonsense

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10 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

That is a difficult option.

On a direct retail level, yes it could be possible, provided that the beef is labeled as sourced from the USA, but that is not where the sales are made.  The USA beef would most likely be used by food processors and restaurant chains who do not have to declare their beef source.  How would  a consumer know the origin of the hamburger that is served up? Some restaurant chains have a clever  advertising approach, emphasizing "Australian" beef when  referring to some item menus, but with no mention on other items. The consumer doesn't know the origin. It could be Brazilian or Argentinian sourced. The Thai people would have to rely on the monopoly of  food processors to declare their  meat origins. I doubt that will happen. It is not done now.

 

 

Excellent points, well made.

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44 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Thailand, like Australia, produces tasteless beef with the tenderness of Doc Marten airware soles, probably bursting with growth hormones, antibiotics and steroids.

Love your generalization and speculation. The packs of Aussie beef Lotus sells are crap for sure but Foodland has some reasonable sirloin and ribeye. Not top shelf IMO but ok. As for HPG's in Australian and US beef it's not universal.

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A trick to tenderising Thai beef from the wet market (the stuff that hasn't been hung). Put it in a zip-lock bag with a bit of pineapple juice and put it in the fridge for 3 days. Take out every day and literally rinse and repeat. Use a clean bag each time. This works. 

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7 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Love your generalization and speculation. The packs of Aussie beef Lotus sells are crap for sure but Foodland has some reasonable sirloin and ribeye. Not top shelf IMO but ok. As for HPG's in Australian and US beef it's not universal.

Yeah my mate is a cattle farmer. A real one. Thousands of acres. No time to feed the cattle hormones or anything else. He breeds them and sells them. Biggest job he has , if he has time ,is pregnancy checking. And also catching young bulls. The ones we eat.

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25 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

the ground beef is ok 

I've had burgers where they try to mix in onions and herbs but it's never very good. Lots of gristle usually is the problem.

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8 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

I do agree with much of what you write, but the differences in  the beef quality  are due to other factors, other than  the feedlot practice of fattening up the cattle.    Australian beef, like Canadian beef and US beef  production also includes the use of feedlots.  It is done to maximize the profit margins. An estimated 80% of Australian beef  finishes off at the feedlot where it can spend  2-4 months being fattened up. The  high fat content Wagyu  variety can spend over a year. Canada beef  has a similar feedlot experience. The US feedlot experience 4-6 months at the feedlot, with an estimated 97%+ off at the feedlot. Yes, it makes a difference, but it isn't the decisive factor.

 

I offer that the Australian  (and Canadian) feedlot diet which emphasizes more grain and roughage results in a leaner higher quality beef results in a better  product. US cattle have a more corn based diet. And it includes the corn stalks and leaves. It isn't high in nutritional value, and results in a  higher fat content. In respect to the use of antibiotics, much of the world  has careful restrictions. China, Brazil, and the United States meat producers rely on the use of antibiotics.  IMO, US  consumers are being poisoned so that they can have cheap meat.

 

The problem  we have in Thailand is that sourcing good quality  beef is difficult. The US has some of the world's finest quality beef that comes from "organic" type farms that  free range raise the cattle and that avoid  indiscriminate   antibiotic use. The thing is that the market for the product is small, and the meat is expensive, such that it won't be seen in Thailand. 

The  restaurants that serve  quality beef in Thailand are few and far between and you pay for it as you say. Most restaurant chains, and I can think of one large one, serves some really poor quality beef. It is gristly, tough and requires "processing" before it can be used. I avoid two chains because my experience since Covid is that the steak will be tough and near inedible. I expect that if US beef  flooded the market, it would be of poor quality too. The US cattle producers  focus on quantity, not quality.

 

 


Some interesting points, and well put.

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1.4 Million beef farming households in Thailand? Total BS (unless they are including every household that has a cow - my neighbours have two, but they are not "farming" cattle. 🙄

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On 4/18/2025 at 11:32 PM, Patong2021 said:

 

I do agree with much of what you write, but the differences in  the beef quality  are also due to factors, in addition to the feedlot practice of fattening up the cattle.  Australian beef, like Canadian beef and US beef  production also includes the use of feedlots.  It is done to maximize the profit margins. An estimated 80% of Australian beef  finishes off at the feedlot where it can spend  2-4 months being fattened up. The  high fat content Wagyu  variety can spend over a year. Canada beef  has a similar feedlot experience. The US feedlot experience 4-6 months at the feedlot, with an estimated 97%+ off at the feedlot. Yes, it makes a difference, but it isn't the decisive factor.

 

I offer that the Australian  (and Canadian) feedlot diet which emphasizes more grain and roughage results in a leaner higher quality beef results in a better  product. US cattle have a more corn based diet. And it includes the corn stalks and leaves. It isn't high in nutritional value, and results in a  higher fat content. In respect to the use of antibiotics, much of the world  has careful restrictions. China, Brazil, and the United States meat producers rely on the use of antibiotics.  IMO, US  consumers are being poisoned so that they can have cheap meat.

 

The problem  we have in Thailand is that sourcing good quality  beef is difficult. The US has some of the world's finest quality beef that comes from "organic" type farms that  free range raise the cattle and that avoid  indiscriminate   antibiotic use. The thing is that the market for the product is small, and the meat is expensive, such that it won't be seen in Thailand. 

The  restaurants that serve  quality beef in Thailand are few and far between and you pay for it as you say. Most restaurant chains, and I can think of one large one, serves some really poor quality beef. It is gristly, tough and requires "processing" before it can be used. I avoid two chains because my experience since Covid is that the steak will be tough and near inedible. I expect that if US beef  flooded the market, it would be of poor quality too. The US cattle producers  focus on quantity, not quality.

 

 

I find the beef from Thai feedlots not too bad either.

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