Trump Blames Zelensky’s Stance for Stalling Ukraine Peace Talks

[thesetat]

1 hour ago, ChicagoExpat said:

suddenly

?? Russia has been taking Ukraine little by little for the past 3 years. He will continue to do so. He has enough manpower and money to use for this effort. 

Whereas Ukraine is already recruiting middle aged men and begging for more men from other countries to come fight for him. 

There will be a turning point soon enough and i doubt it will be favorable to Ukraine. 

[billd766]

12 minutes ago, thesetat said:

That is for martial law... Not for war... 

Says who?

 

That is NOT true in the slightest, and if YOU believe that, then post the links and the proof of tour claim.

[CANSIAM]

5 hours ago, thesetat said:

The negotiations are over. Zelenski had a chance to ally with US by signing a deal with them. They instead turned the meeting into a farce and getting thrown out of the WH. 

Up to now those negotiations have not ceded anything. So why, would the US protect the Ukraine if there is no vested interest or benefit to the US? 

The rare earth minerals that Trump eye-balls are located in Russian controlled Donbas region, is Zelensky the correct fella to discuss Donbas minerals, wonder how that will fall out as a deal........?

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

And Trump will take Greenland while Putin takes Poland. We have seen this deal before.

Almost daily in the crappy mainstream propaganda media

[cjinchiangrai]

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Almost daily in the crappy mainstream propaganda media

Terrible how they are exposing uncomfortable truths that you would prefer to hide.

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, cjinchiangrai said:

I do not trust Putin or Trump. Putin is an evil master criminal and Trump is a greedy self serving toady. 

Do you trust the EU? Do you think the EU wants an end to the war? As for self serving politicians name me one that isn't.  As for Putin he's a dictator.  

[cjinchiangrai]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

Do you trust the EU? Do you think the EU wants an end to the war? As for self serving politicians name me one that isn't.  As for Putin he's a dictator.  

I trust the EU more than Trump and much more than Putin.

 

Surrendering to a murderous dictator is not the proper solution.

 

It is possible to be a dictator and a criminal at the same time.

[dinsdale]

2 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

I trust the EU more than Trump and much more than Putin.

 

Surrendering to a murderous dictator is not the proper solution.

 

It is possible to be a dictator and a criminal at the same time.

You do realise that it's in the EU's interest to prolong the war and their end game is to weaken Putin don't you. They DO NOT care about Ukrainian deaths.

[cjinchiangrai]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

You do realise that it's in the EU's interest to prolong the war and their end game is to weaken Putin don't you. They DO NOT care about Ukrainian deaths.

You realize that it is not in the EUs interest to have a reunified USSR under the control of a sociopath.

[Tug]

That’s our Donnie bringing shame and humiliation to our country……let’s just start a go fund me so putin and his pal trump can get a room.the brave Ukrainian nation deserves better salva Ukraine!

[RayC]

6 hours ago, dinsdale said:

You have failed to mention that everything the EU has done has not been given as with the US but as a loan. 

 

Simply not true:

 

"Since the start of the war, the EU and our Member States have made available close to $155 billion in financial, military, humanitarian, and refugee assistance, of which 65% have been provided as grants or in-kind support and 35% in the form of highly concessional loans" (Source: https://www.eeas.europa.eu/delegations/united-states-america/eu-assistance-ukraine-us-dollars_en?s=253)

[dinsdale]

9 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

Simply not true:

 

"Since the start of the war, the EU and our Member States have made available close to $155 billion in financial, military, humanitarian, and refugee assistance, of which 65% have been provided as grants or in-kind support and 35% in the form of highly concessional loans" (Source: https://www.eeas.europa.eu/delegations/united-states-america/eu-assistance-ukraine-us-dollars_en?s=253)

Do you know what a concessional loan is? 35% of $155 billion is $54.25 billion owed to the EU and that's at zero interest.

[RayC]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Do you know what a concessional loan is? 35% of $155 billion is $54.25 billion owed to the EU and that's at zero interest.

 

Yes, I know what a concessional loan is but, unfortunately, you apparently don't know what grants or in-kind support are. 

 

You stated that " ... EVERYTHING (my caps) the EU has done has not been given as with the US but as a loan". 

 

That is untrue.

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Do you know what a concessional loan is? 35% of $155 billion is $54.25 billion owed to the EU and that's at zero interest.

I think your problem is that you don't understand the meaning of concessional loan and a standard loan. 

[dinsdale]

55 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

Yes, I know what a concessional loan is but, unfortunately, you apparently don't know what grants or in-kind support are. 

 

You stated that " ... EVERYTHING (my caps) the EU has done has not been given as with the US but as a loan". 

 

That is untrue.

A concessional loan is a below market value loan. As I stated previously according to the figures you provided the loan debt is heading toward the $55 billion dollar mark adjusted to a zero interest rate. I am aware that there is talk of liquidating Russian assets seized under the sanction regime that will go toward paying off the debt. Guess some  of the uber rich will pick up some bargains on superyachts etc. Fact remains there's still a debt to be paid off. Trump thinks the same should apply to the US and the US tax payers.

[RayC]

39 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

A concessional loan is a below market value loan. As I stated previously according to the figures you provided the loan debt is heading toward the $55 billion dollar mark adjusted to a zero interest rate. I am aware that there is talk of liquidating Russian assets seized under the sanction regime that will go toward paying off the debt. Guess some  of the uber rich will pick up some bargains on superyachts etc. Fact remains there's still a debt to be paid off. Trump thinks the same should apply to the US and the US tax payers.

 

Whatever the rights or wrongs of Trump's position, the fact remains that the funds given to Ukraine by the EU are not all in the form of loans as you wrote: Indeed, 2/3rds of the money is non-repayable.

[MicroB]

4 hours ago, dinsdale said:

You do realise that it's in the EU's interest to prolong the war and their end game is to weaken Putin don't you. They DO NOT care about Ukrainian deaths.

 

Hogwash.

[bannork]

Russia operated a lightning invasion of the Crimean Peninsula in 2014 following the ousting of pro-Russian Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych.

International condemnation was swift. "The United States rejects Russia's attempted annexation of Crimea and pledges to maintain this policy until Ukraine's territorial integrity is restored," stated then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo during Donald Trump's presidency at the time.

Zelenskyy reminds the US of their own position on Crimea

 

 

[Will B Good]

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