America has emerged....as an international laughingstock

[SMIAI]

It looks very much the case that Putin put one over on Trump and that Trump royally buggered Ukraine. His deals ain't worth beep. Withheld aid and in so allowed Russia to take Avdiivka. Put together a flawed agreement that stopped Ukraine from attacking oil refineries in Russia, but didn't stop Russia from using ballistic missiles to attack cities and kill civilians.

There is no genius, but only a dream that won't ever come true. Neither Russia nor the USA a reliable partner.

[TheAppletons]

1 hour ago, zmisha said:

If you were told that somewhere in Africa a certain country Afrostan was at war with a country African Republic and after 3 years Afrostan began to retreat and compromise, what would you think? You would say - this is without a doubt the result of a change in the strategic balance of power in favor of the African Republic! However, in the case of a proxy war against Russia, for some reason you do not think so and put all the blame on Trump. Or maybe you were deceived when they said that Russia's nuclear weapons are cartoons and can never be used?

 

  Chugging the vodka a bit early today, aren't you?

[Cameroni]

36 minutes ago, JAG said:

If you attempt to remodel global trade in the US favour, whilst devaluing the Dollar, would that not dramatically remove its appeal as the Global reserve currency?

 

Given the amount of global debt held by other countries, wouldn't devaluation, which reduces the value of that debt and reduces the value of the interest payments it provided mean extending or increasing that debt prohibitively expensive.

 

I can't see any "Mar a Lago accord" smoothing over any of that!

 

It is a tough trick to pull off to be sure, but Bessent and Co did author a paper on just how to do that. I think it basically involves getting other nations agreement to the devaluation whilst still retaining the dollar as the reserve currency. That maybe the strategy behind the tariffs.

 

Perhaps worry free access to the market and other trade concessions will entice other nations to make that deal.

 

Let's see.

 

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

41 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

you forgot to mention "Good at bankruptcies as well as being impeached 3 x and convicted on more than 30 felonies"

A thousand $$ to anyone that can ACCURATELY state his 30 felonies. Trump has no idea. Just expired misdemeanors linked to an unknown unspecified crime.

Bragg, James and Merchan will pay the real price for concocting up this bs. James already running scared after getting her chubby digits stuck in the cookie jar. Ouch!

[Cameroni]

38 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

So he got 1-2 million dollars before even starting in the family business, and when he did he got a total of 413 million, Thanks for confirming that.

And to repeat; if this money had been invested in the stock market and left there it would have made more money that what Trump managed through all his scheming.

And a heck of a lot of small contractors would have been better off/still in business.

 

A nice start in business to be sure, 1-2 million dollars. The 413 million were received throught his entire life, including inheritance money. You can't blame a man for getting an inheritance surely.

 

Just to be clear, his net worth now is 5.1 billion USD. That's 5100 million USD.

 

Prettay prettay prettaayyy good going....

[BLMFem]

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

A nice start in business to be sure, 1-2 million dollars. The 413 million were received throught his entire life, including inheritance money. You can't blame a man for getting an inheritance surely.

 

Just to be clear, his net worth now is 5.1 billion USD. That's 5100 million USD.

 

Prettay prettay prettaayyy good going....

Considering he's had his grubby little hands in the world's biggest cookie jar for 4 years and 4 months I'd say that's peanuts.

[mikebike]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You are now. Glad to keep you informed. Now wait a few hours and there will be more tantrums and false claims Trump went bankrupt repeated...and on and on it goes

Checked reporting from 2015/16 on... Almost 100% refers to "businesses Trump has bankrupted". None say Trump was personally bankrupt. Where do you get your odd talking points from anyway? 🤔 

[GroveHillWanderer]

16 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

A thousand $$ to anyone that can ACCURATELY state his 30 felonies. Trump has no idea. Just expired misdemeanors linked to an unknown unspecified crime.

Bragg, James and Merchan will pay the real price for concocting up this bs. James already running scared after getting her chubby digits stuck in the cookie jar. Ouch!

Why do you keep repeating this ridiculous argument? I think I've called you out on it several times already. The felonies (34 of them, actually) were for falsifying business records in the first degree. They were felonies, not misdemeanors and none of them had expired (if they had, the case would have been dismissed on the first day). 

 

The underlying crime, as specified in the AP article below, was a scheme to illegally influence the 2016 election through hush money payments to a porn star. 

 

Guilty: Trump becomes first former US president convicted of felony crimes

 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-trial-deliberations-jury-testimony-verdict-85558c6d08efb434d05b694364470aa0

[Mike_Hunt]

55 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

 the guy from California, Gavin, he's a winner and the GOP has no chance against him, 

 

Say this for Gavin Newsom, he’s a master of misdirection. California is losing jobs—54,800 during the first three months of this year. Valero this month announced plans to close a major refinery, portending gasoline shortages and price spikes. Insurance and electricity rates are soaring.

 

Fifty-four percent of Californians say things in the state are generally going in the wrong direction, up 14 points from when Mr. Newsom became governor in January 2019. But by his telling, everything in the Golden State is going swimmingly, or was until Donald Trump started his tariff barrage.

 

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/california-keeps-declining-and-newsom-tries-to-blame-trump-tariffs-democratic-governance-policy-d3e988c5?mod=hp_opin_pos_1

[BLMFem]

2 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Why do you keep repeating this ridiculous argument? I think I've called you out on it several times already.

 

Because it's all his got, so as he's got nothing what's the poor guy to do? Come clean?

Don't think so.

[Yagoda]

We have electricity. Whose laughing now?

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14655567/power-outage-Spain-Portugal-travel-chaos.html

[SunnyinBangrak]

5 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Why do you keep repeating this ridiculous argument? I think I've called you out on it several times already. The felonies (34 of them, actually) were for falsifying business records in the first degree. They were felonies, not misdemeanors and none of them had expired (if they had, the case would have been dismissed on the first day). 

 

The underlying crime, as specified in the AP article below, was a scheme to illegally influence the 2016 election through hush money payments to a porn star. 

 

Guilty: Trump becomes first former US president convicted of felony crimes

 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-trial-deliberations-jury-testimony-verdict-85558c6d08efb434d05b694364470aa0

Pure misinformation. They were expired misdemeanors. Another sufferer of irrational hatred believing msm bs😅

[3NUMBAS]

http://The master of disaster

[3NUMBAS]

Who’s gonna cleanup,his mess,another decrepit old git?who Should be in a care home

[BLMFem]

4 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

 

Say this for Gavin Newsom, he’s a master of misdirection. California is losing jobs—54,800 during the first three months of this year. Valero this month announced plans to close a major refinery, portending gasoline shortages and price spikes. Insurance and electricity rates are soaring.

 

Fifty-four percent of Californians say things in the state are generally going in the wrong direction, up 14 points from when Mr. Newsom became governor in January 2019. But by his telling, everything in the Golden State is going swimmingly, or was until Donald Trump started his tariff barrage.

 

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/california-keeps-declining-and-newsom-tries-to-blame-trump-tariffs-democratic-governance-policy-d3e988c5?mod=hp_opin_pos_1

Just to be clear; are you linking to the Wall Street Journal, the paper which in an editorial (not an opinion piece like the one you linked to) absolutely s**t all over Trump?

Don't remember? I'll help you:
https://aseannow.com/topic/1358738-wall-street-journal-dunks-on-trump-in-stinging-new-editorial/

 

Oh, and let me fix something for you;

 

"But by his telling, everything in the Golden State is going swimmingly, or was until Donald Trump started his tariff barrage garbage."

 

 

[Mike_Hunt]

6 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Just to be clear; are you linking to the Wall Street Journal, the paper which in an editorial (not an opinion piece like the one you linked to) absolutely s**t all over Trump?

Don't remember? I'll help you:
https://aseannow.com/topic/1358738-wall-street-journal-dunks-on-trump-in-stinging-new-editorial/

 

Oh, and let me fix something for you;

 

"But by his telling, everything in the Golden State is going swimmingly, or was until Donald Trump started his tariff barrage garbage."

 

 

 

I see you didn't read the article.   Figures. 

[BLMFem]

6 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

I see you didn't read the article.   Figures. 

Really? How did you see that?

[Mike_Hunt]

Just now, BLMFem said:

Really? How did you see that?

 

I read your last reply.   It's obvious. 

[BLMFem]

2 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

I read your last reply.   It's obvious. 

I see.

[BLMFem]

26 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

We have electricity. Whose laughing now?

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14655567/power-outage-Spain-Portugal-travel-chaos.html

Just to be clear, when you say "we" just who are you referring to? Cambodians?

[BLMFem]

27 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Pure misinformation. They were expired misdemeanors. Another sufferer of irrational hatred believing msm bs😅

Just as I stated.

[frank83628]

8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Trump is a circus clown. Few expected this level of chaos and such a slide in consumer confidence and poll approval numbers. 

 

Just a few of the insane things this goon has done already. 

 

He turned a legitimate federal employee designation into a loophole. By giving senior officials such as Elon Musk the title “special government employee,” Mr. Trump avoided requirements that they publicly disclose their financial holdings and divest any that present conflicts before taking jobs in the administration.

 

He ended bans that stopped executive branch employees from accepting gifts from lobbyists or seeking lobbying jobs themselves for at least two years.

 

He loosened the enforcement of laws that curb foreign lobbying and bribery.

He dismissed the head of the office that polices conflicts of interest among senior officials.

He jettisoned the head of the office that, among other things, protects whistle-blowers and ensures political neutrality in federal workplaces.

 

He purged nearly 20 nonpartisan inspectors general who were entrusted with rooting out corruption within the government.

 

As Mr. Musk’s political activities started to repel many potential customers of Tesla, his electric vehicle company, Mr. Trump lined Tesla vehicles up on the White House driveway and extolled their benefits. Then Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick urged Fox News viewers to buy Tesla shares.

 

DOGE nearly halved the team at the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration that regulates autonomous vehicles. The agency has been investigating whether Tesla’s self-driving technology played a role in the death of a pedestrian in Arizona.

 

As Trump’s trade war locks the world’s two largest economies on a collision course, America’s unnerved allies and partners are cozying up with China to hedge their bets. It comes as Trump’s trade push upends a decade of American foreign policy — including his own from his first term — toward rallying the rest of the world to join the United States against China. And it threatens to hand Beijing more leverage in any eventual dialogue with the U.S. administration. 

 

Hal Brands, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington, said China will “try to exploit Trump’s abrasive behavior to make inroads with U.S. allies and countries in the Global South.”

 

Some scholars say Beijing is already gaining. “People lost the confidence, or even trust, for the United States, particularly for Donald Trump in the U.S. Not for China,” said Li Cheng, professor of political science at the University of Hong Kong. “So in that regard, China gains in the geopolitical landscape.”

In the latest Ipsos poll, for the first time, more people globally now say China has a positive impact on the world than the United States. The pollster cited the broad backlash to Trump’s tariffs. 

 

With Trump saying that countries are “kissing my ass” to negotiate trade deals on his terms or risk stiff import taxes, Beijing is reaching out to countries far and near. It portrays itself as a stabilizing force and a predictable trading partner, both to cushion the impact from Trump’s tariffs and to forge stronger trade ties outside of the U.S. market.

“America and China are now locked in a fierce contest for global supremacy,” Singaporean Prime Minister Lawrence Wong said in an April 16 speech. “Both powers claim they do not wish to force countries to choose sides. But in reality, each seeks to draw others closer into their respective orbits.”

 

It’s all a sorry and sordid picture, a president who had already set a new standard for egregious and potentially illegal behavior hitting new lows with metronomic regularity.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/27/opinion/trump-crypto-musk-spacex.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

 

 

Fearfulmike007

 

With is mills & boon emotional eassay posts

[frank83628]

Double post

[placeholder]

6 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

At pretty much everything, at life, in real estate, made billions of Dollars, in show business, had a top rated TV show, in politics, became president of the USA, twice.

 

How about you, what have you won in? Maybe list your accomplishments in this thread.

Well, I guess it takes genius to be born into power and wealth. His father was a very successful real estate developer. Trump destroyed that business. He bought the Plaza Hotel for way too much money. In other words he was outnegotiated, and ultimately the  company went into bankruptcy. Same for his casino and airline ventures. Always paying too much. Always being outnegotiated. The only reason he held on to any of his money that bankruptcy laws in NY make it extremely difficult for lenders to recover their money. But NY banks would never lend to him after that. What saved him was the book, which made people believe he was a great dealmaker, and the TV show, which was not his creation.

[RayC]

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

It is a tough trick to pull off to be sure, but Bessent and Co did author a paper on just how to do that. I think it basically involves getting other nations agreement to the devaluation whilst still retaining the dollar as the reserve currency. That maybe the strategy behind the tariffs.

 

Perhaps worry free access to the market and other trade concessions will entice other nations to make that deal.

 

Let's see.

 

 

 

If Trump feels that the US gets a bad deal wet trade, it would have been so much better if he has simply got on the phone to Xi, v.d. Leyden, etc and arranged bi-lateral talks. No one is going to refuse to talk to POTUS. All his current approach has succeed in doing is spooking the markets and alienating the US's allies while making China look not so bad.

 

The Uruguay Round of GATT - which resulted in the formation of the WTO - started in 1986 and took 8 years to conclude. The rules governing world trade have slowly evolved ever since. The US is the world's most powerful nation, however, the idea that the rest of the world will simply tear up the existing rule book, roll over and be bullied into accepting US-centric trade conditions is imo extremely unlikely. Moreover, it is even more unlikely that any wide-ranging agreements could be reached before the end of Trump's term in office.

 

If Trump persists with his bullying techniques, I suspect that the rest of the world will simply reduce their bi-lateral trade with the US as much as possible, accept that their will be an economic hit (while obviously trying to mitigate the effect as much as possible), and just wait until January 2029 when the hope will be that a sense of normality can be restored.

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Trump destroyed that business

 

You mean he created businesses worth 5.1 billion USD..

 

People talk about his business bankrupticies, but I do not see that as an issue, many businessmen fail, but Trump got up and succeeded again with other ventures. It is even more impressive really.

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

You mean he created businesses worth 5.1 billion USD..

 

People talk about his business bankrupticies, but I do not see that as an issue, many businessmen fail, but Trump got up and succeeded again with other ventures. It is even more impressive really.

Do you understand that the  reason he ever got to be big was because of all the money funneled to him by his father? How many people would have the inherited resources to fail time and time again.

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, RayC said:

If Trump feels that the US gets a bad deal wet trade, it would have been so much better if he has simply got on the phone to Xi, v.d. Leyden, etc and arranged bi-lateral talks. No one is going to refuse to talk to POTUS. All his current approach has succeed in doing is spooking the markets and alienating the US's allies while making China look not so bad.

 

He could have done that. But then he would not have had the leverage he now has with the tariffs. Master negotiatior?

 

2 minutes ago, RayC said:

the idea that the rest of the world will simply tear up the existing rule book, roll over and be bullied into accepting US-centric trade conditions is imo extremely unlikely

 

I am not sure. Take China for instance. The tariffs are effectively a trade embargo on China. which China cannot afford. I would suspect most nations when faced with considerable pain will do something to make that pain go away.

 

4 minutes ago, RayC said:

the rest of the world will simply reduce their bi-lateral trade with the US as much as possible

 

I am sure that will happen anyway, but the operative words are "as much as possible". Many companies genuinely depend on the US market. They cannot just stop exporting there.

[Cameroni]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Do you understand that the  reason he ever got to be big was because of all the money funneled to him by his father? How many people would have the inherited resources to fail time and time again.

 

Getting 1 million dollars helped of course, but again he is worth  5100 million now. So there was a bit more to it than getting a hands up I suspect.

 

Sure, he got the 400 plus million during the course of his life later, but well, 5100 million. Come on!

[placeholder]

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

Getting 1 million dollars helped of course, but again he is worth  5100 million now. So there was a bit more to it than getting a hands up I suspect.

 

Sure, he got the 400 plus million during the course of his life later, but well, 5100 million. Come on!

What if he had invested that in index funds? And of course he has massively cashed in on the presidency. And is still cashing in. He's just so sleazy