First Canada, now Australia? Conservatives fear the Trump slump is spreading

[BLMFem]

23 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

The Dems did build a government that we can't afford. 

I see, and despite having a number of GOP administration since WW 2 ended they could do nothing about it. OK then.

[Mike_Hunt]

2 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Really? Which part of what I've written in this thread could be construed as war mongering?

 

Trump expects other counties to spend more on their own defense and you disagree with anything Trump says.  

 

Why do you hate the US taxpayer?

[Mike_Hunt]

Just now, BLMFem said:

I see, and despite having a number of GOP administration since WW 2 ended they could do nothing about it. OK then.

 

The huge drivers of the debt are the social programs.  

[Celsius]

Had big hopes for trump. What a disappointment. I think Whoopi Goldberg would be a better prez

[BLMFem]

7 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

Trump expects other counties to spend more on their own defense and you disagree with anything Trump says.  

 

Why do you hate the US taxpayer?

 

6 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

The huge drivers of the debt are the social programs.  

You don't reply to what I write at all. It's just an incessant whine about how much we hate Trump. Maybe you should go and have a good cry instead.

[BLMFem]

2 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Had big hopes for trump. What a disappointment. I think Whoopi Goldberg would be a better prez

You mean you could actually think of someone who would do a worse job?

[steven100]

Dutton is fine,   and I believe he will win,  Albanese is also ok,  he's a good foreign relations type of guy,  Dutton is a good Australian sovereignty protection guy, he's staunch anti-China and he's a good military hard liner, 

 

he won't take any crap from outsiders if he wins,  especially China ...and Maybe Australia needs that type of person as it moves into the a very hostile and awakening environment. 

 

I said years ago,  and just recently again,  Australia should be very concerned now what with the current geopolitical wars in play.   Australia has to start building it's military capacity to protect it's borders,  it cannot rely on America forever,    while America may be there to help,  it's not a dead certain for sure.  

[Harrisfan]

5 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Dutton is fine,   and I believe he will win,  Albanese is also ok,  he's a good foreign relations type of guy,  Dutton is a good Australian sovereignty protection guy, he's staunch anti-China and he's a good military hard liner, 

 

he won't take any crap from outsiders if he wins,  especially China ...and Maybe Australia needs that type of person as it moves into the a very hostile and awakening environment. 

 

I said years ago,  and just recently again,  Australia should be very concerned now what with the current geopolitical wars in play.   Australia has to start building it's military capacity to protect it's borders,  it cannot rely on America forever,    while America may be there to help,  it's not a dead certain for sure.  

Polls say Dutton gets smashed. Even if wrong he's likely to lose. No personality and not enough good policies.

[steven100]

5 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Polls say Dutton gets smashed. Even if wrong he's likely to lose. No personality and not enough good policies.

aha,  that's interesting ... I haven't been following any of the news or his policies,  Albanese is a softer and possibly more approachable person than Dutton,    but I still say Dutton is good for the border protection, more than Albanese,  but that isn't only what's required obviously.     thanks for that info...     even if Albanese continues,  he's ok for Australia and I hope the Aussies learnt that the revolving door PM's is not in Australia's best interest as they witnessed. 

[scorecard]

53 minutes ago, Screaming said:

Left wing socialist globalist liberalism is a disease and spreads very rapidly in a world that is debauched. Canada has always been a  vessel of England and Australia likewise. This disease originated in the UK which was once a great land of opportunity and self reliance but unfortunately, the evils of liberal thinking has corrupted the very fabric of this once great country. At this point Canada is lost but there is still hope for Australia if its citizens wake up and realize that liberalism is like a cancer, it eats at the very core of its host and in time a person will become a withered, bitter pathetic being.

 

"Left wing socialist globalist liberalism" How's that?

[jayboy]

53 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

It's funny that Trump turned you lefties into a group of war mongers.   The USA can no longer afford to protect the entire Western world. 

 

Tell that to the Brits, Aussies and other soldiers who lost their lives or limbs in Afghanistan supporting America after the USA was attacked on 9/11.

[Lacessit]

53 minutes ago, Screaming said:

Left wing socialist globalist liberalism is a disease and spreads very rapidly in a world that is debauched. Canada has always been a  vessel of England and Australia likewise. This disease originated in the UK which was once a great land of opportunity and self reliance but unfortunately, the evils of liberal thinking has corrupted the very fabric of this once great country. At this point Canada is lost but there is still hope for Australia if its citizens wake up and realize that liberalism is like a cancer, it eats at the very core of its host and in time a person will become a withered, bitter pathetic being.

The medication I paid $100 for in Australia would have cost me $70,000 in America.

 

If anyone is a withered, bitter, pathetic human being, it is a person with right wing conservative ideas, and the empathy of a scorpion.

[Harrisfan]

12 minutes ago, steven100 said:

aha,  that's interesting ... I haven't been following any of the news or his policies,  Albanese is a softer and possibly more approachable person than Dutton,    but I still say Dutton is good for the border protection, more than Albanese,  but that isn't only what's required obviously.     thanks for that info...     even if Albanese continues,  he's ok for Australia and I hope the Aussies learnt that the revolving door PM's is not in Australia's best interest as they witnessed. 

Albo is useless. Complete flog but Dutton is too boring to get elected. They need a new leader.

[Lacessit]

Dutton is as popular as a turd in a punch bowl.

 

He made the mistake of trying to be Trump-like, then reversed course based on polling.

 

Another mistake was parading his son as an example of the home ownership crisis, when Dutton himself had made $30 million trading in properties.

 

Australians are quite good at spotting phonies. A shame Americans can't.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

Which is why the USA has 36T in debt.  

 

I hope you can understand that.

The USA is $36 trillion in debt because Americans are like pigs at a trough.

 

40% obese, 70% overweight. Not hard to connect the dots.

[blaze master]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

We have the means the bases the skills the industry and mandate to protect and seed democracy its in our dna that is until the betrayer in chief aka the felon regained power.

 

What if some countries don't want to accept the seeds you want to sow ? 

 

Is that when you protect them into accepting democracy ? 

[BLMFem]

8 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Australia can learn a lot by Trump.  For the better.

 

How not to become Chinese citizens.

And how not to run casinos.

And how not to be drafted.

And how not to commit crimes because eventually you'll get caught.

And how not to imposed blanket tariffs like a total schmuck because if fracks up the US and world economy.

And how not to.......I could sit here all night.

[still kicking]

1 hour ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

It's funny that Trump turned you lefties into a group of war mongers.   The USA can no longer afford to protect the entire Western world. 

And Australia can't afford to spy for the USA at Pine Gap.

[safarimike11]

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

Yep, currently forecast Dutton will lose. Last time Trump was in power Australia aligned with Trump which hurt economically. Dutton tried playing the tough guy and with trump coming to power again and  turned around with tariffs on Australia really annoyed many Australians, lost money of the stock exchange and Superannuation values being reduced and harmed some aspects of the Australian economy quickly lost favour. We will know by 4th May if he won  / lost.

If I were still there today, I would like to think that I would vote for the Liberal (translation: Conservative) party; however, IMO Peter Dutton was the wrong choice for leader. Watching the news, there is no way he will win.

[ThreeCardMonte]

17 hours ago, Tug said:

You don’t think for a second trump would help protect Australia do you?he seems to be doing his best to undermine Europe and they are much closer.

We certainly did before hence they speak English (sort of) instead of Japanese.

[ThreeCardMonte]

10 hours ago, BLMFem said:

And how not to run casinos.

And how not to be drafted.

And how not to commit crimes because eventually you'll get caught.

And how not to imposed blanket tariffs like a total schmuck because if fracks up the US and world economy.

And how not to.......I could sit here all night.

Trumps great accomplishments override his minor setbacks.  As all highly successful people experience.

 

The temporary setbacks of the market was EXPECTED.  Decades of America taking it up the a— from other countries.

 

Have a look now, it’s coming back, as EXPECTED.

 

His accomplishments in his first 100 days exceeds any other President.  Fact.

 

 

[Tug]

12 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

The huge drivers of the debt are the social programs.  

Some of us expect something in return for our taxes

45 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

We certainly did before hence they speak English (sort of) instead of Japanese.

Donald trump ain’t no FDR he’s more akin to vikum quisling…..

[ThreeCardMonte]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Some of us expect something in return for our taxes

Donald trump ain’t no FDR he’s more akin to vikum quisling…..

“Donald trump ain’t no FDR“

 

Your most thought out post to date 

[Tug]

15 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

“Donald trump ain’t no FDR“

 

Your most thought out post to date 

Mehhh

[Woke to Sounds]

Yawn.

 

The plan is to further reduce Australia's standard of living, a la Canada, UK, etc.

 

There has to be a bad guy and good guy.

[Woke to Sounds]

12 hours ago, BLMFem said:

And how not to run casinos.

And how not to be drafted.

And how not to commit crimes because eventually you'll get caught.

And how not to imposed blanket tariffs like a total schmuck because if fracks up the US and world economy.

And how not to.......I could sit here all night.

 

I see the programming has taken. Well.

 

Trumpinator or some Leftie schvantz, didya peak behind the curtain?

[hotsun]

14 hours ago, Celsius said:

Had big hopes for trump. What a disappointment. I think Whoopi Goldberg would be a better prez

Hes not going to make canada great, thats for sure

[Harrisfan]

13 hours ago, Lacessit said:

The USA is $36 trillion in debt because Americans are like pigs at a trough.

 

40% obese, 70% overweight. Not hard to connect the dots.

They borrowed to fund burgers?

[Hanaguma]

13 hours ago, BLMFem said:

And how not to run casinos.

And how not to be drafted.

And how not to commit crimes because eventually you'll get caught.

And how not to imposed blanket tariffs like a total schmuck because if fracks up the US and world economy.

And how not to.......I could sit here all night.

That is a large herd of dead horses you are flogging there...

 

As for the topic at hand, I can only answer for what happened in Canada. The media really overplayed the so-called "Trump threat". People foolishly fell for it, and forgot the results of the previous 10 years of Liberal mismanagement of the economy.  Now, the Conservatives also screwed the pooch. Their campaign was caught flat footed when the PM was forced to resign.

 

I am curious what the demographic spread of the vote will be in Oz. In Canada, the biggest groups to prop up the Liberals were Boomers, government workers, and the upper middle class. The conservative vote was younger, less affluent, and more male. 

[simple1]

13 hours ago, safarimike11 said:

If I were still there today, I would like to think that I would vote for the Liberal (translation: Conservative) party; however, IMO Peter Dutton was the wrong choice for leader. Watching the news, there is no way he will win.

 

Agree. He reminds me of Tony Abbott who also misread the Australian people