Putin Proposes Renewed Peace Talks with Ukraine Amid International Pressure

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Putin Proposes Renewed Peace Talks with Ukraine Amid International Pressure

 

Russian President Vladimir Putin has made a rare late-night televised appeal from the Kremlin, calling for direct peace talks with Ukraine to begin "without delay, as early as 15 May." In his statement, Putin said, “We seek serious talks... to remove the root causes of the conflict and start moving towards a lasting, strong peace.” His remarks come in the wake of intensified diplomatic activity in Kyiv, where European leaders gathered to urge Moscow to agree to an unconditional 30-day ceasefire.

 

Earlier on Saturday, the leaders of the United Kingdom, France, Germany, and Poland met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv as part of what they described as a “coalition of the willing.” Their coordinated message, delivered after a phone call with U.S. President Donald Trump, included a clear demand for Russia to halt hostilities for one month starting Monday. They warned that Russia would face "massive" sanctions if it failed to comply with the ceasefire appeal.

 

Following that meeting, UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer stated, “All of us here together with the US are calling [Russian President Vladimir] Putin out. If he is serious about peace, then he has a chance to show it.” Zelensky echoed this sentiment, saying, “Thank you all for standing with us. Today we will focus on how to build and guarantee real and lasting security.”

 

In response to the ceasefire demand, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov indicated that Moscow would consider the proposal but emphasized that “trying to pressure us is quite useless.” Hours later, Putin appeared on national television to outline his own peace proposal, suggesting that the talks be held in Istanbul, Turkey. He also announced his intention to discuss the plan with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Sunday.

 

Putin’s address suggested that such talks could lead to new ceasefires and even a broader truce, though he framed them as conditional on sincere engagement from Ukraine. “This would be the first step towards a long-term, lasting peace, rather than a prologue to more armed hostilities after the Ukrainian armed forces get new armaments and personnel, after feverish trench-digging and the establishment of new command posts,” he said. “Who needs peace like that?”

 

He also accused Ukraine of ignoring multiple Russian proposals for ceasefires, including a 30-day suspension of attacks on energy infrastructure, an Easter truce, and a recent halt timed to coincide with World War Two commemorations. “In spite of everything, we are offering the Kyiv authorities to resume the negotiations... resume direct talks, and I stress, without any preconditions,” he said.

 

Ukraine has not yet officially responded to Putin’s proposal. Kyiv has previously contended that Russia continued military operations during earlier declared ceasefires. Moscow has made similar accusations against Ukraine.

 

The last round of direct talks between Russia and Ukraine occurred shortly after the war began over three years ago. Putin’s latest statement signals a potential shift, or at least a tactical move, amid growing global pressure and the threat of further sanctions. Whether this marks a genuine opportunity for diplomacy or a strategic ploy remains to be seen.

 

  Adapted by ASEAN Now from BBC  2025-05-12

 

 

[Jingthing]

Yes indeed, do remove the root cause of the war. Putin. 

[Tug]

Simple trial for putin in the haig get the he!! Out of all of Ukraine pay reparations return stolen children peace achieved.

[connda]

The trope that Russia is on the verge of buckling to EU "pressure" is right up there with all of the tropes about "Putin is dying," "the ruble is rubble," "the Russian economy is trashed," "Russia is losing the 'war'," "Russian missile parts are made out of North Korean washing machines," and "Russia refuses to negotiate."  It's really great propaganda but it's fabricated pablum that is typical of Western anti-Russian propaganda.

Russia laid out the conditions to peace in the region in December 2021, again during the Istanbul Peace Accord in March/April 2022 which were essentially signed and which had the primary concession from Ukraine that Crimea, whose population voted to join the Russian Federation as per UN rules, remained Russian, Donesk would become an autonomous region, and Ukraine would end its anti-Russian attacks on the culture, language, and Russian speaking people in Ukraine.  Then the US sent in Boris Johnson to blow up the deal and it has been "Game On" ever since.

On June 14 2024 Putin gave a speech where the conditions to a full ceasefire and end to the conflict were set out:

Complete withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia regions, within their administrative borders as claimed by Russia.

Ukraine must officially abandon plans to join NATO.

Ukraine must adopt a neutral, non-aligned, and nuclear-free status.

Recognition of Russia’s annexation of the four regions and Crimea as Russian territory.

Lifting of all sanctions imposed on Russia.

Ukraine must commit to demilitarization and denazification

Those same conditions are still on the table, but I doubt Russia is going to stop fighting when they have the momentum in the fight and the leverage to press for their conditions to end the fighting.

The meeting of the EU chihuahaus (Macron, Starmer, Kallas, Mertz, and other EU dogs of war) in Kiev during the Russian Victory Day celebrations isn't pressuring Russia to do anything. Each round of EU sanctions blows-back on the EU which at this point is de-industrializing due to their attempts to economically hurt Russia.  It's almost funny in a sad way to watch the West bare their teeth and bark: "You will do as we say, you will stop all fighting for 30 days so that the Ukraine can re-arm, recover, retrench, and plan for an offensive." The West can roll out guys like Kellogg to tell the world that "Russian is losing the war badly," and it won't make any difference.  Russia has been upfront for over a decade and now they are serious: "Get NATO off of our borders and stop using Ukraine as a proxy to attack Russia."

My guess - The NATO members will continue to huff and puff and scream and make demands.  Russia will remain open to negotiations starting immediately but not tied to a so-called cease-fire which is just the same Western slight-of-hand as Minsk 1 and 2, i.e., fake cease-fires which allowed the West to arm and train Ukraine - I seriously doubt that will happen again. So Russia will just continue to grind on Westward toward the Dnieper River and by next year the conditions for peace will include Ukraine giving up even more territory that it will lose.  Personally I believe the SMO will end with the unconditional surrender of Ukraine to the Russians by next year - or - the West goes crazy and jumps in and starts WWIII which at a minimum will be a three front war including Russia, Iran, and China.  In the meanwhile the EU and UK will continue to devolve into authoritarian states where political parties backed my a majority of citizens will be called "extremist" and "fascist" and banned, as freedom of speech and assembly are also banned "in the name of Democracy and Freedom"  Western Europe is turning into the same monster that was supposedly put down 80 years ago and its eyes are again looking East as it licks it lips and croaks hideously.

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Yes indeed, do remove the root cause of the war. Putin. 

That's not how negotiations work. 

[candide]

What a joke of envoy!

 

Trump envoy relied on Kremlin interpreter in meetings with Putin to end war in Ukraine

Steve Witkoff, who has been tasked with negotiating an end to the war in Ukraine, met with Putin in Moscow for several hours on Feb. 11, on March 13, and in St. Petersburg on April 11, and “used their translators,” one of the Western officials said. “If they speak to each other in Russian, he doesn’t know what they are saying,” the official added, referring to Putin and the interpreters.

Witkoff, a former real estate mogul and cryptocurrency trader, does not speak Russian. By using Kremlin interpreters, he ran the risk that some of the nuance in Putin’s messages was missed and he would not have been able to independently verify what was being said to him, two former American ambassadors said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-envoy-relied-kremlin-interpreter-090040260.html

 

[connda]

2 hours ago, candide said:

What a joke of envoy!

 

Trump envoy relied on Kremlin interpreter in meetings with Putin to end war in Ukraine

Steve Witkoff, who has been tasked with negotiating an end to the war in Ukraine, met with Putin in Moscow for several hours on Feb. 11, on March 13, and in St. Petersburg on April 11, and “used their translators,” one of the Western officials said. “If they speak to each other in Russian, he doesn’t know what they are saying,” the official added, referring to Putin and the interpreters.

Witkoff, a former real estate mogul and cryptocurrency trader, does not speak Russian. By using Kremlin interpreters, he ran the risk that some of the nuance in Putin’s messages was missed and he would not have been able to independently verify what was being said to him, two former American ambassadors said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-envoy-relied-kremlin-interpreter-090040260.html

 

GASP! OMG!

[billd766]

17 minutes ago, connda said:

GASP! OMG!

Common sense 101 says that you take your own translators, otherwise you will only get told what the interpreters have been told to tell you, which may well not be what you need to hear.

[stevenl]

'without preconditions'. Would be good. Earlier russia's preconditions were that Ukraine has to give up all terrain claimed by Russia, which is much more than Russia is occupying atm, no nato membership, no repatriations and zelensky out. 

 

If truly without preconditions that would mean they're feeling pressure.

[Mavideol]

7 hours ago, connda said:

The trope that Russia is on the verge of buckling to EU "pressure" is right up there with all of the tropes about "Putin is dying," "the ruble is rubble," "the Russian economy is trashed," "Russia is losing the 'war'," "Russian missile parts are made out of North Korean washing machines," and "Russia refuses to negotiate."  It's really great propaganda but it's fabricated pablum that is typical of Western anti-Russian propaganda.

Russia laid out the conditions to peace in the region in December 2021, again during the Istanbul Peace Accord in March/April 2022 which were essentially signed and which had the primary concession from Ukraine that Crimea, whose population voted to join the Russian Federation as per UN rules, remained Russian, Donesk would become an autonomous region, and Ukraine would end its anti-Russian attacks on the culture, language, and Russian speaking people in Ukraine.  Then the US sent in Boris Johnson to blow up the deal and it has been "Game On" ever since.

On June 14 2024 Putin gave a speech where the conditions to a full ceasefire and end to the conflict were set out:

Complete withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia regions, within their administrative borders as claimed by Russia.

Ukraine must officially abandon plans to join NATO.

Ukraine must adopt a neutral, non-aligned, and nuclear-free status.

Recognition of Russia’s annexation of the four regions and Crimea as Russian territory.

Lifting of all sanctions imposed on Russia.

Ukraine must commit to demilitarization and denazification

Those same conditions are still on the table, but I doubt Russia is going to stop fighting when they have the momentum in the fight and the leverage to press for their conditions to end the fighting.

The meeting of the EU chihuahaus (Macron, Starmer, Kallas, Mertz, and other EU dogs of war) in Kiev during the Russian Victory Day celebrations isn't pressuring Russia to do anything. Each round of EU sanctions blows-back on the EU which at this point is de-industrializing due to their attempts to economically hurt Russia.  It's almost funny in a sad way to watch the West bare their teeth and bark: "You will do as we say, you will stop all fighting for 30 days so that the Ukraine can re-arm, recover, retrench, and plan for an offensive." The West can roll out guys like Kellogg to tell the world that "Russian is losing the war badly," and it won't make any difference.  Russia has been upfront for over a decade and now they are serious: "Get NATO off of our borders and stop using Ukraine as a proxy to attack Russia."

My guess - The NATO members will continue to huff and puff and scream and make demands.  Russia will remain open to negotiations starting immediately but not tied to a so-called cease-fire which is just the same Western slight-of-hand as Minsk 1 and 2, i.e., fake cease-fires which allowed the West to arm and train Ukraine - I seriously doubt that will happen again. So Russia will just continue to grind on Westward toward the Dnieper River and by next year the conditions for peace will include Ukraine giving up even more territory that it will lose.  Personally I believe the SMO will end with the unconditional surrender of Ukraine to the Russians by next year - or - the West goes crazy and jumps in and starts WWIII which at a minimum will be a three front war including Russia, Iran, and China.  In the meanwhile the EU and UK will continue to devolve into authoritarian states where political parties backed my a majority of citizens will be called "extremist" and "fascist" and banned, as freedom of speech and assembly are also banned "in the name of Democracy and Freedom"  Western Europe is turning into the same monster that was supposedly put down 80 years ago and its eyes are again looking East as it licks it lips and croaks hideously.

by any chance is your name Conda strognoff, putin, lavrov, rasputin, lenine, medved,  or something like that... just asking for a friend

[candide]

1 hour ago, connda said:

GASP! OMG!

Who are the other dumbasses who don't use their own translators? 

[candide]

30 minutes ago, stevenl said:

'without preconditions'. Would be good. Earlier russia's preconditions were that Ukraine has to give up all terrain claimed by Russia, which is much more than Russia is occupying atm, no nato membership, no repatriations and zelensky out. 

 

If truly without preconditions that would mean they're feeling pressure.

Or they may be lying, as usual..

[frank83628]

4 hours ago, candide said:

What a joke of envoy!

 

Trump envoy relied on Kremlin interpreter in meetings with Putin to end war in Ukraine

Steve Witkoff, who has been tasked with negotiating an end to the war in Ukraine, met with Putin in Moscow for several hours on Feb. 11, on March 13, and in St. Petersburg on April 11, and “used their translators,” one of the Western officials said. “If they speak to each other in Russian, he doesn’t know what they are saying,” the official added, referring to Putin and the interpreters.

Witkoff, a former real estate mogul and cryptocurrency trader, does not speak Russian. By using Kremlin interpreters, he ran the risk that some of the nuance in Putin’s messages was missed and he would not have been able to independently verify what was being said to him, two former American ambassadors said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-envoy-relied-kremlin-interpreter-090040260.html

 

 

4 hours ago, candide said:

What a joke of envoy!

 

Trump envoy relied on Kremlin interpreter in meetings with Putin to end war in Ukraine

Steve Witkoff, who has been tasked with negotiating an end to the war in Ukraine, met with Putin in Moscow for several hours on Feb. 11, on March 13, and in St. Petersburg on April 11, and “used their translators,” one of the Western officials said. “If they speak to each other in Russian, he doesn’t know what they are saying,” the official added, referring to Putin and the interpreters.

Witkoff, a former real estate mogul and cryptocurrency trader, does not speak Russian. By using Kremlin interpreters, he ran the risk that some of the nuance in Putin’s messages was missed and he would not have been able to independently verify what was being said to him, two former American ambassadors said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-envoy-relied-kremlin-interpreter-090040260.html

 

And? Unless you are able ton speak all the worlds languages what do you expect to do?

You use a translator.

[candide]

5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

 

And? Unless you are able ton speak all the worlds languages what do you expect to do?

You use a translator.

Wake me up when another envoy uses another translator than the trusted one provided by his government, in particular when dealing with Russia.

[Jingthing]

Putin doesn't want peace.

Putin wants Ukraine.

This is just another round of game playing for propaganda purposes.

[frank83628]

28 minutes ago, candide said:

Wake me up when another envoy uses another translator than the trusted one provided by his government, in particular when dealing with Russia.

So, you really think that anything said using an RU translator will not be then verified numerous times by US translators before anything deal is made and signed.

Why would you say sucha blatantly idiotic think, you know not to be true.

I doubt the yahoo link is even true account. just more MSM trump hating activist BS, as per the norm with everything the media says about Trump & team. 

[candide]

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

So, you really think that anything said using an RU translator will not be then verified numerous times by US translators before anything deal is made and signed.

Why would you say sucha blatantly idiotic think, you know not to be true.

I doubt the yahoo link is even true account. just more MSM trump hating activist BS, as per the norm with everything the media says about Trump & team. 

Where did I write that? Stop putting words in my mouth.

[Seppius]

Putin knows he has lost, and now getting desperate for a cease-fire so he can regroup ,Ukraine can sit this out now as long as it takes

 

F16's doing a brilliant job

[BLMFem]

9 hours ago, connda said:

The trope that Russia is on the verge of buckling to EU "pressure" is right up there with all of the tropes about "Putin is dying," "the ruble is rubble," "the Russian economy is trashed," "Russia is losing the 'war'," "Russian missile parts are made out of North Korean washing machines," and "Russia refuses to negotiate."  It's really great propaganda but it's fabricated pablum that is typical of Western anti-Russian propaganda.

Russia laid out the conditions to peace in the region in December 2021, again during the Istanbul Peace Accord in March/April 2022 which were essentially signed and which had the primary concession from Ukraine that Crimea, whose population voted to join the Russian Federation as per UN rules, remained Russian, Donesk would become an autonomous region, and Ukraine would end its anti-Russian attacks on the culture, language, and Russian speaking people in Ukraine.  Then the US sent in Boris Johnson to blow up the deal and it has been "Game On" ever since.

On June 14 2024 Putin gave a speech where the conditions to a full ceasefire and end to the conflict were set out:

Complete withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia regions, within their administrative borders as claimed by Russia.

Ukraine must officially abandon plans to join NATO.

Ukraine must adopt a neutral, non-aligned, and nuclear-free status.

Recognition of Russia’s annexation of the four regions and Crimea as Russian territory.

Lifting of all sanctions imposed on Russia.

Ukraine must commit to demilitarization and denazification

Those same conditions are still on the table, but I doubt Russia is going to stop fighting when they have the momentum in the fight and the leverage to press for their conditions to end the fighting.

The meeting of the EU chihuahaus (Macron, Starmer, Kallas, Mertz, and other EU dogs of war) in Kiev during the Russian Victory Day celebrations isn't pressuring Russia to do anything. Each round of EU sanctions blows-back on the EU which at this point is de-industrializing due to their attempts to economically hurt Russia.  It's almost funny in a sad way to watch the West bare their teeth and bark: "You will do as we say, you will stop all fighting for 30 days so that the Ukraine can re-arm, recover, retrench, and plan for an offensive." The West can roll out guys like Kellogg to tell the world that "Russian is losing the war badly," and it won't make any difference.  Russia has been upfront for over a decade and now they are serious: "Get NATO off of our borders and stop using Ukraine as a proxy to attack Russia."

My guess - The NATO members will continue to huff and puff and scream and make demands.  Russia will remain open to negotiations starting immediately but not tied to a so-called cease-fire which is just the same Western slight-of-hand as Minsk 1 and 2, i.e., fake cease-fires which allowed the West to arm and train Ukraine - I seriously doubt that will happen again. So Russia will just continue to grind on Westward toward the Dnieper River and by next year the conditions for peace will include Ukraine giving up even more territory that it will lose.  Personally I believe the SMO will end with the unconditional surrender of Ukraine to the Russians by next year - or - the West goes crazy and jumps in and starts WWIII which at a minimum will be a three front war including Russia, Iran, and China.  In the meanwhile the EU and UK will continue to devolve into authoritarian states where political parties backed my a majority of citizens will be called "extremist" and "fascist" and banned, as freedom of speech and assembly are also banned "in the name of Democracy and Freedom"  Western Europe is turning into the same monster that was supposedly put down 80 years ago and its eyes are again looking East as it licks it lips and croaks hideously.

Wow, that's too much kaka for one post. You could at least have spread the manure out a bit, but no.

 

"Western Europe is turning into the same monster that was supposedly put down 80 years ago and its eyes are again looking East as it licks it lips and croaks hideously."

 

Yes, the murderous Westerners currently killing soldiers and civilians, men, women and children in vast numbers while they licks it lips and croaks hideously. Sure, OK!

 

[BLMFem]

9 hours ago, frank83628 said:

That's not how negotiations work. 

Au contraire, buddy. The best preparation for negotiations is to remove the reason for having to negotiate in the first place.

[BLMFem]

1 hour ago, candide said:

Who are the other dumbasses who don't use their own translators? 

I can think of one - the biggest dumb-ass of them all.

[BLMFem]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

 

And? Unless you are able ton speak all the worlds languages what do you expect to do?

You use a translator.

Wow, you really don't get it, do you buddy!😆

[frank83628]

28 minutes ago, candide said:

Where did I write that? Stop putting words in my mouth.

That is exactly what the quote you used implies, and you know that full well.

[dinsdale]

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Yes indeed, do remove the root cause of the war. Putin. 

And what if Putin was replaced by an even more hardliner? What then? 

[dinsdale]

27 minutes ago, Seppius said:

Putin knows he has lost, and now getting desperate for a cease-fire so he can regroup ,Ukraine can sit this out now as long as it takes

 

F16's doing a brilliant job

This is either sarcasm or complete delusion. If it's the latter you have real problems with reality.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

And what if Putin was replaced by an even more hardliner? What then? 

Bait ignored.

[Jingthing]

The ONLY way Putin actually seriously negotiates is if he's FORCED to.

 

My take is that he needs to be forced MUCH HARDER for there to be any hope of that.

 

 

[connda]

A 30 day ceasefire only benefits Ukraine which is why Ukraine and the EU "demands" a 30 day ceasefire.
Basically they don't what negotiations, they want time to rearm and retrench.  Even Polymarket doesn't see a 30 day ceasefire happening.  Negotiations can happen tomorrow or next week.  But that's not what Ukraine and NATO want.  Russia knows this.  Which is why they keeps stating that negotiations can happen immediately.  Ukraine wants to rearm and retrench which is why they will they refuse negotiations and push for a 30 day ceasefire.  Bottom line - neither ceasefire or negotiations will happen anytime soon.

[dinsdale]

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Bait ignored.

Why is it bait? You said remove the problem and the problem is Putin? Someone will replace him. You're just calling my post "bait" because it's something you have no answer to. Awaiting your usual deflection response.

[connda]

40 minutes ago, Seppius said:

Putin knows he has lost, and now getting desperate for a cease-fire so he can regroup ,Ukraine can sit this out now as long as it takes

 

F16's doing a brilliant job

 

12 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

This is either sarcasm or complete delusion. If it's the latter you have real problems with reality.

It's either the epitome of sarcasm or stupidity. Yet from a propaganda standpoint, expect the anti-Russia war-hawks to repeat "Russian is losing and Putin knows Russia has already lost" every chance possible. Gotta convince the low-information clones that Russian missiles made out of North Korean washing machines aren't doing their job.