Is Now the Time to Go All-In on Silver—or Stick with Gold?

[Peterphuket]

8 hours ago, Conan The Barbarian said:

Looking for a Long-Term Investment: Silver or Gold?

Silver is a worthless investment, if you look at its value in recent months you will see that there have been minimal changes, unlike gold, but to invest in it now with its high prices does not seem wise to me either.

[Peterphuket]

5 hours ago, JustinTyme said:

Gold is a solid long term investment, and especially easy in Thailand.

The most highly respected company is Hua Seng Heng.
We bought our physical gold there, because gold from that business is recognized all over the Kingdom, and beyond.
We also have an online gold investment account with them, which is great because you can buy small fractional quantities (1,000 Baht minimum purchase) so very easy to "buy the dips" from home and ladder into a lower cost per Baht Gold.

Investing in Gold is a process, over time, that has historically paid off when given enough time.
 

Maybe I misread but their website mentions a minimum amount of 5 baht, not 1,000 Thb. Minimum purchase.

[RocketDog]

15 hours ago, FlorC said:

Yes in Thailand cash is still possible . In most euro countries maximum 1000 to 3000 euro cash for buying PM's. 😒

Fate!

I'm out to buy today.

Under $3200.

 Yay.

 

Keep on stackin' 

[FlorC]

2 hours ago, RocketDog said:

Fate!

I'm out to buy today.

Under $3200.

 Yay.

 

Keep on stackin' 

Yes gold is being knocked down.

 

I'm hoping Bazel III wil get it up again , about the same time 

Trump's 90 day tariff pauze ends.

 

Basel III - Wikipedia

 

 

[swissie]

Gold and Silver have corrected "nicely". Recent lows must hold, otherwise one can not qualify the recent downturn as a thechnical correction anymore, rather a change of trend. Easily taking both metals down another 10% or more.

 

Silver is special. A store of value as well as an Industrial Metal. Inevitably, one must also keep an eye on what other Industrial Metals are doing. That does not make future price predictions any easier.

 

Silver peaks of the past have always been in connection with "market manipulation" in one form or the other. (Cornering the market).

 

"All-in" on Silver right now? Why not. But one must be aware that one is riding on the back of a Tiger.

 

[swissie]

On 5/14/2025 at 9:55 AM, Unamerican said:

What is this ratio? What are G and S here? 
Thanks! 

G/S = Gold Silver Ratio. OR: How much 1 oz of Gold will buy how many  oz of Silver.

Fluctuates widely. For example:

 

Recent low on Jul 6 2024 was 72. Recent high on Apr 25 2025 was 108. Today it's at 99.

[swissie]

22 hours ago, Peterphuket said:

Silver is a worthless investment, if you look at its value in recent months you will see that there have been minimal changes, unlike gold, but to invest in it now with its high prices does not seem wise to me either.

"Minimal changes"?????

[quake]

Just buy condos , before they are all gone. 

[CanadaSam]

I am hesitating to buy gold right now, hoping that trump gets thrown out of power, or assassinated by one of his maga followers who lost their job, house, and family. 

 

And hoping that will inspire re-confidence in the dollar, and the stock exchanges in merica, dropping gold back down a bit.

 

Crypto is new (for me) and interesting, ethereum seems to be solid, as is xrp for a long term large gain, so I am slowly increasing my investments in them.

[swissie]

2 hours ago, CanadaSam said:

I am hesitating to buy gold right now, hoping that trump gets thrown out of power, or assassinated by one of his maga followers who lost their job, house, and family. 

 

And hoping that will inspire re-confidence in the dollar, and the stock exchanges in merica, dropping gold back down a bit.

 

Crypto is new (for me) and interesting, ethereum seems to be solid, as is xrp for a long term large gain, so I am slowly increasing my investments in them.

Only buy Cryptos if you are sure someone will buy a series of numerical combinations from you at a higher price.

[spidermike007]

General rule of thumb. Never buy near the peak. Having said that silver is still relatively low, compared to gold. That would be my choice. Though we have limited options in Thailand. 

 

In an ideal world I would have one, five and 10 oz silver bars or coins, and I would have the physical metal stored in a private safe facility in Singapore. 

[Colabamumbai]

On 5/14/2025 at 10:28 AM, Conan The Barbarian said:

Looking for a Long-Term Investment: Silver or Gold?

Gold. Silver goes nowhere, silver buyer for 20 years to make. 925 jewelry. An oz. Of gold has gone up 10,000 Bhat since December. 

[Retrodude11]

On 5/14/2025 at 7:49 PM, Dogmatix said:

 

I have gold, silver, bitcoin, etherium, mining stocks in precious metals and uranium and general stocks.  Definitely worth having gold and silver in my opinion but diversify.  Then when one asset class is correcting, you will have another one that is pumping. 

 

I made a fair bit of cash in palladium a few years back when it went higher than gold and platinum but it is finished now as its main use is in catalytic converters which are in decline due to electric vehicles. I still own a small amount of platinum which is facing a similar fate on the catalytic converters but has some other use cases.  

 

Silver is half investment metal and half industrial metal with main industrial use case being solar panels.  However, the solar industry keeps finding ways to use less silver in solar cells.  Every now and again silver has a crazy rally.  Now about $32/oz but it has hit $50 twice - in 1979 and aboout 2007, both for a brief moment.  It is overdue for another of these big rallies.   

 

Central banks made record purchases of gold in 2024 and the Bank for International Settlements BIS made allocated physical gold (identifiable gold bars with serial numbers) a tier 1 asset with effect from July 2015.  The only other tier 1 asset that banks can hold to reach their capital adequacy ratios is cash or government bonds.  Much of he gold traded today is paper gold or unallocated physical gold which doesn't actually exist, as it is a just a ledger entry, not a deliverable.  As distrust for the US and the USD grows, so does the demand for deliverable physical gold.  The US claims 6,000 tonnes of gold reserves but probably has much less, as a full audit has not been done since the 50s and some of the gold is probably fake, like the gold plated tungsten ingots found in the Bank of England, or leased out.  China claims to have only 2,000 tonnes but probably has 20,000 and another 20,000 in private hands which could be confiscated, if needed. Unlike the US Comex futures market and the London Bullion Market Association which mainly do either cash settlement or in the case of the LBMA settle with non-existent unallocated ledger entry gold Shanghai Futures Exchange and the Shanghai Gold Exchange allow only physical delivery.  China and other BRICS see gold as a way to reduce their dependency on the dollar but we will have to wait and see how this process unfolds.  It could be a trade currency partly backed by gold. 

 

Given the unsustainable level of US government debt that can only be  effectively reduced as percentage of  GDP by inflation, it seems likely that the dollar will decline over time.

 

There seem to be a number of factors above that support the idea of having some portion of your assets in gold and silver and gold and silver mining stocks.  

Very well written and plenty to think about. Thanks for taking the tine to inform as I have been tossing up whether to buy more silver Perth Mint coins which I have done very well from. 

[JustinTyme]

On 5/14/2025 at 7:06 PM, Peterphuket said:

Maybe I misread but their website mentions a minimum amount of 5 baht, not 1,000 Thb. Minimum purchase.

My (Thai) wife buys it from them at 1,000 THB all the time.  They even allow orders to be placed below current prices and catch the dips.  Could this be a Thai verses Foreigner thing/  Possibly.  I will leave it to you to pick up a phone and call them.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

General rule of thumb. Never buy near the peak. Having said that silver is still relatively low, compared to gold. That would be my choice. Though we have limited options in Thailand. 

 

In an ideal world I would have one, five and 10 oz silver bars or coins, and I would have the physical metal stored in a private safe facility in Singapore. 

Come the end of the world, good luck with your flight to Singapore.

[Dogmatix]

Holding bullion yourself or in storage is theoretically the safest way to hold it but storage of large quantities at home is not that safe and external safe storage not that cheap.  ETFs are another alternative.  Many people know GLD and SLV traded in NY but not so many people know there is also a gold ETF, also GLD, on the Thai stock market for those who have Thai baht onshore.  The Thai GLD is free of capital gains tax but gains on gold bullion held in Thailand are theoretically taxable. 

 

In North America Sprott in Canada has some offerings of interest and some are available on the Toronto Stock Exchange traded in USD and CAD as well as in NY.  Sprott's PHYS is a gold alternative to the US GLD that claims a closer tie to the underlying gold held as collateral and charges just a smidgeon more than GLD.  I like Sprott's SLVR ETF because it combines a holding in the silver ETF as well as silver mining stocks and is not too heavy n the largest silver mining stock, First Majestic, which has a lot of problems in my opinion.  For gold mining stocks GDX provides exposure to the largest ones and GDXJ to the juniors.  A favorite gold ETF of mine is GOAU which is an EFT of gold royalty companies.  These companies buy royalty streams from mining companies on sure fire projects which is a great way for the miners to secure upfront finance to complete mining projects and for the royalties to get income from gold mining without the costs and hassles of mining themselves.  Gold royalties are a great bridge between own bullion that doesn't pay any dividends and gold mining stocks, as they pay dividends and get more of the upside when gold goes up but not as much of the downside as the miners.  GOAU owns all the large gold royalties companies and some smaller ones, diversifying the risk. 

 

One reason that non-Americans concerned about estate planning for their families might chose to prefer Canadian or other non-American listings is Federal Estate Tax.  While Americans and US residents get an exemption of $13 million from this iniquitous tax, non-residents only get an exemption of $60,000 and a blanket rate is charged on all US situs assets above that, even US listed stocks held in a brokerage account outside the US.  When a non-US client dies, the broker will freeze all their US assets until the executor can convince them that US estate tax has been paid and this may take a long time. Brokers don't tell non-US clients about this because they don't want to scare them away from investing the largest stock markets in the world.  

 

The only proven way to avoid US Federal Estate Tax is by having an account in the name of a company.    BTW the UK does the same thing by charging IHT on UK stocks held non-residents.  

 

Bitcoin and other crypto ETFs abound for those who want to diversify into crypto but don't want the hassle of dealing with crypto exchanges and hardware wallets.  The biggest and most liquid are of course in the US but there are also plenty of crypto ETFs in Canada, Australia, Hong Kong and Europe that avoid the issue of US estate tax.  My favorites are the Hong Kong listed ETFs.  For those who want listed ETFs or ETPs in alt coins other than Etherium which has large ETFs in the US, Europe is the place to go.  Swiss company 21 Shares has issued ETPs on Solana and a number of other alt coins listed in Swiss and other Euro exchanges and so has Van Eck. 

 

Good luck and DYODD (do your own due diligence).

[Lacessit]

IMO silver has already had its surge, when it rose by 30% about a year ago. It's been marking time since then.

[harryviking]

On 5/14/2025 at 8:13 AM, pacovl46 said:

Gold is a long term investment and in my opinion much safer than anything else, apart from real estate maybe. 

Real estate?? That depends on who is in charge of the country and what kind of disasters they create! Gold? Does not CARE who is in charge! Answere: GOLD!! 😂 Bought mine years ago so I smile!! 🤣

[Ron Micheli]

any place in Pattaya to buy silver bars?

[Stocky]

Silver isn't particularly rare, there's a lot of silver still in the ground.

[Gottfrid]

On 5/14/2025 at 1:45 PM, FlorC said:

For years they have been saying that silver at 90 + G/S ratio is a good investment.

It's coiling up for a big jump, I read it nearly every day.

We're still waiting ....and waiting.

So, for years you have been waiting for a jump you read about nearly every day? Eeeeh? OK!

[FlorC]

46 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

So, for years you have been waiting for a jump you read about nearly every day? Eeeeh? OK!

Yes , I get news letters by mail about gold and silver and then there are the

"people in the know"  on sites like : King World News

[pacovl46]

3 hours ago, harryviking said:

Real estate?? That depends on who is in charge of the country and what kind of disasters they create! Gold? Does not CARE who is in charge! Answere: GOLD!! 😂 Bought mine years ago so I smile!! 🤣

I'm from Germany and it doesn't matter who's running the country here. You can buy real estate with no worries whatsoever. 

[mania]

On 5/14/2025 at 10:28 AM, Conan The Barbarian said:

Looking for a Long-Term Investment: Silver or Gold?

Lots of folks say this or that about silver & gold here are the realities....Posted in images below

 

Both are good IMHO & I have been involved with both for a long time.

 

Back around 2011 I did exceptionally well with the G/S ratio . At the time I was swapping a truckload of silver I bought at $9/oz

when G/S ratio was 75/1 & was swapping into gold at 35-40/1

 

It was like buying $1500 gold ounces for $315

 

So aside from buying to sit & wait...also  watch the G/S ratio & use that to grow your stacks. The old rule of thumb use to be G/S ratio above 55/1 buy silver below buy gold

 

Of course in recent year that has changed....a lot! But I would say personally Silver is very under valued or manipulated at the moment. That won't last & silver will likely take off this fall.

 

This is just my opinion & worth exactly what you paid for it 😉 

[alfredwilliams]

As a an investor in silver, remember how much heavier than the equivalent worth of gold is, if you leave the country for example, silver should be ok if you count on keeping it twenty years imho