MalcolmB Posted Wednesday at 08:09 AM Posted Wednesday at 08:09 AM 2 hours ago, dinsdale said: Oh dear! Time to panic. XEC will simply become the dominant sub-variant of Omicron which in turn will be replaced by another sub-variant. This is the evolutionary process of Omicron. "The good news is that so far there is no evidence that XEC causes different symptoms or more severe disease than other recent strains—although a COVID infection is always a concern for certain people, including those who are older or immunocompromised." https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/3-things-to-know-about-xec-the-latest-covid-strain So just another non severe variant for the vast majority of humans. As for the transmissibility this is how it becomes the dominant variant. No need to panic. it is just an airborne thing. Masks reduce it by 95%. It isn’t too hard for you to wear a mask is it? Or are you a snowflake. 1 1
plahgat Posted Wednesday at 08:43 AM Posted Wednesday at 08:43 AM 21 hours ago, jaywalker2 said: No, I meant your immune system doesn't seem up to par and that's exacerbating the illness. My last vaccination(7th Pfizer/Biontech) was a year before my last trip Dec 2023, I should have had an 8th vaccination just before this trip Dec 2024, but didn´t bother as I thought I had enough protection already! 😏 I then read somewhere that the vax by Pfizer/Biontech lasts for 6 months only, so you must update with new vaccinations every 6 months to have a good protection. The trip before last 2023 I had my vax just a month before I went to Thailand, and although I did get Covid it only lasted for 4-5 days! So, I do think that because I didn´t get an updated vax for about one year, that made me much sicker when I caught again Covid this time! 🤒 Next year I will be sure to get a vaccination before I go back to Thailand! 1 1
kwilco Posted Wednesday at 10:00 AM Posted Wednesday at 10:00 AM On 5/20/2025 at 2:24 AM, NICKMONDO1 said: I really wish they would just shut up talking about this ridiculous subject. just forget it and get on with life for goodness sake. dont they think we have suffered enough from all this ridiculous bs? I bet the ones who died wished they'd taken you advice. 2
Popular Post frank83628 Posted Wednesday at 10:51 AM Popular Post Posted Wednesday at 10:51 AM 8 hours ago, Patong2021 said: It has everything to do with "it". It is wonderful that you can think for yourself, whatever that means. The reality though is that you rely on unsubstantiated claims and misinformation that circulates on the internet, hosted by a various entities that range form crackpots, to those with a vested financial interest in promoting "alternative" healthcare, to people and groups who wish to sow discord and civil unrest. You dismiss people who disagree with you as "sheeple" and regurgitate the nonsensical claim that "main stream media" is an enemy entity conspiring against you. You are unable to comprehend the clinical trials and the health data. If you had above average intelligence, and some formal education in the sciences, you would be able to understand the documentation. Instead, as a coping mechanism to a problem that you find overwhelming, you fall back on a simplistic explanations of conspiracies. You embrace the pseudo science because it does not require thinking. It is presented in easy to digest format easily distributed on social media, with phrases and soundbites that the simple minded can follow. There weren't clinical trials, the vaccines didn't stop the spread of covid and the lab leak theory is the most likely cause, as confirmed by FBI, CIA, its only FaucI that is still denying. All things denied by those receiving millions from Pfizer and other pharmam corps. Your whole comment is striaght from the pharma paid MSM script its weak, gullible people like you that allowed the covid scam to go on for so long by believing every single thing the media told you, its people like you that turned on your neighbours, doctors, nurses, teachers, and anyone else that didn't want to be forced into a jab 1 1 1
Patong2021 Posted Wednesday at 01:51 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:51 PM 3 hours ago, frank83628 said: There weren't clinical trials, the vaccines didn't stop the spread of covid and the lab leak theory is the most likely cause, as confirmed by FBI, CIA, its only FaucI that is still denying. All things denied by those receiving millions from Pfizer and other pharmam corps. Your whole comment is striaght from the pharma paid MSM script its weak, gullible people like you that allowed the covid scam to go on for so long by believing every single thing the media told you, its people like you that turned on your neighbours, doctors, nurses, teachers, and anyone else that didn't want to be forced into a jab You have just demonstrated the wilful intent of spreading false and/or misleading misinformation. You say there were no clinical trials: Aside from the fact that the mRNA design and format had been in use for cancer therapies a decade prior, the clinical trials for the Comirnaty vaccine from Pfizer began in April 2020. The results were were overwhelmingly positive as of November 2020. Additional trials followed. Because the results were so good, the approval to use was granted in December 2020, with a rollout in mid 2021. The timeline of the clinical trials is well documented. The Spikevax vaccine from Moderna had a similar timeline with multiple clinical trials starting in March 2020. The results were so good that approval was granted in December 2020. Rollout was in mid 2021. The vaccines were the reason why people stopped dying in the tens of thousands and why the economy was able to recover so quickly. Vaccinated people were less likely to be hospitalized and were able to recover faster than the unvaccinated. The healthcare systems were collapsing until the vaccine was introduced. And again you offer the canard of this being a MSM conspiracy. It is tiresome. You make the claim, but are unable to offer a factual basis to support the claim. All you have are Russian propaganda disinformation claims. You are like an AI derived troll agent. You have the same talking points every time you post. 1 1
Patong2021 Posted Wednesday at 02:08 PM Posted Wednesday at 02:08 PM 11 hours ago, dinsdale said: There are studies and figures from sources funded by big pharma and thsn there independent scorces not funded by biv pharma. You only believe what the narrative allows. Those of us with critical thinkinv skills look beyond the narrative pushed by MSM. None of which you write is accurate. Who or what is this "big pharma"? A pharmaceutical drug maker is obligated by law to submit clinical information to support the use of a new product. The sponsor is obligated to pay the costs of the trials. Trials are conducted under an ethical requirements framework. Surely, you are not espousing the socialist concept of the state sponsoring and paying for everything? You do not have critical thinking skills because you do not understand how drugs are developed and approved. Nor do you understand how clinical trials are designed, carried out, analyzed and regulated. And again this is most likely reflection of limited education and/or intelligence level. It is time the ignorant and malicious people who make false claims and who spread false information with a malicious intent were held accountable. Ideally, I would like people like you to be identified and then forced to take responsibility for your false claims, sued into financial oblivion. 1 1
atpeace Posted Wednesday at 02:25 PM Posted Wednesday at 02:25 PM 21 minutes ago, Patong2021 said: The vaccines were the reason why people stopped dying in the tens of thousands and why the economy was able to recover so quickly. Vaccinated people were less likely to be hospitalized and were able to recover faster than the unvaccinated. The healthcare systems were collapsing until the vaccine was introduced. THe vaccines probably prevented millions of deaths but not 100% sure. We could have just locked down all old unhealthy people, diabetics, and obese while the rest of society lived a semi normal existance. Childhood obesity skyrocketed during the lockdown and hasn't stopped climbing. Lockdowns were terrible and weren't needed for this virus. BTW, the global economy didn't recover quickly. Are you from the USA? Most the world has struggled since the Covid. 1 1
Popular Post ianwheldale Posted yesterday at 01:52 AM Popular Post Posted yesterday at 01:52 AM On 5/20/2025 at 7:27 PM, Patong2021 said: Sure. And one can surmise that you are an elderly western male of lower income, limited education and at best average intelligence, but most likely, below average. You people crease me up laughing. Not that it's any of your business, I just turned 70 so you got one thing right. I have enough money to live until I am 100 if I never have a further penny income. I have an honours degree in Chemical Engineering from 1977 when a degree was actually worth something, and the last time I had an IQ test it was 145. I can therefore surmise that you are a person with sheep like tendencies who believes everything they read and hear in the MSM. Perhaps if you widen your intellectual horizons you might lead a better and more free life just like I do in this wonderful country 2 1 2
kwilco Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 20 hours ago, frank83628 said: There weren't clinical trials, the vaccines didn't stop the spread of covid and the lab leak theory is the most likely cause, as confirmed by FBI, CIA, its only FaucI that is still denying. All things denied by those receiving millions from Pfizer and other pharmam corps. Your whole comment is striaght from the pharma paid MSM script its weak, gullible people like you that allowed the covid scam to go on for so long by believing every single thing the media told you, its people like you that turned on your neighbours, doctors, nurses, teachers, and anyone else that didn't want to be forced into a jab you need to read bad science by Ben Goldacre before you comment.
Popular Post johng Posted 15 hours ago Popular Post Posted 15 hours ago 21 hours ago, Patong2021 said: The vaccines were the reason why people stopped dying in the tens of thousands and why the economy was able to recover so quickly. Vaccinated people were less likely to be hospitalized and were able to recover faster than the unvaccinated. The healthcare systems were collapsing until the vaccine was introduced. All rubbish and now apart from turning on friends and neighbors who didn't fall for the syop you want them sued to financial oblivion...a very disturbed mindset..not to mention arrogant calling people with questions “lower income, limited education and at best average intelligence, but most likely, below average“ 2 1
GoodieAfterDark Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago On 5/21/2025 at 7:25 AM, atpeace said: THe vaccines probably prevented millions of deaths but not 100% sure. We could have just locked down all old unhealthy people, diabetics, and obese while the rest of society lived a semi normal existance. Childhood obesity skyrocketed during the lockdown and hasn't stopped climbing. Lockdowns were terrible and weren't needed for this virus. BTW, the global economy didn't recover quickly. Are you from the USA? Most the world has struggled since the Covid. Are you serious? The world economy was destroyed by a non existing virus. You should see the number of small business that are gone since the mysterious virus appeared in the news. It is not getting any better. We used to have many stores like Tuesday Morning, Pier One, Joan's Fabrics, Macy's, Kohl's that are gone in my area. 1 1
dinsdale Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago On 5/21/2025 at 9:08 PM, Patong2021 said: Who or what is this "big pharma"? 1 1
dinsdale Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago On 5/21/2025 at 9:25 PM, atpeace said: THe vaccines probably prevented millions of deaths but not 100% sure. According to computer models. I wonder who financed this research and modeling? 1 1
frank83628 Posted 2 minutes ago Posted 2 minutes ago 3 hours ago, dinsdale said: According to computer models. I wonder who financed this research and modeling? Those same models that said mortality rate was 3.4%..
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