Life has no meaning part 2

[fredwiggy]

Just now, gargamon said:

When you die it's game over. No next life. You're worm food and that's it. But you believe what you to to get you through the day.

That's your belief, as it is others, and most of us here believe otherwise. When we die, we will all see the truth, and some will not be prepared for that truth.

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

I truly do not believe religion changes anything, humans nature are good and bad, and we just find enough reasons to justify cruelty and crimes to comfort ourself. 

 

Even religion justifies gruesome actions. 
 

. 
 

 

Yes, some use it as an excuse to hurt and maim others, twisting it to their own narrative,which is the opposite of what believing is supposed to do.

[dinsdale]

Alas there is no God so just be kind and considerate to your fellow human beings and try to make the best of your very short time on this planet. 

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, Hummin said:

Not only the emotions, more the negativity in total, and it prevents people to actually post things that matters, especially about Asia and sharing daily life which was why we came here in the first place.

 

NR 1 topic politics and news

Nr 2 Trolling themes

 

There isn't that much to talk about with daily life. So same topics get rehashed.

 

News stories are also a part of the forum. 

 

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, gargamon said:

When you die it's game over. No next life. You're worm food and that's it. But you believe what you to to get you through the day.

 

I'm not bragging that I understand physics. It's way over my head. 

But there is a theory of Quantum Immortality in physics which postulates that we can never truly die. 

 

 

[Hummin]

11 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Yes, some use it as an excuse to hurt and maim others, twisting it to their own narrative,which is the opposite of what believing is supposed to do.

Religion is just advanced tribe mentality giving purpose to stay together against your enemies, with benefits and a reward at the end. 
 

Religion gives purpose in life and death, and make people and societies to pull in the same direction. That’s why Religion is more unifying than politics and royals when it really matters. 
 

Now we had it to good to long and become to lazy and comfortable, and there is no real challenges for most, yet. But when bad times comes, things changes rapidly back to basics and survival kicks in, We after all animals

 

 

 

 

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Religion is just advanced tribe mentality giving purpose to stay together against your enemies, with benefits and a reward at the end. 
 

Religion gives purpose in life and death, and make people and societies to pull in the same direction. That’s why Religion is more unifying than politics and royals.

 

 

 

 

Religions are also people getting together with the same belief system, fellowship which makes that belief easier. They are necessary to some but personal belief is what matters, as no one can save you from yourself.

[Hummin]

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Religions are also people getting together with the same belief system, fellowship which makes that belief easier. They are necessary to some but personal belief is what matters, as no one can save you from yourself.

Personal beliefs, and find your unique self, are just an bi effect of a wealthy society without real challenges and life and death scenarios. We have lost the reality completely, very few in the western world know real life, and how to survive on limited resources. 

[Felt 35]

Viktor Frankl, an Austrian neurologist and psychiatrist, is known for his unique approach to psychology, which he developed through his gruesome experiences as a prisoner in Nazi concentration camps during World War II. His most famous work, *Man's Search for Meaning*, explores how human survival is closely linked to the ability to find meaning in life's challenges.

 

Frankl's philosophy, known as logotherapy, is based on the idea that life has a meaning regardless of the circumstances we face.

 

Frankl's philosophy can be summarized in three central principles:

Freedom to choose: Humans always have the ability to choose how they respond to situations, even in the most desperate circumstances.
Meaning of life: Each individual has their own unique meaning of life, which can be discovered through experiences, relationships, and inner values.
Living for something: To achieve a sense of meaning, individuals must live for something bigger than themselves, whether it is a cause, another person, or an ideal.

 

These principles are of great relevance in today's society, where many people experience stress and uncertainty. 

 

[Tarteso]

Paradoxically, when one reads Nietzsche, Schopenhauer or Camus, (In my case in the University).. Philosophers who deal with the absurdity of life, questions existentialism or pessimism… understands that life has meaning.

[FriscoKid]

43 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I’m aware of the OP, and his negative character, but still negative emotions is abused, and seems whatever someone post there is some fw who just gives negative emotions because of previous history. 
 

That’s spineless and cowardly 

Oh-ho, u tink 2 mutt na u. It's just a meaningless chat forum FFS. None of it really matters. No see-liat na.
 

 

[gargamon]

13 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Religions are also people getting together with the same belief system, fellowship which makes that belief easier. They are necessary to some but personal belief is what matters, as no one can save you from yourself.

Yes, let's all get together. Worked well in the Crusades, Jihad, etc...

[fredwiggy]

Just now, gargamon said:

Yes, let's all get together. Worked well in the Crusades, Jihad, etc...

And in everyday life apart from the radicals.

[gargamon]

23 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

I'm not bragging that I understand physics. It's way over my head. 

But there is a theory of Quantum Immortality in physics which postulates that we can never truly die. 

 

 

 

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

And in everyday life apart from the radicals.

 

are you aware of your own radical views?  We all got some, 
 

 

[fredwiggy]

Just now, Hummin said:

 

are you aware of your own radical views?  We all got some, 
 

 

I just like seeing things as they are without making opinions.

[oxo1947]

Man's Search for Meaning   Viktor Frankl

Frankle who developed logotherapy -book was printed in 1946, but still seems to be at the forefront whenever there are discussions in searching for a meaning in life.

Its small & in 2 parts first his experience of years in concentration camp watching friends (and all his family ) die. He wrote the first part hiding the pages on his  observations on why some people just give up and die --others continue day after day with the hardships.

Its difficult to condense all what he explains in that small book thats still being printed but to me one sentence does seem to encapsulate it.

 

“Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: 

the last of the human freedoms—

to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way.”

 

I have it as an e-book if anyone wants it DM me---- (its an easy read ---not a deep  weighty Tomb)

 

Or on a lighter note Monty Pythons answer to it all was ---While the song Look on the brighter side of life was being playing  the background was-:

 

Try to be nice to people, 

avoid eating fat, read a good book every now and then, 

get some walking in, and try and live together in peace and harmony with people of all creeds and nations.

 

[gargamon]

7 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I just like seeing things as they are without making opinions.

And you don't realize that the way you see things is just your opinion?

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, gargamon said:

And you don't realize that the way you see things is just your opinion?

No, it's reality.

[SAFETY FIRST]

7 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Life has no meaning

So what do we do

My life has a meaning, I'm here to help the poor young Thai woman. 

 

No time for religion, I'm too busy, I regularly see these poor Thai women, I have lots to give them. 

 

[Hummin]

29 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

No, it's reality.

Every man's or woman's reality is only their illusion based on experiences, heritage, teached and learned truths. 

 

Nothing else, but with a indoctrinated system, we can be more alike if we choose or forced to say, mean and believe the same things. It all comes es down to tribal culture and who you want to belong to.

 

Without culture, we have no meaning and we have no tribe.

 

For some it is motorbike, sports, religion, politics, bar mongering, or  all all combined in different mixes, but to be a member of a tribe, you need to choose one major field to succeed and have some kind of  meaning.

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Every man's or woman's reality is only their illusion based on experiences, heritage, teached and learned truths. 

 

Nothing else, but with a indoctrinated system, we can be more alike if we choose or forced to say, mean and believe the same things. It all comes es down to tribal culture and who you want to belong to.

 

Without culture, we have no meaning and we have no tribe.

Reality to me is what's actually happening. We are here for a few reasons, the most important is to believe so we can have a new life after death. Whether we live alone on a deserted island or in a big city surrounded by millions, it's all personal.

[fredwiggy]

18 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

My life has a meaning, I'm here to help the poor young Thai woman. 

 

No time for religion, I'm too busy, I regularly see these poor Thai women, I have lots to give them. 

 

Yes, they enjoy that cash.

[cdemundo]

7 hours ago, save the frogs said:

interesting take by Nixon.

 

 

I had an acquaintance  who lived in Beverly Hills, she told me that her husband built up a small dry cleaning business.

Then he sold it for a million dollars, she said "That is when our troubles began".

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Reality to me is what's actually happening. We are here for a few reasons, the most important is to believe so we can have a new life after death. Whether we live alone on a deserted island or in a big city surrounded by millions, it's all personal.

Do you ever think of those who have no choices, and also do all the dirty work for those with choices? 

 

What ersonal purpose and reality do they live in? 

 

The reality of children gets illnesses, bombed and terrified even killed. 

 

To many people and animals suffering all over the world to be a meaning behind it. There is no meaning in suffering, not even for you. There is comforts in beliefs, but a deeper meaning? I doubt it

[SAFETY FIRST]

8 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

27 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

My life has a meaning, I'm here to help the poor young Thai woman. 

No time for religion, I'm too busy, I regularly see these poor Thai women, I have lots to give them. 

Yes, they enjoy that cash

Yes, Freddy, I agree.

 

I've worked hard over the years.

Now I've got too much cash. 

 

I'm happy to share with these beautiful young women. 

 

I've actually offered you money in the past, I wanted to send you some cash for you to enjoy yourself. I was worried about you, spending so much of your time on the keyboard.

 

[fredwiggy]

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Do you ever think of those who have no choices, and also do all the dirty work for those with choices? 

 

What ersonal purpose and reality do they live in? 

 

The reality of children gets illnesses, bombed and terrified even killed. 

 

To many people and animals suffering all over the world to be a meaning behind it. There is no meaning in suffering, not even for you. There is comforts in beliefs, but a deeper meaning? I doubt it

This is just a temporary thing, as no one lives much past 100 anyway, so being prepared no matter when it's your time is what matters. Everyone has a meaning but we don't fully understand it now. Comparing this to forever ? Suffering now eventually ends. Forever doesn't.

[cdemundo]

The cartoonist R. Crumb had a character named Mr. Natural who was intuitive and wise.

He was known for the following exchange:

 

Random person: "What does it all mean Mr. Natural?"

Mr. Natural:          " Don't mean sh$t."

 

Brief and to the point.

[worgeordie]

Must have missed Part 1 , what was that all about , better than part 2 ?

will there be a part 3 ? 

 

regards Worgeordie

[fredwiggy]

8 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Yes, Freddy, I agree.

 

I've worked hard over the years.

Now I've got too much cash. 

 

I'm happy to share with these beautiful young women. 

 

I've actually offered you money in the past, I wanted to send you some cash for you to enjoy yourself. I was worried about you, spending so much of your time on the keyboard.

 

 

8 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Yes, Freddy, I agree.

 

I've worked hard over the years.

Now I've got too much cash. 

 

I'm happy to share with these beautiful young women. 

 

I've actually offered you money in the past, I wanted to send you some cash for you to enjoy yourself. I was worried about you, spending so much of your time on the keyboard.

 

You didn't offer me any money, and thinking I need it? Assuming doesn't work, as no one here knows anything about anyone else's life unless they actually live with them. You only see what you want to see. That I'm always signed in has you think I spend an inordinate amount of time here. I'm watching TV with my daughter now, as I do much of the time, unless I'm outside doing yard work, visiting my girlfriend, going shopping or any other number of things. I don't look to see how much time others spend here as it means nothing. You could be here a lot longer than I, or just sleeping, handing out cash to Thai girls or ladyboys, or playing golf with Malcolm or anyone else here. I don't assume.