Will my son be fined?

[brewsterbudgen]

My 10-year-old son (UK passport holder) was born in Thailand and has lived here all his life.  He has an annual Extension as my dependent.  He has never done a 90-day report and this has never been an issue when getting a new extension each year.

 

I want to switch his reason for staying from my dependent to his own Education extension (he goes to a Thai school), and in order to prevent any potential issues, I think it would be better for him start doing 90-day reports (Rayong Immigration).  If apply for him online, I expect it will be rejected, as it's his first ever report.  Not a problem, I'll take him to Immigration to do it in person.  But will "he" be fined for not having done one before; or as he is a child, will the fine be waived?

[BritManToo]

7 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I'll take him to Immigration to do it in person.  But will "he" be fined for not having done one before; or as he is a child, will the fine be waived?

Maximum fine 2,000bht ........ is it really that important to you?

[terryq]

Believe children up to the age of 15 cannot be fined by immigration for failure of 90 day reporting.

 

 

[brewsterbudgen]

13 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Maximum fine 2,000bht ........ is it really that important to you?

Not at all for me, although it's a big chunk of his pocket money!!  I'm just enquiring whether children can be fined for not doing 90-day reports.

[DrJack54]

21 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

But will "he" be fined for not having done one before; or as he is a child, will the fine be waived?

Won't be fined. 

Here is info from Samut Prakan immigration office. 

 

"Q: What age should my kids start doing 90 day reporting?

ANSWER: If your children live with you and you already do 90 Day reporting yourself, then there is no need for your children to do so too. However, by the time they reach the age of 15, they should start doing 90 Day Reporting themselves. If you child is over 15, there could be a fine of 2,000 Baht"

 

Quote from this. 

http://www.samutprakanimmigration.go.th/frequently-asked-questions/ 

[brewsterbudgen]

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Won't be fined. 

Here is info from Samut Prakan immigration office. 

"

Q: What age should my kids start doing 90 day reporting?

ANSWER: If your children live with you and you already do 90 Day reporting yourself, then there is no need for your children to do so too. However, by the time they reach the age of 15, they should start doing 90 Day Reporting themselves. If you child is over 15, there could be a fine of 2,000 Baht. 

 

Quote from this. 

http://www.samutprakanimmigration.go.th/frequently-asked-questions/ 

That's really helpful thanks.   Hopefully Rayong have the same view!

[DrJack54]

Just now, brewsterbudgen said:

Hopefully Rayong have the same view!

They will

[FritsSikkink]

23 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Not at all for me, although it's a big chunk of his pocket money!!  I'm just enquiring whether children can be fined for not doing 90-day reports.

Why should he pay, if you fail to do something?

[petedk]

47 minutes ago, terryq said:

Believe children up to the age of 15 cannot be fined by immigration for failure of 90 day reporting.

 

 

 

Wrong!  My Chinese student age 8 was fined for not doing 90 day report and also fined 20,000 baht for visa overstay.

 

Edit: After reading one other comment here, it seems that he was tricked into paying. His sister age 15 was also fine 2000 for not doing a 90 report. She didn't do a TM30 either, but I can't remember if she was fined for that.

[Hamus Yaigh]

28 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Why should he pay, if you fail to do something?

I read it as a snarky reply to a less than helpful first answer from @BritManToo

[Hamus Yaigh]

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

My 10-year-old son (UK passport holder) was born in Thailand and has lived here all his life.

Unless I missed it, you don't say who the mother is? Presumably British mother also? Therefore above answers make sense. If Thai mother I don't understand.

[DrJack54]

5 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

 Presumably British mother also?

Mother is not Thai. 

[IvorBiggun2]

Why hasn't the OP obtained dual nationality for his son? Then there's no requirement to do 90 day reports.

[DrJack54]

8 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Why hasn't the OP obtained dual nationality for his son?

Snip from OP in unrelated thread... 

"  No new TM30 was required by Rayong when my wife returned from abroad last year."

 

She ain't Thai

[connda]

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[connda]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Maximum fine 2,000bht ........ is it really that important to you?

 

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Not at all for me, although it's a big chunk of his pocket money!!  I'm just enquiring whether children can be fined for not doing 90-day reports.

You're his father.  You'd make him pay the fine out of his allowance.  That's harsh.  I wouldn't want you to be my dad. 

[daveAustin]

^^ Yeah, cringed at that, too. Maybe dark humor.

 

Guessing foreign parents would need 'residency' to garner citizenship to Thailand-born foreigners?

[oldcpu]

5 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Why hasn't the OP obtained dual nationality for his son? Then there's no requirement to do 90 day reports.

 

One thought I had here, is Thailand has a military draft system.  So if his son obtains dual nationality, where one of the son's citizenships is Thai, he will be subject to the Thai military draft at a certain age.  18 ???   This is true even if he no longer lives in Thailand, ... for regardless where he lives in the world, he as a Thai citizen will be subject to Thai draft. 

 

Now depending on some circumstance, he may be exempt the Thai draft, but such depends on some specifics that may or may not be not relevant to his son's case (when he comes of draft age).

 

Don't get me wrong.  I volunteered !! for the Canadian military at age-18 and spent 13+ years in the military.  I have good things to say about the Canadian military and I learned a massive amount from that experience, and i have lot to be grateful for that experience.  But I volunteered for that.

 

A military draft (where one has not volunteered) is a different kettle of fish.

 

So I would recommend the OP think twice before obtaining Thai citizenship for his son (to avoid 90-day reports), even if his son qualifies.

[DrJack54]

37 minutes ago, oldcpu said:

So I would recommend the OP think twice before obtaining Thai citizenship for his son (to avoid 90-day reports), even if his son qualifies.

My understanding neither parent is Thai. @brewsterbudgen could clarify. 

[newbee2022]

On 5/29/2025 at 8:49 AM, brewsterbudgen said:

My 10-year-old son (UK passport holder) was born in Thailand and has lived here all his life.  He has an annual Extension as my dependent.  He has never done a 90-day report and this has never been an issue when getting a new extension each year.

 

I want to switch his reason for staying from my dependent to his own Education extension (he goes to a Thai school), and in order to prevent any potential issues, I think it would be better for him start doing 90-day reports (Rayong Immigration).  If apply for him online, I expect it will be rejected, as it's his first ever report.  Not a problem, I'll take him to Immigration to do it in person.  But will "he" be fined for not having done one before; or as he is a child, will the fine be waived?

Talk to immigration will be the best option.

They will decide how's going on. 👍

[DrJack54]

9 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Talk to immigration will be the best option.

They will decide how's going on. 👍

The OP already stated that he is going to Rayong immigration. 

He is looking for a heads up on what to expect. 

[brewsterbudgen]

23 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Why hasn't the OP obtained dual nationality for his son? Then there's no requirement to do 90 day reports.

He's not eligible.  (Thanks @DrJack54)

[norsurin]

On 5/29/2025 at 3:55 AM, terryq said:

Believe children up to the age of 15 cannot be fined by immigration for failure of 90 day reporting.

 

 

Same about overstay.

[DrJack54]

8 minutes ago, norsurin said:

Same about overstay.

That's true however always best to have a valid permission of stay. 

If not can make school enrollment etc problematic. 

[brewsterbudgen]

10 minutes ago, norsurin said:

Same about overstay.

 

I have been told (on another Forum) that 90-day reports are treated differently to overstaying and kids can be fined.  Hence, my query here as I thought it unlikely, as do most of those who have commented.  I'll find out in a month or so!

[DrJack54]

1 minute ago, brewsterbudgen said:

  I'll find out in a month or so!

Please report back. 

[LES 78]

Why hasn't he a thai passport my stepdaughter born in Bangkok has both a UK and thai passport 

[Liquorice]

50 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

I have been told (on another Forum) that 90-day reports are treated differently to overstaying and kids can be fined.  Hence, my query here as I thought it unlikely, as do most of those who have commented.  I'll find out in a month or so!

According to the experience I had with a friend and his young son, Immigration informed us children are subject to exactly the same requirements as adults, the exception being they cannot be fined under the age of 15 for failure to submit 90 day reports, TM30, and overstay, although in the case of overstay they would receive an overstay stamp in their passport.

 

That was at Amnat Chareon Immigration.

[ujayujay]

On 5/29/2025 at 8:55 AM, terryq said:

Believe children up to the age of 15 cannot be fined by immigration for failure of 90 day reporting.

 

 

...but their legal representatives/parents are responsible and have to pay the fines until their children reach adulthood!

[Liquorice]

18 minutes ago, ujayujay said:

...but their legal representatives/parents are responsible and have to pay the fines until their children reach adulthood!

False.