Weathering the Climate Debate: Meet the Young Meteorologist Challenging the Hysteria

[impulse]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nah you’re just making stuff up to feed your need to be aggrieved.

 

That's lefties.  I'm perfectly happy to be happy.

 

[connda]

2 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

CC is a scam.

Here's my favorite CC scam.

Legislate the end of the use of so-called fossil fuels like natural gas and nuclear energy.  Only allow hydroelectric, wind, and solar.  Cut down massive acreage of forest land (Forests = natural carbon capture - CO₂ --> Starches and O₂) and install solar panels.  Then fund scientific endeavors to spray sun dimming particulate into the atmosphere in order to "cool the Earth."  

Now freaking think about that for a moment?  

[Patong2021]

1 hour ago, GreasyFingers said:

Since YOU have the years of field experience and research why don't you give us the real facts that prove him wrong.

 

I do not describe myself as an expert and have not shared my position on that matter. I am not "proving him wrong". Rather, I am pointing out that he has neither the full education, nor field experience that a qualified meteorologist has. You like him because the narrative supports your own personal bias.

Who would you rather see for prostate cancer, an experienced urologist with years of treating the disease, or a person freshly graduated out of medical school, without any  clinical experience and without advanced training in the subject? Using your logic, because they are both doctors, you would receive equivalent care from either one of them. 

[impulse]

6 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Who would you rather see for prostate cancer, an experienced urologist with years of treating the disease, or a person freshly graduated out of medical school, without any  clinical experience and without advanced training in the subject?

 

Which one has the bonier fingers?

 

[proton]

Naomi was the first anti hysteria whipped up by silly Greta

 

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

He is neither qualified, nor experienced enough to offer expert analysis.

Unlike our greatest climate expert Greta?

[Photoguy21]

The climate debate is totally out of control. Why would civilisations actually believe they are gods and can control the climate? Yes it is getting ever so slightly warmer and will continue to do so as the orbit of the Earth around the sun is getting smaller. People believing they can control the climate are delusional, King Canute tried it with the sea and it didn't end well for him.

[GreasyFingers]

5 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

I do not describe myself as an expert and have not shared my position on that matter. I am not "proving him wrong". Rather, I am pointing out that he has neither the full education, nor field experience that a qualified meteorologist has. You like him because the narrative supports your own personal bias.

Who would you rather see for prostate cancer, an experienced urologist with years of treating the disease, or a person freshly graduated out of medical school, without any  clinical experience and without advanced training in the subject? Using your logic, because they are both doctors, you would receive equivalent care from either one of them. 

Well I have 75 years of field experience and know the CCs are wrong. Nothing has changed materially in that time.

You are using an old tactic of not arguing the topic but bring in a totally different topic. I have no problem if you are a sycophant that needs to be told what to think but please stay on topic.

[gamb00ler]

8 hours ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

He's been fact-checked and found to have been making misleading statements:

 

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.34QL9NW

Anyone with a smidgen of training in science would never make the claim Martz made by comparing only two dates from different years.  He made a mistake that only an absolute beginner would make.  He needs a least a decade of experience before his opinion has much value.  It is hard to believe that this type of mistake is simply a one off lapse.

[gamb00ler]

9 hours ago, GreasyFingers said:

He should have millions and millions of followers.

Why?  He's just a younger and more handsome poster boy with very little education and experience.  Of course the geriatric GOP deniers will be fawning over him.

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

13 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Anyone with a smidgen of training in science would never make the claim Martz made by comparing only two dates from different years.  He made a mistake that only an absolute beginner would make.  He needs a least a decade of experience before his opinion has much value.  It is hard to believe that this type of mistake is simply a one off lapse.

 

He's making political statements, not scientific ones.

[blaze master]

9 hours ago, impulse said:

 

It's real.  The climate has been changing for billions of years, and it will continue to change, even after the zombie apocalypse and when there's no industrial activity at all.

 

The scam is taking money from some and handing it over to others.

 

 

Speaking of. Last night's zombie apocalypse dream was off the hook. This no weed thing is bringing me movie star dreams every night.

 

I did survive. 

[blaze master]

7 hours ago, connda said:

Here's my favorite CC scam.

Legislate the end of the use of so-called fossil fuels like natural gas and nuclear energy.  Only allow hydroelectric, wind, and solar.  Cut down massive acreage of forest land (Forests = natural carbon capture - CO₂ --> Starches and O₂) and install solar panels.  Then fund scientific endeavors to spray sun dimming particulate into the atmosphere in order to "cool the Earth."  

Now freaking think about that for a moment?  

 

This should help.

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fmbZwxEnAFc&pp=ygURbGFuZG1hbiB3aW5kbWlsbHM%3D

[Yellowtail]

30 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Anyone with a smidgen of training in science would never make the claim Martz made by comparing only two dates from different years.  He made a mistake that only an absolute beginner would make.  He needs a least a decade of experience before his opinion has much value.  It is hard to believe that this type of mistake is simply a one off lapse.

Anyone with a smidgen of training in science would never say the science is settled...

[Yellowtail]

6 hours ago, proton said:

Naomi was the first anti hysteria whipped up by silly Greta

 

 

 

[GreasyFingers]

26 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Why?  He's just a younger and more handsome poster boy with very little education and experience.  Of course the geriatric GOP deniers will be fawning over him.

It is only the sycophants that accept the CC training. Maybe you could get out and experience the what has happened if you are not geriatric, you will lean a lot about nature. 

[Yellowtail]

[GanDoonToonPet]

10 hours ago, impulse said:

 

It's real.  The climate has been changing for billions of years, and it will continue to change, even after the zombie apocalypse and when there's no industrial activity at all.

 

The scam is taking money from some and handing it over to others.

 

 

I've always driven my car at different speeds so I'll drive around everywhere at 200 miles an hour...

[gamb00ler]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

When was the last time anyone successfully told China what to do?  The answer will put your view in perspective.

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

When was the last time anyone successfully told China what to do?  The answer will put your view in perspective.

Anyone with a smidgen of training in science would never say the science is settled...

[Patong2021]

3 hours ago, GreasyFingers said:

Well I have 75 years of field experience and know the CCs are wrong. Nothing has changed materially in that time.

You are using an old tactic of not arguing the topic but bring in a totally different topic. I have no problem if you are a sycophant that needs to be told what to think but please stay on topic.

The topic was the qualification of a recent graduate of a lower tier educational facility with no field experience and without advanced training, to act as an expert on climate change. I do not believe he is qualified. You do.

[Patong2021]

7 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

The climate debate is totally out of control. Why would civilisations actually believe they are gods and can control the climate? Yes it is getting ever so slightly warmer and will continue to do so as the orbit of the Earth around the sun is getting smaller. People believing they can control the climate are delusional, King Canute tried it with the sea and it didn't end well for him.

 

Good to know that we have nothing to worry about from China, Russia and India's belching smokestack activities that raise carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide  levels. No worries then. Perhaps, the USA  and Europe could bring back more coal fired  energy production too.

[JackGats]

14 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Good to know that we have nothing to worry about from China, Russia and India's belching smokestack activities that raise carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide  levels. No worries then. Perhaps, the USA  and Europe could bring back more coal fired  energy production too.

Exactly for that reason: the billions who matter (Chinese, Indians, ...) don't give a rat's ass about climate change (never mind whether it's real or not). There's nothing more pathetic (and pretentious) than puny 80 millions Germans "saving the climate" single-handed, ie driving their own people into poverty while the billions don't care and will do nothing.

[papa al]

17 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

He is neither qualified, nor experienced enough to offer expert analysis. At best, he can read the weather on radio.

He is a graduate of Millersville. It is not known for its R&D or  as a center of excellence for meteorology. 

Once he has completed  advanced education and training and had a few years of field experience and research under his belt, he can offer a credible opinion.

You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

/Zimmerman.

[papa al]

6 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Anyone with a smidgen of training in science would never say the science is settled...

Right.

By definition science theories are susceptible to new evidence.

[Yellowtail]

8 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

The topic was the qualification of a recent graduate of a lower tier educational facility with no field experience and without advanced training, to act as an expert on climate change. I do not believe he is qualified. You do.

Exactly. Only qualified leftists with "advanced training" are allowed to speak on climate change. 

[Yellowtail]

Well, I see the left are continuing to try to destroy Musk and Tesla by forcing them to remove 64 Superchargers from the NJ Turnpike. Apparently, the left's seething hate for dissenters outweighs their concern for environment. 

 

 Tesla is forced to remove 64 Superchargers on NJ Turnpike, Musk claims 'corruption' | Electrek

[gamb00ler]

11 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

 

another deranged alumni from the University of Memes&YouTubes.

[gamb00ler]

17 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

The climate debate is totally out of control. Why would civilisations actually believe they are gods and can control the climate? Yes it is getting ever so slightly warmer and will continue to do so as the orbit of the Earth around the sun is getting smaller. People believing they can control the climate are delusional, King Canute tried it with the sea and it didn't end well for him.

LOL... a post so disconnected from reality.  Perhaps you would find more a compatible 

environment on a board discussing fantasies.

 

Scientists are not proposing to attempt to control the climate.  They are advising that we should control our impact on the climate.

 

The most laughable claim is that Earth's orbital distance from the sun is decreasing.  The facts are that Earth's distance from the sun is gradually increasing.  The sun is gradually losing mass so its gravitational hold on the Earth is declining.  @Photoguy21, Shirley you've heard of Einstein's most famous equation E=mc².  The sun is radiating a huge amount of E which leads to a reduction in m.

[Woke to Sounds]

21 hours ago, impulse said:

Here's one of my favorites.  From WaPo, no less:

 

I see WaPo is pushing the dinosaurs myth.

 

Always good to get a psyop in, even edgewise.