CallumWK Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, frank83628 said: You're American, you should know they receive lifetime security. I'm not American, and neither am I Russian like you, but my point is that Fauci got death threats, relating to his previous work for the government. So one must be a pretty low life president to remove his security detail .
RubenRemus Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 4 hours ago, impulse said: More lefty tears. Gonna be a rough 11.5 years... 3.5 Trump and 8 JD... Sad. It's not a team sport you know. This is governance, not dunking a basketball. Grow up. 1
frank83628 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 9 minutes ago, CallumWK said: I'm not American, and neither am I Russian like you, but my point is that Fauci got death threats, relating to his previous work for the government. So one must be a pretty low life president to remove his security detail . As mass murderer getting death threats... oh poor fauci. He retired, so a private citizen and multi millionaire, he can afford his own 1
xylophone Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, CallumWK said: Trump said covid was a hoax and didn't exist Well that's the sort of thing this dumbo would say and saying that brought about a delay in treatment. There was a very good article on the origins of the Covid virus which I posted some while ago, and the virus had been traced back to bats in China and in countries such as Laos, however here is the latest I can find....... The latest presentation revealed that an analysis of the genomes of more than 50 new coronaviruses collected between 2004 and 2021 showed nothing implicated the lab. And samples from the Wuhan market showed an intermingling of SARS-CoV-2, raccoon dog and human DNAs which points to an animal source for the infection. As more evidence is found, we’ll know what happened. Future pandemic prevention and responses may depend on it. https://www.medicaldiscoverynews.com/podcast/episode/covid-origins
BLMFem Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 3 hours ago, frank83628 said: No body is above the law, remember that democrat mantra..... sum num nah Go away, Dmitry. 1
BLMFem Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago I really hope they didn't "recover" a laptop or we'll never hear the end of it.... 1
Eric Loh Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 38 minutes ago, frank83628 said: As mass murderer getting death threats... oh poor fauci. He retired, so a private citizen and multi millionaire, he can afford his own Red states had higher COVID infection rates and deaths compared to blue states. They implemented fewer political decision to mitigate the pandemic, lower or no vaccination and most of the folks were old and obese. Not mass murder but mass suicide and obediently listen to their dear leader crap. 1
stevenl Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said: So many fake news consumers suffer with irrational hatred after swallowing all the hateful bs by said msm outlets that he is in real danger - as the multiple assassination attempts and incitement to assassinate him by lefty wingnuts including former FBI director Comey. You know this, don't you😅 No assassination attempts after the end of his first term, you're referring to the time he was a presidential candidate. So if trump eas entitled to security protection, why wasn't fauci? Many threats were made. 1 1
frank83628 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 16 minutes ago, stevenl said: No assassination attempts after the end of his first term, you're referring to the time he was a presidential candidate. So if trump eas entitled to security protection, why wasn't fauci? Many threats were made. Because ex presidents get life time security, Fauci was never a President. Where are these 'many threats' you say were made? Is there proof that they were any more than online attacks? The FBI would have got involved had anything been serious or credible. 1
xylophone Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, xylophone said: Well that's the sort of thing this dumbo would say and saying that brought about a delay in treatment. There was a very good article on the origins of the Covid virus which I posted some while ago, and the virus had been traced back to bats in China and in countries such as Laos, however here is the latest I can find....... The latest presentation revealed that an analysis of the genomes of more than 50 new coronaviruses collected between 2004 and 2021 showed nothing implicated the lab. And samples from the Wuhan market showed an intermingling of SARS-CoV-2, raccoon dog and human DNAs which points to an animal source for the infection. As more evidence is found, we’ll know what happened. Future pandemic prevention and responses may depend on it. https://www.medicaldiscoverynews.com/podcast/episode/covid-origins Just to add to my post above...... Global study debunks ‘lab leak’ theory, finds Covid-19 virus didn’t originate in Wuhan Genetic analysis traces origins of coronavirus to bat populations in Laos and southwest China years before pandemic emerged A landmark international study has offered compelling evidence that the coronavirus that caused the Covid-19 pandemic did not originate in Wuhan, China, challenging US President Donald Trump’s laboratory leak theory. The study, published in the peer-reviewed journal Cell on May 7, was led by the University of Edinburgh and involved researchers from 20 institutions across the US, Europe, and Asia, including China. The team analysed 167 bat coronavirus genomes and traced the origins of the virus that causes Covid-19 to bat populations in northern Laos and southwest China’s Yunnan province, where its most recent ancestor circulated five to seven years before the pandemic emerged.
impulse Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, Eric Loh said: Red states had higher COVID infection rates and deaths compared to blue states. They implemented fewer political decision to mitigate the pandemic, lower or no vaccination and most of the folks were old and obese. Not mass murder but mass suicide and obediently listen to their dear leader crap. Interestingly, some of the wingnuts slicing and dicing the VAERS data related to the vaccine batches are claiming that the hottest batches (those with the highest rates of adverse reactions) were shipped to the Red States. Interesting times for data wonks... I make no claim about the veracity of the analysis. I'm waiting for the new head of HHS to have a closer look. 1 1
stevenl Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, frank83628 said: Because ex presidents get life time security, Fauci was never a President. So this earlier reason you gave eas not the reason then? "Trump removed his goverment security, as he retired, he is wealthy enought to get his own if he wishes." Being a bit flexible with your reasoning now.
cdemundo Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Meh. From the OP: "Whether the content will offer critical insights or turn out to be inconsequential remains to be seen."
dinsdale Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago I sense from some of the unhinged above posts some people are concerned that their beliefs, shaped by Fauci and MSM, in which they believe 100% are staring to think they're wrong and the "conspiracy nutjob tinfoil hat wearing loons" are indeed correct and have been for years. The truth WILL come out. Indeed much of it is already out. 1
frank83628 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, stevenl said: So this earlier reason you gave eas not the reason then? "Trump removed his goverment security, as he retired, he is wealthy enought to get his own if he wishes." Being a bit flexible with your reasoning now. WTF are you on about? Ex presidents get life time security, it went down to 10 yrs but obama reinstated the life time rule. Fauci was nevet a president, so there is no need for him to receive state paid sectrity once retired. he is a normal citizen. He was still getting his security paid until trup stopped it
Eric Loh Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 12 minutes ago, dinsdale said: I sense from some of the unhinged above posts some people are concerned that their beliefs, shaped by Fauci and MSM, in which they believe 100% are staring to think they're wrong and the "conspiracy nutjob tinfoil hat wearing loons" are indeed correct and have been for years. The truth WILL come out. Indeed much of it is already out. I agree with you that there are those whose beliefs were aligned with evidence-based practices. Factors that inluenced their beliefs are based on their access to reliable information, trust in institutions, individual risk perceptions. Others embraced more conspiractory theories influenced by their mistrust in the institutions and authority and also the deluge of non scientific misinformation from right-leaning media. 1 1
Eric Loh Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 13 minutes ago, frank83628 said: WTF are you on about? Ex presidents get life time security, it went down to 10 yrs but obama reinstated the life time rule. Fauci was nevet a president, so there is no need for him to receive state paid sectrity once retired. he is a normal citizen. He was still getting his security paid until trup stopped it You don't think that federal protection for former staff members are determined by the level of threats they face?
dinsdale Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: I agree with you that there are those whose beliefs were aligned with evidence-based practices. Factors that inluenced their beliefs are based on their access to reliable information, trust in institutions, individual risk perceptions. Others embraced more conspiractory theories influenced by their mistrust in the institutions and authority and also the deluge of non scientific misinformation from right-leaning media. There is zero evidence, I repeat zero evidence of an animal reservoir hence zero evidence of zoonotic transfer. This is not a conspiracy or non-scientific misinformation. It's what science hasn't found. Evidence of zoonotic transfer. 1
stevenl Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 4 minutes ago, dinsdale said: There is zero evidence, I repeat zero evidence of an animal reservoir hence zero evidence of zoonotic transfer. This is not a conspiracy or non-scientific misinformation. It's what science hasn't found. Evidence of zoonotic transfer. Both theories are plausible. No idea why some keep saying that the lab leak theory was banned. It never was, has always been an option. Tying fauci to the lab leak, as has been claimed, is different though. Not one shred of evidence has been provided.
BLMFem Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, cdemundo said: Meh. From the OP: "Whether the content will offer critical insights or turn out to be inconsequential remains to be seen." Nothingburger coming up. It's like the GOP hearings on Biden and laptops and Benghazi etc. All fart and no poop. Pathetic. 1 1
BLMFem Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, stevenl said: So this earlier reason you gave eas not the reason then? "Trump removed his goverment security, as he retired, he is wealthy enought to get his own if he wishes." Being a bit flexible with your reasoning now. If you're impressed with his flexibility on reasoning you should have a look at his moral flexibility. A contortionist, our Dmirty is! 1 1
Eric Loh Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 12 minutes ago, dinsdale said: There is zero evidence, I repeat zero evidence of an animal reservoir hence zero evidence of zoonotic transfer. This is not a conspiracy or non-scientific misinformation. It's what science hasn't found. Evidence of zoonotic transfer. I was refering to the general perception of covid and its infuences on both sides. If you refering to zoonotic connection, there are key gaps to confirmed the bridge specie. However the zoonotic spillover via wildlife is strongly supported by genetic ties to bat viruses, market-linked outbreaks and historical precedents (SARs). I agree that the questions remained.
dinsdale Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: I was refering to the general perception of covid and its infuences on both sides. If you refering to zoonotic connection, there are key gaps to confirmed the bridge specie. However the zoonotic spillover via wildlife is strongly supported by genetic ties to bat viruses, market-linked outbreaks and historical precedents (SARs). I agree that the questions remained. Of course there's links to bat viruses. That's what was being used with gain of function technology using humanised mice in the Wuhan Lab. 1
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 16 hours ago, newbee2022 said: I don't believe anything what comes from "Free Bull<deleted>e International" in these 4 years to come. There's few people on this Earth that I'd be LESS inclined to trust/believe than Joe Rogan (being popular doesn't mean you're right) and Kash Patel: Rogan: "Rogan has been criticized for promoting conspiracy theories, COVID-19 misinformation, and for hosting guests who spread misinformation and pseudoscience." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Rogan Patel: "After Trump left office in January 2021, Patel leveraged his association with Trump to promote several business ventures and made recurring appearances on several podcasts. In April 2022, he was named to the board of Trump Media & Technology Group. ... He founded The Kash Foundation, a charity to help participants in the January 6 United States Capitol attack pay legal costs. Patel has promoted several conspiracy theories about the deep state, false claims of fraud in the 2020 presidential election, QAnon, COVID-19 vaccines, and the January 6 Capitol attack." In March 2023, a report compiled by Democrats on the House Judiciary Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government detailed the testimony of two former FBI special agents, who said they had received financial support from Patel for promoting misinformation about the January 6 Capitol attack"... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kash_Patel
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Trump’s FBI Pick Exposed for Deranged Views on Covid-19 Kash Patel may have some of the most deranged views on Covid in Trump’s next Cabinet. December 4, 2024 "Kash Patel, Trump’s pick for FBI director, has a fake Covid-19 vaccine “detox” supplement side hustle. According to a report from NBC News Wednesday, Patel has helped push “Warrior Essentials,” a right-wing faux “wellness” company that sells three different types of supplements claiming to “undo the damage from the spike protein” (essentially the Covid vaccine). ... Patel is a loyal MAGA disciple who wants to dismantle the very agency he is set to head. It only makes sense that he’s doing weird supplement grifting too—after all, he’s learned from one of the best. https://newrepublic.com/post/189016/trump-fbi-pick-kash-patel-covid-views-supplement Kash Patel claims ‘breakthrough’ in Fauci COVID origins probe ... At the same time, Patel cautioned Fauci’s critics from expecting too much. “We just had a great breakthrough this week on Fauci,” Patel told podcaster Joe Rogan in an episode of “The Joe Rogan Experience” released Friday, explaining the FBI had recovered phones used by Fauci early in the pandemic. “Everybody listening to us shouldn’t jump to the conclusion [that] everything’s in there,” he added. “Maybe it’s deleted, maybe it’s not, but at least we found it, and at least now we can tell people that we have been looking because it is of public importance.” https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5337460-fauci-fbi-investigation-breakthrough-patel/
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