Is it possible to rehabilitate a bargirl back into polite society?

[NanLaew]

9 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Women mostly behave the same way when presented with the same opportunities.

 

Men mostly behave the same way when presented with the same opportunities.

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

When you sleep with hordes of women, it affects you on a deep level. They are not the same as normal men at all.

 

Yeah, no reason it shouldn't work both ways.

If you spend many years in the bar scene, can you go back to a domestic married life? 

 

[bkk6060]

50 %.

Get them out of the sex tourist area.

But, I know another guy who moved her to a western country and she met other Thai girls then fleeced him.

Another. who moved away and she got a job at a western Thai massage shop coming home with 500 bucks in tips from the hj and bj she gives.

Whatever, the mindset of money never seems to change.

[sandyf]

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

When you sleep with hordes of men, it affects you on a deep level. They are not the same as normal women at all. 

Quite. A friend of mine married a particularly attractive bargirl, and there is a relationship between looks and numbers. Turned out she had been damaged internally and couldn't have children, well not any more, the ones he didn't know about were being cared for by relatives. Marriage didn't last very long.

[BritManToo]

24 minutes ago, thesetat said:

Can you imagine the uncertainty of (is that baby really mine) a man would have to face getting one of those girls pregnant? 

No problem, DNA testing around 5kbht.

[BritManToo]

28 minutes ago, thesetat said:

One other thing. How can you really be sure the woman is with you for real feelings towards you, rather than the fake show of liking every man that has a thick wallet and ready to share his wealth for some short time fun? She may have grown tired of showing every Tom, Dick, and Hairy she wanted them and loved then short time or long time haha.. And instead chose you to be her money support for the next few years instead. 

How is this a problem?

 

I don't think any feelings of love women display for sexual partners are real, beyond the first month/year. If they were, why does the sex in LTRs always stop after the 'honeymoon' period?

[ColeBOzbourne]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

Every time a woman has sex with a man she absorbs his DNA which enters her blood stream. Studies have shown that women have male DNA in their brains.

 

"Sexual intercourse involves the intimate physical union of

two individuals, and it is a means of reproduction in many

organisms, including humans. During this process, genetic

material can be exchanged between partners. The research

conducted at the University of Seattle has shed light on the

extent and significance of this genetic material transfer.

 

The study suggests that during sexual intercourse, small

amounts of DNA from one partner can be found in the 

bloodstream of the other partner. This phenomenon, known

as microchimerism, indicates that genetic material can cross

over from one individual to another. While this concept

is not entirely new, the research has provided a deeper

understanding of the extent of DNA transfer and its potential

implications (Chan et al., 2019).

 

The implications of DNA exchange through sexual intercourse

are profound. It challenges the traditional notion of genetic

individuality, as it suggests that individuals can carry traces

of DNA from their sexual partners within their own bodies.

 

The implications extend beyond individuals to their offspring as well.

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The research suggests that the genetic material transferred during sexual intercourse could

have consequences for future generations. It opens up the possibility that DNA from previous

sexual partners may influence the genetic makeup of children conceived in subsequent

relationships."

 

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/378036105_Sexual_Intercourse_and_Genetic_Integration_A_Philosophical_Exploration_of_the_Mysteries_of_DNA

 

This particular study that you refer to was completed by one single person, a Doctor of Philosophy from Nigeria, not by a Geneticist. His references for the paper are from studies in philosophy, not genetics. Having somebody's DNA in/on your body does not necessarily mean that their DNA has been incorporated into your DNA. You say that 'studies' (plural) have been done. Any examples of a study from an actual Geneticist representing a reputable institution? 

[BritManToo]

26 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

Men mostly behave the same way when presented with the same opportunities.

Women only have one womb, and impregnation leaves then with few choices for the next 9 months to 15 years.

Men have several choices for reproduction, so have more opportunities, and don't need to raise any of their children.

[BritManToo]

10 minutes ago, ColeBOzbourne said:

This particular study that you refer to was completed by one single person, a Doctor of Philosophy from Nigeria, not by a Geneticist. His references for the paper are from studies in philosophy, not genetics. Having somebody's DNA in/on your body does not necessarily mean that their DNA has been incorporated into your DNA. You say that 'studies' (plural) have been done. Any examples of a study from an actual Geneticist? 

Agree, just red pill nonsense.

Good luck finding your young, educated, Christian virgin from a good family.

 

What's interesting about the red pill movement is their disdain for Muslims who essentially have the women they appear to want.

[SMIAI]

Is someone confessing that the sex in his relationship stopped after the honeymoon period? 

 

Honestly, it probably stops because she wasn't enjoying it as much as you thought, in the first place. Especially if they are just employees, hired to fill a role.

It's different when you actually want to be with each other.

 

 

[MalcolmB]

1 minute ago, SMIAI said:

It's different when you actually want to be with each other.

I believe she still wanted sex.

Ran off with the gardener.

[Cameroni]

24 minutes ago, ColeBOzbourne said:

You say that 'studies' (plural) have been done. Any examples of a study from an actual Geneticist representing a reputable institution? 

 

Thank you for your intelligent questions Cole, of course I am happy to supply such a study. Please find below a research paper by the University of Seattle, done by several geneticists, including Laurence S Loubiere, from the University of Cambridge, which examines microchimerism in women without sons, which means you can NOT explain the presence of male DNA with the women having had a male baby:

 

"Male microchimerism in women without sons 

 

Conclusions: Male microchimerism was not infrequent in women without sons. Besides known pregnancies, other possible sources of male microchimerism include unrecognized spontaneous abortion, vanished male twin, an older brother transferred by the maternal circulation, or sexual intercourse."

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16084184/

 

So there you have it. Geneticists form the University of Cambridge, the University of Seattle telling you that microchimerism (the presence of male DNA in women) is not infrequent in women who had no sons, and that sexual intercourse is one of the ways in which the male DNA enters the female body."

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16084184/

 

Now, I am not a squeamish person by any stretch of the imagination. Quite the opposite. However, given that non-professional women tend to have between 5 to 50 partners by the time you get your turn, if you had to be with a woman  that had slept with 5000 men and carried the DNA of a fair number of them in her body, SURELY, the disgust llevel itself would be so high that you would not ever consider the former bar girl as a partner and potential mother of your children? 

 

A woman that slept with a lot of men, it's digusting to us for a reason, it turns out.

 

 

[FritsSikkink]

2 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Generally speaking of course, there are always exceptions.

What is polite society, the one filled with racists, mongers, .....? 

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, thesetat said:

Your numbers are for each month I would assume. Most bar girls screw that many men in a month. What about those women who have worked as a bar girl/ prostitute for many years? 

Can you imagine the uncertainty of (is that baby really mine) a man would have to face getting one of those girls pregnant? 

 

It is very hard to get the bar out of the girl as well as the attraction to the quick money they can make and their bar girl friends and the excessive drinking. I am not saying it is impossible but!!! 

 

One other thing. How can you really be sure the woman is with you for real feelings towards you, rather than the fake show of liking every man that has a thick wallet and ready to share his wealth for some short time fun? She may have grown tired of showing every Tom, Dick, and Hairy she wanted them and loved then short time or long time haha.. And instead chose you to be her money support for the next few years instead. 

 

Yes, monthly numbers, and I was of course assuming the happy instance where a farang meets a girl who's just started out on her sex work journey (as many farang insist is the case when they admit they have a bar girl).

 

No, it's not impossible to turn a bar girl good, but it's like turning a cheater good, the odds are astronomically against you, at least a 80 to 90 percent chance of failure, probably more.

 

How can you be sure her feelings toward you are real? This is an excellent question because ALL women, not just sex workers, will use this strategy of FAKING feelings for you, in order to build an attachment. Why? Because even if they are not attracted to you they might want to use you for other reasons, have you as a Plan B, get you to pay her mother's rent, etc. So how can you tell if her feelings are real? You need to look for these things:

 

1) A woman who has real feelings for you will be physically attracted you, meaning she will say things in the bedroom like "You can do anything you want with me", she will participate eagerly in the bedroom to ensure you enjoy sex and she will be warm and physically affectionate, hold your hand in bed, start sex out of herself.

 

2) She will do things for you that are over and above, she will want to be useful in your life, and she will go out of her way to do things for you that make your life better.

 

3) She will see you as her "best friend".

 

In short, she has to believe you are the best she could possibly get and she will do anything to make you happy. Now unfortunately total sluts give it away too, but it's never as warm and intimate as with a woman who truly loves you, so there's that.

[Hummin]

19 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Thank you for your intelligent questions Cole, of course I am happy to supply such a study. Please find below a research paper by the University of Seattle, done by several geneticists, including Laurence S Loubiere, from the University of Cambridge, which examines microchimerism in women without sons, which means you can NOT explain the presence of male DNA with the women having had a male baby:

 

"Male microchimerism in women without sons 

 

Conclusions: Male microchimerism was not infrequent in women without sons. Besides known pregnancies, other possible sources of male microchimerism include unrecognized spontaneous abortion, vanished male twin, an older brother transferred by the maternal circulation, or sexual intercourse."

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16084184/

 

So there you have it. Geneticists form the University of Cambridge, the University of Seattle telling you that microchimerism (the presence of male DNA in women) is not infrequent in women who had no sons, and that sexual intercourse is one of the ways in which the male DNA enters the female body."

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16084184/

 

Now, I am not a squeamish person by any stretch of the imagination. Quite the opposite. However, given that non-professional women tend to have between 5 to 50 partners by the time you get your turn, if you had to be with a woman  that had slept with 5000 men and carried the DNA of a fair number of them in her body, SURELY, the disgust llevel itself would be so high that you would not ever consider the former bar girl as a partner and potential mother of your children? 

 

A woman that slept with a lot of men, it's digusting to us for a reason, it turns out.

 

 

Do you read and understand your own links? 

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

I hope you can get over it one day.

 

But seriously I think sleeping with hordes of men THAT YOU ARE NOT ATTRACTED TO is the next level as opposed to a girl who is a slut and sleeps with men who she wants to.

Plus men who are paying for it are not interested in the slightest about how the girl feels and they are there to provide him with his sickest fantasies that he couldn’t do with a wife or girlfriend.

 

I think the real shocker, Malcolm, is that it is the norm that women sleep with men they are not attracted to, including non-professionals. If you think about it attractive men, those who have the body and the face, are extremely rare. 70% of Americans are obese or overweight, and that's just the body, even if they're slim they may not have the face. By definition attractive men are rare indeed very rare.

 

As a consequence, most women will have sex with men they do not really find physically attractive, for the simple reason that their social status is high, they have money or they like them for other reasons.

 

Shocking, I know.

[simon43]

Many in the bar are there only to get drunk, to party with their friends, maybe to take some drugs, many reek of cheap tobacco, of course many aim to chat up members of the opposite sex and end up in bed with them.  Many are obnoxious, selfish, uneducated, rude, many smell of BO....

 

That's a description of the male visitors to the bar, probably many bar-girls are just as bad....

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

1) A woman who has real feelings for you will be physically attracted you, meaning she will say things in the bedroom like "You can do anything you want with me", she will participate eagerly in the bedroom to ensure you enjoy sex and she will be warm and physically affectionate, hold your hand in bed, start sex out of herself.

 

2) She will do things for you that are over and above, she will want to be useful in your life, and she will go out of her way to do things for you that make your life better.

 

3) She will see you as her "best friend".

 

In short, she has to believe you are the best she could possibly get and she will do anything to make you happy. Now unfortunately total sluts give it away too, but it's never as warm and intimate as with a woman who truly loves you, so there's that.

1. You're forgetting 80/20 where 80% of women are attracted to 20% of men (although I've found it more to be more like 95/5) like most men I'm in the unattractive 80%, not a monster, but equally not attractive. If I were a woman, I wouldn't desire me. 

 

And why would you want to have deviant sex with her?

Missionary and spooning is enough for most normal men.

[transam]

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

No I am having a lot of fun.

Much more fun than being shacked up in Nakon Nowhere with an elderly woman and her grandkids from another man, no really my scene.

You've been burned, am I right ?, all you do is post baiting stuff, been reading it for years with all your usernames.....🤭

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, simon43 said:

Many in the bar are there only to get drunk, to party with their friends, maybe to take some drugs, many reek of cheap tobacco, of course many aim to chat up members of the opposite sex and end up in bed with them.  Many are obnoxious, selfish, uneducated, rude, many smell of BO....

 

That's a description of the male visitors to the bar, probably many bar-girls are just as bad....

And Thai housewives can be just as bad .......

Experienced one this morning, outside my house,  single mom, 40+, grab driver living with her retired parents. Outside my house calling and making odd sounds, I asked her what was wrong, budgie escape sitting on my upstairs balcony. Invited her in to try and catch it, up the stairs, through my bedroom, onto the balcony ......

Almost fainted as she brushed past me, nice lady, always happy.

 

Budgie saved though!

[Cameroni]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

1. You're forgetting 80/20 where 80% of women are attracted to 20% of men (although I've found it more to be more like 95/5) like most men I'm in the unattractive 80%, not a monster, but equally not attractive. If I were a woman, I wouldn't desire me. 

 

Good point, this of course perfectly correlates with the 70% of men are obese figure I gave above, and even some slim men will not have the face, and will not be attractive. So we can take it that about 20% of men are attractive, 2 out of 10.  However, more recent studies have shown a 95/5 or 90/10 split. Either way we can say with confidence that truly attractive men, those with the body and the face are exceedingly rare.

 

Below are the Tinder stats, which are more along the 95/5 split.

 

 

[cjinchiangrai]

Only if she wants out of the life and if you have enough money to keep her comfortable in the village. It would take time to build the trust.

 

Why would you do it? There are plenty of ladies available, get one that is age appropriate and educated.

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

The prettiest girl in the bar gets 80% of the customers.

More like 6-10 per day in Soi 6.

So more like 40,000 for the prettiest ones and 60,000 if they extend the career to 35.

 

At 1,000 a pop that is 60 million baht. Not easy work, hundreds of liters of sperm,  but rewarding financially.

 

We are talking about the top 1% though.

Decent coin... I shoulda not let me 20yr old spinner go, I could retire on her income !

[norsurin]

The only ones i see who stop contacting their old friends and bar is the ones who mov

e to ur country and being lazy and gain weight from 40 kg to 75 kg looking like a fat cow that nobody want anymore..not even urself.

But still money number one 

[BritManToo]

18 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Only if she wants out of the life and if you have enough money to keep her comfortable in the village. It would take time to build the trust.

 

Why would you do it? There are plenty of ladies available, get one that is age appropriate and educated.

Not really pretty ones though, and I wanted a young 9 or 10.

You might settle for average, but I'm more shallow than that.

As for education, I sent her to high school then university.

So now pretty and educated.

 

I have no need for trust, she has no option to take more than I want to give.

[MalcolmB]

43 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

A woman that slept with a lot of men, it's digusting to us for a reason, it turns out.

Personally I just worry and get insecure that the other guys were bigger and the girl enjoyed it more.

[MalcolmB]

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

As for education, I sent her to high school then university.

You must have got her young?

[MalcolmB]

11 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

get one that is age appropriate

What is that?

[StreetCowboy]

3 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

She is looking for someone to pay her to do the nasty.... You asking her about being a friend.

 

How much time of hers did you waste and why are you surprised at her reaction?

"friend" is a euphemism for sex for free.

[mikeymike100]

3 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

You are probably right.

You also have to look at what kind of character chooses that career path in the first place.

i would think that many are broken before they even started, bad parents, promiscuous, drinking, drugs, gambling, not finishing school, lack of respect for themselves and others.

Maybe, but some have little choice?