Trump Shifts Deportation Focus, Pausing Raids on Farms, Hotels and Eateries

[Patong2021]

Putting aside the optics, it is an intelligent response to a valid concern. The resources will be focused on other targets. There are so many unauthorized migrants that the change in focus will not change things. The initial strategy was targeting the low hanging fruit, the easy targets, Now ICE will have to work harder and go after the actual gang members and criminals.  In the interim, I expect that a strategy will be  implemented that facilitates the granting of work visas to the impacted sectors. Many of the unauthorized workers, didn't apply for visas, over stayed, did not bother to renew, or violated their visas by offences such as domestic battery or DUI.  It is up  to the Republicans to put on their big boy pants and to tell the nation, we need to refine the visa process and offer  the  essential workers a work visa, whether it is 1 or 3 million or more of them.  The current pause is not  going to  help anyone in the long term. The Democrats are going to have to agree.

[candide]

I just had a look at the sectors employing undocumented immigrants.

 

Actually, construction is the largest employer. Will illegals working in construction be arrested  as they are not mentioned by Trump? 

 

https://www.statista.com/chart/34074/us-industries-highest-share-of-the-workforce-undocumented-immigrants/

 

[dinsdale]

24 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

The initial strategy was targeting the low hanging fruit, the easy targets

No. Complete rubbish but nothing more than would be expected from you. Masked men grabbing grannies off the street. The MSM level of the syndrome rhetoric.

[dinsdale]

4 minutes ago, candide said:

I just had a look at the sectors employing undocumented immigrants.

 

Actually, construction is the largest employer. Will illegals working in construction be arrested  as they are not mentioned by Trump? 

 

https://www.statista.com/chart/34074/us-industries-highest-share-of-the-workforce-undocumented-immigrants/

 

Interesting. This was 2022. I wonder what the figures for 2024 look like.

[candide]

Just now, dinsdale said:

Interesting. This was 2022. I wonder what the figures for 2024 look like.

Why don't you try to find them?

[dinsdale]

7 minutes ago, candide said:

Why don't you try to find them?

You posted it. Why didn't you post something more up to date. I simply said I wonder what the figures are now. Did you not realise what you posted were 2022 figures?

[candide]

Just now, dinsdale said:

You posted it. Why didn't you post something more up to date. 

That's what I found.

[dinsdale]

8 minutes ago, candide said:

That's what I found.

Fair enough. I reckon the numbers would be a lot more for 2024. Maybe going down now ICE is doing their job albeit with massive resistance from the Dems in their sanctuary states.

[Patong2021]

21 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

No. Complete rubbish but nothing more than would be expected from you. Masked men grabbing grannies off the street. The MSM level of the syndrome rhetoric.

 

The masked agents are specific to certain surveillance operations. Most stops are by unmasked agents.  Those who are masked do so because of the need for personal safety. The courts allow for it. If some  people were not so intent on targeting LEO for retaliation, there would be no need.

[annotator]

47 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Putting aside the optics, it is an intelligent response to a valid concern. The resources will be focused on other targets. There are so many unauthorized migrants that the change in focus will not change things. The initial strategy was targeting the low hanging fruit, the easy targets, Now ICE will have to work harder and go after the actual gang members and criminals.  In the interim, I expect that a strategy will be  implemented that facilitates the granting of work visas to the impacted sectors. Many of the unauthorized workers, didn't apply for visas, over stayed, did not bother to renew, or violated their visas by offences such as domestic battery or DUI.  It is up  to the Republicans to put on their big boy pants and to tell the nation, we need to refine the visa process and offer  the  essential workers a work visa, whether it is 1 or 3 million or more of them.  The current pause is not  going to  help anyone in the long term. The Democrats are going to have to agree.

What a load of cr#p. This is exactly what the libtards have been saying all along. Now you think it's an intelligent response to make these criminals legal? LIke there wouldn't be Americans willing to do the work if the pay was better? You're just another RINO surrender monkey,

[candide]

5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Fair enough. I reckon the numbers would be a lot more for 2024. Maybe going down now ICE is doing their job albeit with massive resistance from the Dems in their sanctuary states.

The point was not the number, but the industry sectors employing most of them. I doubt that changed much.

[stevenl]

4 minutes ago, annotator said:

What a load of cr#p. This is exactly what the libtards have been saying all along. Now you think it's an intelligent response to make these criminals legal? LIke there wouldn't be Americans willing to do the work if the pay was better? You're just another RINO surrender monkey,

So this makes trump a rino. Interesting reasoning.

[annotator]

4 minutes ago, stevenl said:

So this makes trump a rino. Interesting reasoning.

Sometimes he says stuff like this but then reverses himself. I hope he's just baiting the America haters. Like he did with his fake fight with Elon.

[Patong2021]

24 minutes ago, annotator said:

What a load of cr#p. This is exactly what the libtards have been saying all along. Now you think it's an intelligent response to make these criminals legal? LIke there wouldn't be Americans willing to do the work if the pay was better? You're just another RINO surrender monkey,

 

My oh my. Your attempt to  provoke and to incite suggest that you are anything but a supporter of President Trump. You are  pushing a political agenda intended to antagonize and to destabilize. You showed  up just to  show your "outrage".  Intelligent people will not respond, although I am sure some gullible fool will take the bait.  The  consideration by the Trump administration  shows a willingness to listen to concerns.  It  won't help your intent of trying to sow discord and upset, but it is the  logical way to address some of the issues. So, where are your actual allegiances? Russia? China? Iran? Are you even a US citizen?

[kevozman1]

8 hours ago, transam said:

Yes he did, but most of his pretending to be a tough dictator has backfired, about turns in abundance....🤔

Crazy stuff for a President of the USA, embarrassing too........😬

 

You are correct in saying 'pretending' as he is an actor. All of these politicians are. I call it Hollywood for ugly folk. If Trump was a bit better looking and a bit of a better actor he could have got the Tom Cruise/Brad Pitt type gig, but anyway don't let any of that bamboozle you from the reality that Modern Liberalism is still in full swing in the West and nothing much has changed.

[annotator]

12 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

My oh my. Your attempt to  provoke and to incite suggest that you are anything but a supporter of President Trump. You are  pushing a political agenda intended to antagonize and to destabilize. You showed  up just to  show your "outrage".  Intelligent people will not respond, although I am sure some gullible fool will take the bait.  The  consideration by the Trump administration  shows a willingness to listen to concerns.  It  won't help your intent of trying to sow discord and upset, but it is the  logical way to address some of the issues. So, where are your actual allegiances? Russia? China? Iran? Are you even a US citizen?

Really? So you think people who enter the country illegally aren't criminals? That they don't drive down wages that real Americans need to get by? And what about all those people who came to America the legal way and followed the rules? This is like spitting in their face. And those so-called concerns you talk about, aren't they what libtards have been saying all along? Now, all of a sudden, what they say makes sense? I believe in the MAGA principles. And if President Trump goes astray, he should be called on it. Otherwise, we're no better than the Democrats who blindly followed Obama and Biden.

[bannork]

7 hours ago, annotator said:

This is what the libtards have been claiming and those of us in MAGA have been calling cr#p. If decent wages are offered for these jobs Americans will come running to fill them. The reason employers get away with bad pay is because illegals got no leverage. Get them out of the country and fill those jobs with real Americans.

So how much will the wages have to increase to entice the average Joe to move to a farm? 

Double perhaps.

Of course this will sharply increase the cost of food produce for the US consumer.

Are they prepared to pay?

[EVENKEEL]

11 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Speaking as an American, I can pretty much guarantee that most Americans are not interested in taking most of the jobs currently being held by the various undocumented workers from foreign countries.

 

Have you ever tried picking lettuce in the fields day in and day out for 12 hours a day?  How about cleaning the toilets and mopping the floors in a hotel?  Or washing the dishes in a restaurant day in and day out?

 

You wanna go to America and apply for those kinds of jobs?

 

I worked on a dairy putting in 12 hr days, I've cleaned toilets, mopped floors and had 2 separate jobs washing dishes. What's your point?

 

And I worked an apple orchard in Upstate NY picking apples alongside US blacks and Jamaicans. Those guys were making double minimum wage picking. 

 

Americans are just becoming lazier but letting illegals flood the country isn't the answer.

[Tug]

6 hours ago, annotator said:

What a load of cr#p. This is exactly what the libtards have been saying all along. Now you think it's an intelligent response to make these criminals legal? LIke there wouldn't be Americans willing to do the work if the pay was better? You're just another RINO surrender monkey,

Well I guess if people who disagree with your views are libtards then I guess it’s ok to call you a fascist/nazi ?the fact of the matter is the vast majority of migrants are dependable on time hard working folks keeping their heads down nose to the grinding stone trying to improve their and their children’s lives.I know because I’ve known a few.obviously the problem is more nuanced.

[jerrymahoney]

14 minutes ago, Tug said:

Well I guess if people who disagree with your views are libtards then I guess it’s ok to call you a fascist/nazi

No -- RepTard

[kiwikeith]

19 hours ago, annotator said:

President Donald Trump signaled on Thursday that “changes are coming” to his immigration policy, noting that farmers as well as hotel and leisure businesses have complained about his “very aggressive” crackdown on illegal immigrants.

In a post on Truth Social, the president said that he’s heard from farmers and people in the hotel industry who are concerned about the administration’s immigration crackdown “taking very good, long time workers away from them, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace.” Trump added that the United States must deport criminals while also protecting farmers.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-signals-changes-are-coming-to-immigration-enforcement-as-farmers-businesses-complain

 

So, he's letting these criminals stay?

He must save the Burito 

[annotator]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

So how much will the wages have to increase to entice the average Joe to move to a farm? 

Double perhaps.

Of course this will sharply increase the cost of food produce for the US consumer.

Are they prepared to pay?

So, are you saying it's ok to pay people sh#tty wages? Typical left wing double standard.

[annotator]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

I worked on a dairy putting in 12 hr days, I've cleaned toilets, mopped floors and had 2 separate jobs washing dishes. What's your point?

 

And I worked an apple orchard in Upstate NY picking apples alongside US blacks and Jamaicans. Those guys were making double minimum wage picking. 

 

Americans are just becoming lazier but letting illegals flood the country isn't the answer.

Exactly. Finally a fellow MAGA supporter with principles!

[bannork]

Just now, annotator said:

So, are you saying it's ok to pay people sh#tty wages? Typical left wing double standard.

No, I haven't expressed any view on the wages. I'm just asking you how much you think the wages have to increase to persuade Americans to work on a farm 

[annotator]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Well I guess if people who disagree with your views are libtards then I guess it’s ok to call you a fascist/nazi ?the fact of the matter is the vast majority of migrants are dependable on time hard working folks keeping their heads down nose to the grinding stone trying to improve their and their children’s lives.I know because I’ve known a few.obviously the problem is more nuanced.

And because they are illegal they have to accept substandard wages.  I'm for good wages for Americans and immigrants who come to America the legal way.

[bannork]

1 hour ago, annotator said:

And because they are illegal they have to accept substandard wages.  I'm for good wages for Americans and immigrants who come to America the legal way.

According to EVENKEEL, he was working with US blacks and Jamaicans making double minimum wage. So why do these legal people not want the work now?

One reason could be it's far from their homes and friends.

Unlike the immigrant who by his very action of migrating is driven by a motivation to make money, the resident citizen considers various factors when taking a job.

Farmers have the same problems in the UK. UK residents don't want to live on a windswept farm in a caravan, working hard physically far from home.

 

[Patong2021]

5 hours ago, annotator said:

Exactly. Finally a fellow MAGA supporter with principles!

 

Except, you really are not a MAGA supporter. 

[annotator]

24 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Except, you really are not a MAGA supporter. 

No. I'm a real MAGA supporter. I believe MAGA stands for something.  I believe in its principles. You wouldn't know what those principles were if they came up and bit you.

[Dave0206]

14 hours ago, bannork said:

No, I haven't expressed any view on the wages. I'm just asking you how much you think the wages have to increase to persuade Americans to work on a farm 

Well in new Hampshire very cheap place to live apparently you can get by on $7.25 per hour. Every time minimum wage is mentioned congress and the senate block it I wonder why? 

[CanadaSam]

I really didn't believe that MAGA people have the intelligence of 8 year old children, until I read all the comments on here supporting throwing out farm workers and "increasing" the pay so that Americans can fill those jobs.

 

The "pay" would effectively DOUBLE from the illegal workers current pay, to American minimum salaries.

 

That, would effectively DOUBLE the cost of most of your food, almost instantly.  Are you people insane, or just completely ignorant and/or brain dead?