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Thailand in Trouble: Expats Exit as Vietnam Steals the Show

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On 6/19/2025 at 4:39 AM, sambum said:

 

I had a cataract removed and a replacement lens fitted privately and it cost 75,000 baht (special lens to improve far and mid distance vision). A friend of my Thai wife had a similar procedure done (standard lens) and it  cost her 6,000 baht, so don't tell me there is no double pricing!

A large part of that 75,000 baht went to the cost of the lens. 

(prices in US dollars)

Monofocal (standard)

$50 – $200

Toric (astigmatism-correcting)

$400 – $1,000

Multifocal or EDOF (extended depth of focus)

$1,000 – $2,500+

Light-adjustable lenses

$2,500 – $4,000+

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On 6/19/2025 at 4:39 PM, sambum said:

 

I had a cataract removed and a replacement lens fitted privately and it cost 75,000 baht (special lens to improve far and mid distance vision). A friend of my Thai wife had a similar procedure done (standard lens) and it  cost her 6,000 baht, so don't tell me there is no double pricing!

   I wonder if your Thai wife's friend had her eye procedure done at a public hospital--which, of course, would be cheaper than a private hospital such as what you used, and result in two different prices.  Also, to start with, her standard lens likely cost far less than your special type of lens.  My Thai spouse and I both had lasik done at a private hospital and we were both charged the same price.   

   About 12 years after our lasik, we both had lens replcement, Supersight, done.  Same private hospital.  Mine cost slightly more but that was only because I required a different, more expensive lens, not because I was a farang and my partner Thai.  The service was quick and easy, both of us done in one day, with both eyes done for each of us.  

   Contrast that to my partner's Thai sister.  She also wanted lens replacement but, to save money, she used her public hospital.  When we saw her, she had had one eye done but was waiting to have the second one done because the public hospital had run out of the type of  replacement lens she needed.   Months later, she was still waiting.  I think she has now had the second eye finally done.  

   So, in this example, two different prices, for two levels of medical care, reflecting the use of a private hospital over a less expensive public one.  Frankly, I don't have a problem with Thai citizens paying less at both public and private hospitals--or parks, museums, national monuments, etc., etc.

     

 

9 hours ago, newnative said:

   I wonder if your Thai wife's friend had her eye procedure done at a public hospital--which, of course, would be cheaper than a private hospital such as what you used, and result in two different prices.  Also, to start with, her standard lens likely cost far less than your special type of lens.  My Thai spouse and I both had lasik done at a private hospital and we were both charged the same price.   

   About 12 years after our lasik, we both had lens replcement, Supersight, done.  Same private hospital.  Mine cost slightly more but that was only because I required a different, more expensive lens, not because I was a farang and my partner Thai.  The service was quick and easy, both of us done in one day, with both eyes done for each of us.  

   Contrast that to my partner's Thai sister.  She also wanted lens replacement but, to save money, she used her public hospital.  When we saw her, she had had one eye done but was waiting to have the second one done because the public hospital had run out of the type of  replacement lens she needed.   Months later, she was still waiting.  I think she has now had the second eye finally done.  

   So, in this example, two different prices, for two levels of medical care, reflecting the use of a private hospital over a less expensive public one.  Frankly, I don't have a problem with Thai citizens paying less at both public and private hospitals--or parks, museums, monuments, etc., etc.

     

 

 

You are quite right in your assumptions in that she had hers done at a Public Hospital whereas I opted to go to a Private Hospital. However, I got a quote from the Public Hospital where she was treated, and for the cataract removal and basic lens fitted they were going to charge me app 40,000 baht, whereas she paid 6,000 baht! I don't mind paying slightly more, but almost SEVEN times as much is a BIG price differential!!!

(I opted to go to a Private Hospital because (a) A couple of farang friends had been there and recommended it highly, and (b) the Public Hospital did not stock the type of lens that I required.) 

 

Regarding your point re  "parks, museums, monuments, etc., etc.", I wonder how Thais would feel if, for instance, they had to pay £50 to visit London Zoo, whereas the locals only had to pay £10? (Figures for illustration points only!) 

On 6/20/2025 at 2:04 AM, zmisha said:

Well, Malaysia has its own strange politicians and crazy things they introduce. Cannot pay cash for public transportation there. So taxi is the only available transport for tourists there. Very inconvenient.

Bus drivers were stealing bus fares by recycling tickets. Moreover, KL could only implement a single concessionary pass system for all the LRT, MRT, Monorail, BRT and bus lines if a single cashless system is employed. RM10 (for foreigners, RM6 for locals) for an unlimited day pass for all the metro lines including buses is a very good deal. You just need to buy a reloadable card (called Touch N Go) at any metro station or at the Touch N Go service center in KL Sentral. You can also use the Touch N Go card to pay for parking and tolls.

2 hours ago, Selatan said:

Bus drivers were stealing bus fares by recycling tickets. Moreover, KL could only implement a single concessionary pass system for all the LRT, MRT, Monorail, BRT and bus lines if a single cashless system is employed. RM10 (for foreigners, RM6 for locals) for an unlimited day pass for all the metro lines including buses is a very good deal. You just need to buy a reloadable card (called Touch N Go) at any metro station or at the Touch N Go service center in KL Sentral. You can also use the Touch N Go card to pay for parking and tolls.

Double pricing for the subway, that's something I have never seen.

Thailand is planning to do the same.

On 6/23/2025 at 10:00 PM, Lorry said:

Double pricing for the subway, that's something I have never seen.

Thailand is planning to do the same.

There are no dual-pricing policy for individual trip fares. The dual-pricing are for concessionary passes, which used to be only for Malaysian citizens, but now extended to tourists to boost tourism.

On 6/19/2025 at 9:15 AM, henryford1958 said:

Vietnam is OK for tourists but without a retirement visa it is a non starter for expats.

What about Healthcare?

 

This is something that affects all us retirees one way or another.

Can anyone shed light on the medical facilities in Vietnam?

Any international hospitals?

3 minutes ago, ThaiPauly said:

What about Healthcare?

 

This is something that affects all us retirees one way or another.

Can anyone shed light on the medical facilities in Vietnam?

Any international hospitals?

 

Does it matter if you can't retire there. Actually one of the better things about Thailand is it's health and dental care. 

39 minutes ago, ThaiPauly said:

What about Healthcare?

 

This is something that affects all us retirees one way or another.

Can anyone shed light on the medical facilities in Vietnam?

Any international hospitals?

Seems good to me. I went to the best eye doctor in saigon when I was there and it only cost me $40 or so.

On 6/19/2025 at 4:06 AM, MalcolmB said:

Thailand is ten times better than Communist Vietnam.

Thailand has visas to suit everyone. 
Next week they will be Cambodia is going to beat Thailand.

Next month the Philippines.

 

But the reality is Thailand is the best. Always has been, always will be.

istill in thailand , but only 6 month

still  ok

but reality is , there are other countrys, and for famillys and rich people  (i know to many turned aay of wealthy people ,they are euopeans, and most went to PT,ES )many more better options. for me, single , ebven there are options.....i traveld more 12 countrys after corona.

 

and can tell you if i not have longterm relation over 30years to thai, i would be maybe gone to.....open eyes    dont  run  blind

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