newbee2022 Posted 7 hours ago Author Posted 7 hours ago 12 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: IQ is a BS 'test' that was designed to measure a person's ability to think and thus learn. Once a person has passed the age of about 16-18 their IQ test results are very much influenced by their education - the better educated they are, the higher they will score in the standard IQ tests. That is why the current western world is full of over-educated idiots who have a degree and think they are intelligent and can run a country or company, when they should be plumbers and cleaners - especially those in subjects like 'gender studies'. It seems you didn't get a good education or even a happy childhood? And now you envy those with a higher degree? If so, I'm pity you. Don't. They pee same as you. IQ tests nowadays are used to diagnose disability health issues. Read eg here: Many other sources available btw https://www.healthline.com/health/iq-testing 2
KannikaP Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 27 minutes ago, KannikaP said: Spent half an hour doing these puzzles, nothing to do with intelligence, skipped a couple. Then it wants GBP 0.79 off my C Card to get results, recurring payment if not cancelled within two days. Scam. Our IQ test service is exceptionally offered at the price of £0.79 (incl. VAT) for a 2-day trial. At the end of the trial period and without cancellation from your side, our offer will be automatically renewed as a non-binding subscription, at the price of £35.90 per month (incl. VAT). Once you know your own IQ, why would you pay 35.90 a month to see if it changes? 1 1
mfd101 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago The trouble with this whole smart-arsy discussion is the usual Western 'cultural superiority' syndrome. Doesn't seem to occur to most of the commentators above that 'IQ' as measured by 'IQ tests' is a measure of what is important in 'Western' cultures, namely abstract thought & logic & reading ability. So where does that leave people like the older members of my Khmer peasant family who have never been to school, have never learned to read & write, don't know what a world map is that I pinned on the wall of the new house I built for them a decade ago etc etc. Does that mean they're 'stupid'? 'dumb'? unable to get thru life successfully? ... Well, it would be interesting to see who would cope better in the rice paddies and in other food-production processes following a major war that cut all international & many intra-country supply lines. I wonder who would be laughing then? 1
TedG Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Lacessit said: Average American IQ is 98-100. It's too early to tell what dismantling the federal education system in America will do to that average. Two facts that give pause: 50% of Americans still believe in angels. In terms of wealth inequality, three men in America control more money than the bottom 150 million Americans. There is not a federal education system in the USA. The schools are run at the state and local level.
Hummin Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 minutes ago, mfd101 said: Well, it would be interesting to see who would cope better in the rice paddies and in other food-production processes following a major war that cut all international & many intra-country supply lines. I wonder who would be laughing then? Left alone in the jungle I wouldn't survive long, with my wife we would be OK. She knows where to find food and water year around 1 1
spidermike007 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago That's about the same as the average IQ in Washington DC. I know a lot of Thai people that aren't particularly good at science or math and may not score high on an IQ test, but on the street smarts measurement they're off the scale, so how do you measure practical intelligence and what does an IQ test result really mean? 1 1
Yellowtail Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, TedG said: There is not a federal education system in the USA. The schools are run at the state and local level. And of course, the left runs virtually every aspect of public education in the US. Some old leftist buffoons believe that cutting funding for DEI programs and for schools the mandate that men be allowed to shower with girls or that Jews should not be harassed on campus has a negative affect on the quality of education. California one of the top five in spending, and in the bottom five in quality of outcome. 1
Yellowtail Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Hummin said: Left alone in the jungle I wouldn't survive long, with my wife we would be OK. She knows where to find food and water year around She found you, yes? 1
Watawattana Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 15 hours ago, blaze master said: Depends on what source you go from. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country Eh. Not that this source is always accurate. According to them Hong Kong had a population of over 9 million, whereas reality is just over 7.
Hummin Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: That's about the same as the average IQ in Washington DC. I know a lot of Thai people that aren't particularly good at science or math and may not score high on an IQ test, but on the street smarts measurement they're off the scale, so how do you measure practical intelligence and what does an IQ test result really mean? The mensa test is all about rechonizing patterns and logic based on time and age. It doesn't test your writing skills (thank god) or what you have learned in life. And it evaluates you on problem solving basically This is what AI says Mensa tests often include logical pattern tests as part of their assessment. These tests evaluate your ability to identify patterns, relationships, and logical sequences in visual or numerical data. They assess inductive reasoning, problem-solving skills, and the ability to make logical inferences. 1
Hummin Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: She found you, yes? In fact yes, she found me in a jungle I desperately tried to escape from 😁 1
Mike_Hunt Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 15 hours ago, newbee2022 said: The last days I realized that some Expats here had been concerned about the IQ of other members. So I did my research and was surprised to see the average IQ in Thailand is said to be 89. Can you do better? https://iqinternational.org/?gc_id=21779466383&h_ga_id=171276631351&h_ad_id=715837459374&h_keyword_id=kwd-12171861&h_keyword=iq test&h_placement=&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21779466383&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjdTCBhCLARIsAEu8bpKEf6iior63-YCeW_ko3YMBIzFTyIsKNh_lTLyqoLr7y4v4qEh1VZwaAlroEALw_wcB Are you still stung by your score of 50?
TroubleandGrumpy Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 57 minutes ago, Hummin said: Take an mensa test, see for your self, it is not what you think it is at all. 😁 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient Me thinks you were a plumber or a cleaner.
Hummin Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 5 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient Me thinks you were a plumber or a cleaner. Disappointed? High risk takers generally scores high on locical tests, and with good problem solving skills.
newbee2022 Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Hummin said: Disappointed? High risk takers generally scores high on locical tests, and with good problem solving skills. Me thinks you were a plumber or a cleaner..... Hahaha. Why not admit it? Nothing wrong to come with a big hose for cleaning or Cleaning the pipes or plumbing them all?😂🥳
Hummin Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Just now, newbee2022 said: Me thinks you were a plumber or a cleaner..... Hahaha. Why not admit it? Nothing wrong to come with a big hose for cleaning or Cleaning the pipes or plumbing them all?😂🥳 Offshore engineer? Professional athlete for a decade, started a few businesses, invented a few things, Not big things, but it paid my bills, and still do. Not rich, but not broke either, So I can be your cleaner if you pay well, but maybe not the cleaning you asked for 😁 Joking asides, iq is not everything, it comes down to your upbringing and your ability to handle yourself without making people uncomfortable or be to much of your self.
cjinchiangrai Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Total BS IQ over a large sample is not going to vary much more than one point. There has to be a bias in the testing.
newbee2022 Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Hummin said: Offshore engineer? Professional athlete for a decade, started a few businesses, invented a few things, Not big things, but it paid my bills, and still do. Not rich, but not broke either, So I can be your cleaner if you pay well, but maybe not the cleaning you asked for 😁 Joking asides, iq is not everything, it comes down to your upbringing and your ability to handle yourself without making people uncomfortable or be to much of your self. Sorry, I was only joking. No harm intended
cjinchiangrai Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 38 minutes ago, Hummin said: The mensa test is all about rechonizing patterns and logic based on time and age. It doesn't test your writing skills (thank god) or what you have learned in life. And it evaluates you on problem solving basically This is what AI says Mensa tests often include logical pattern tests as part of their assessment. These tests evaluate your ability to identify patterns, relationships, and logical sequences in visual or numerical data. They assess inductive reasoning, problem-solving skills, and the ability to make logical inferences. The MENSA test is to define very small variances at the extreme upper end of the scale, not for defining IQ in the first deviations. An average person would do poorly on a MENSA test, because all the questions are too high level.
Photoguy21 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Hummin said: Take an mensa test, see for your self, it is not what you think it is at all. 😁 I did and got 139
newbee2022 Posted 5 hours ago Author Posted 5 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said: I did and got 139 That's far less than the Greatest dealmaker is supposed to have 🎉
FritsSikkink Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 16 hours ago, newbee2022 said: The last days I realized that some Expats here had been concerned about the IQ of other members. So I did my research and was surprised to see the average IQ in Thailand is said to be 89. Can you do better? https://iqinternational.org/?gc_id=21779466383&h_ga_id=171276631351&h_ad_id=715837459374&h_keyword_id=kwd-12171861&h_keyword=iq test&h_placement=&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21779466383&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjdTCBhCLARIsAEu8bpKEf6iior63-YCeW_ko3YMBIzFTyIsKNh_lTLyqoLr7y4v4qEh1VZwaAlroEALw_wcB 136, what about you?
newbee2022 Posted 5 hours ago Author Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: 136, what about you? Well, the last test I did for fun seriously with a guy and my later friend Karl Lauterbach (professor, former minister for health in Germany) at Harvard Medical School. 50 years ago. At that time IQ played a more important role than today. Yes, we got results in that range. Unfortunately we never met again.
Hummin Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said: I did and got 139 That’s great, but you are on the risky side to be a genius, or
Photoguy21 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Just now, Hummin said: That’s great, but you are on the risky side to be a genius, or I doubt that somehow
newbee2022 Posted 5 hours ago Author Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Hummin said: That’s great, but you are on the risky side to be a genius, or Well, a late Einstein hopefully.
Hummin Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Just now, newbee2022 said: Well, a late Einstein hopefully. Einstein and newton had a more complex iq far beyond anyone else thinking of their creative visionary mathematical logical sense. Not many have been on their level. Visionary and literally far beyond human logical sense. in modern times there is people with higher iq but do they manage to use its potential? Gary Kasparov most likely same as Newton around 190. some Asians high up on 200?
newbee2022 Posted 5 hours ago Author Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Hummin said: Einstein and newton had a more complex iq far beyond anyone else thinking of their creative visionary mathematical logical sense. Not many have been on their level. Visionary and literally far beyond human logical sense. in modern times there is people with higher iq but do they manage to use its potential? Gary Kasparov most likely same as Newton around 190. some Asians high up on 200? Given that there is someone with IQ of 200. Would this person be able to rule a country with an average of citizen's IQ of 90 or less? I doubt it.
Hummin Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 6 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: Given that there is someone with IQ of 200. Would this person be able to rule a country with an average of citizen's IQ of 90 or less? I doubt it. Well give Musk some power as an experiment, oh, wait a second,
Keep Right Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 17 hours ago, proton said: why ?reality is not racist, Chinese and Japanese usually head the IQ list, Africans and aboriginals at the other end For some reason, the Israel-es score at the top of the IQ list. And this is certainly evidenced by the number of prominent geniuses through out history. I on the other hand, while not being Jewish or Asean, struggle.
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