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35 minutes ago, mania said:

 

I guess that could be true. I just wish cooler heads had prevailed in this instance

And I am happy with it, so we are clearly divided, yes? 

 

I know I do not wish I had voted for Harris, you? 

 

I know I going to vote red in the midterms, you?

 

I know I hope to have a chance to help put J.D. in office come '28, you? 

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So one country attacks another country just because they can. Any sanctions for the aggression to follow? Europe, Japan, Australia, anyone dare to remove their tongue from the ass?

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40 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Well obviously all about the money because you know who controls the United States. 

'The Order' an excellent movie just out.  Jude Law stars and co produced. based on a true story - about who wants to control the US 

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1 minute ago, VBer said:

So one country attacks another country just because they can. Any sanctions for the aggression to follow? Europe, Japan, Australia, anyone dare to remove their tongue from the ass?

Is Iran not already sanctioned? 

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3 minutes ago, VBer said:

So one country attacks another country just because they can. Any sanctions for the aggression to follow? Europe, Japan, Australia, anyone dare to remove their tongue from the ass?

Nevermind

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3 minutes ago, riclag said:

Since 2011 Trump has said Iran can’t have a nuke! Pay attention to the last sentence in the Ai  statement.

 

America is fighting a crisis on two fronts 

1.Iran & Terror proxies in and around the ME.

2. Iran & Terror proxies sympathizers on the streets of its cities, rioting .

 

The appeasing of Terror  is so bad in America , I heard Trump didnt brief the Democrats who seem to love Iran & its terror proxies.


Peace through Strength !

 

 

 

Google Gemini Ai:

“Donald Trump has consistently stated that Iran cannot be allowed to have a nuclear weapon, with his documented opposition tracing back to his 2011 book, "Time to Get Tough." In this book, he explicitly wrote that "America's primary goal with Iran must be to destroy its nuclear ambitions" and emphasized that "Iran's nuclear program must be stopped by any and all means necessary. Period. We cannot allow this radical regime to acquire a nuclear weapon that they will either use or hand off to terrorists.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/21/politics/republicans-democrats-iran-strikes-briefings

 

Actually its all recorded here by the White House, each time he said, dozens.

 

President Trump Has Always Been Clear: Iran Cannot Have a Nuclear Weapon
The White House
June 17, 2025

President Donald J. Trump has never wavered in his stance that Iran cannot be allowed to have a nuclear weapon — a pledge he has made repeatedly, both in office and on the campaign trail.

Since taking office, President Trump has clearly stated no fewer than a dozen times that Iran cannot be allowed to have a nuclear weapon:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/06/president-trump-has-always-been-clear-iran-cannot-have-a-nuclear-weapon/

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5 minutes ago, riclag said:

Since 2011 Trump has said Iran can’t have a nuke! Pay attention to the last sentence in the Ai  statement.

 

America is fighting a crisis on two fronts 

1.Iran & Terror proxies in and around the ME.

2. Iran & Terror proxies sympathizers on the streets of its cities, rioting .

 

The appeasing of Terror  is so bad in America , I heard Trump didnt brief the Democrats who seem to love Iran & its terror proxies.


Peace through Strength !

 

 

 

Google Gemini Ai:

“Donald Trump has consistently stated that Iran cannot be allowed to have a nuclear weapon, with his documented opposition tracing back to his 2011 book, "Time to Get Tough." In this book, he explicitly wrote that "America's primary goal with Iran must be to destroy its nuclear ambitions" and emphasized that "Iran's nuclear program must be stopped by any and all means necessary. Period. We cannot allow this radical regime to acquire a nuclear weapon that they will either use or hand off to terrorists.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/21/politics/republicans-democrats-iran-strikes-briefings

 

 

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The US  will now need to keep lots of assets in the area to deal with possible retaliations. So with America now distracted in the Middle East, maybe China will see this as an opportunity to invade Tawain.

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1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Actually its all recorded here by the White House, each time he said, dozens.

 

President Trump Has Always Been Clear: Iran Cannot Have a Nuclear Weapon
The White House
June 17, 2025

President Donald J. Trump has never wavered in his stance that Iran cannot be allowed to have a nuclear weapon — a pledge he has made repeatedly, both in office and on the campaign trail.

Since taking office, President Trump has clearly stated no fewer than a dozen times that Iran cannot be allowed to have a nuclear weapon:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/06/president-trump-has-always-been-clear-iran-cannot-have-a-nuclear-weapon/

Thanks ! He detected the Iran proxy threat even in 2011.

Posted
4 hours ago, shdmn said:

What are MAGAts pivoting to now that their whole "no war, no world police president blah blah" talking point is dead?  Not that anyone with half a brain ever believed that nonsense in the first place.

Nothing new...there will be more wars, until China dismantles this nest of parasites. I would be probably gone by then. 

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13 minutes ago, VBer said:

So one country attacks another country just because they can. Any sanctions for the aggression to follow? Europe, Japan, Australia, anyone dare to remove their tongue from the ass?

Europe is backing this action. 

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Trump is fronting up to NATO at The Hague later this week — and after effectively declaring war on Iran and leaving them to deal with his fallout, it’ll be interesting to see what support he gets from the alliance he once called 'obsolete.'
 

As Ollie said to Stan: 'Well, here’s another nice mess you’ve gotten me into!'
 

PS  
Ukraine’s Zelenskyy will be there — maybe Trump will explain the sanctions he never imposed, after giving Putin a two-week ultimatum for peace that expired with barely a whimper, nearly two weeks ago.

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1 minute ago, LosLobo said:

Trump is fronting up to NATO at The Hague later this week — and after effectively declaring war on Iran and leaving them to deal with his fallout, it’ll be interesting to see what support he gets from the alliance he once called 'obsolete.'
 

As Ollie said to Stan: 'Well, here’s another nice mess you’ve gotten me into!'
 

PS  
Ukraine’s Zelenskyy will be there — maybe Trump will explain the sanctions he never imposed, after giving Putin a two-week ultimatum for peace that expired with barely a whimper, nearly two weeks ago.

Europe Backs Israel Against Iran Despite Anger Over Gaza

 

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/europe-backs-israel-against-iran-despite-anger-over-gaza-e72952c5?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAhUu322agvYO1hCdg4_JIMIaNZlkDY3Haca8gJGywWjchNvHrJy4_aX&gaa_ts=685795c3&gaa_sig=Vzb6bUNb1k0qtFhGao8nV2WLHbJ-yuuNqfCaNxaHMoAqWExgqr10SA1ivku6pxmGrHd6qTt5uTsCIafZSPrA0g%3D%3D

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4 minutes ago, TedG said:

Europe is backing this action. 


Europe is on board with hardline anti-proliferation policies, but is not backing unilateral U.S. strikes. They support shared diplomatic pressure, not bombs.

At NATO, expect Europe to support Trump's defense-spending push—but they’ll draw the line at endorsing an Iran military campaign lacking multilateral consensus.

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4 hours ago, WorriedNoodle said:

President Trump could potentially be impeached for bombing Iran without congressional approval, as it may violate the U.S. Constitution, which grants Congress the sole power to declare war (Article I, Section 8). The War Powers Resolution of 1973 further requires presidential notification to Congress within 48 hours of military action and limits such actions to 60-90 days without congressional authorization.

 

I'm sure that both House and Senate minority leaders were in the loop when Trump decided to pull this trigger. Anyway, taking a leaf from Putin's playbook, Russia never declared war on Ukraine, they conducted a "special operation". Bombing three nuclear facilities in Iran was a "special operation", not a declaration of war (if you ignore his fiery rhetoric and bluster on Truth Social).

 

Now, if this is a busted flush that does require the ongoing active involvement of US forces beyond 60-90 days, then I assume the whole congressional fandamily will get their five minutes of fame.

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10 minutes ago, TedG said:

Europe is backing this action. 

So, is it right to attack another country if it seems reasonable and you can achieve your targets that way?

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2 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

I'm sure that both House and Senate minority leaders were in the loop when Trump decided to pull this trigger. Anyway, taking a leaf from Putin's playbook, Russia never declared war on Ukraine, they conducted a "special operation". Bombing three nuclear facilities in Iran was a "special operation", not a declaration of war (if you ignore his fiery rhetoric and bluster on Truth Social).

 

Now, if this is a busted flush that does require the ongoing active involvement of US forces beyond 60-90 days, then I assume the whole congressional fandamily will get their five minutes of fame.

Well, I think that would be the first time in about 80 years the US declared war. 

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1 minute ago, VBer said:

So, is it right to attack another country if it seems reasonable and you can achieve your targets that way?

No. It is right to attack another country if it seems reasonable that they plan to attack you.

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6 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

I'm sure that both House and Senate minority leaders were in the loop when Trump decided to pull this trigger. Anyway, taking a leaf from Putin's playbook, Russia never declared war on Ukraine, they conducted a "special operation". Bombing three nuclear facilities in Iran was a "special operation", not a declaration of war (if you ignore his fiery rhetoric and bluster on Truth Social).

 

Now, if this is a busted flush that does require the ongoing active involvement of US forces beyond 60-90 days, then I assume the whole congressional fandamily will get their five minutes of fame.

I’m not sure taking a leaf out of Putin’s playbook is at all good thing.

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