7 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Who says bar girls are 20 sth?

There's a lot of older ones still working in the bars. 

 

If you want an older gal, then just get a non bar girl / guy.  Plenty of those looking for foreigner, or so I read.

 

My wife wasn't, as took her a long time to warm up to me.   No interest in anybody, just gotten rid her deadbeat Thai husband, a year or so earlier.

4 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

Enjoying a glass of wine is such a rare skill these days... 

, I believe the girls who like to drink drink whatever they get presented 😉

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

According to all the studies, books and articles I've read by psychologists , psychiatrists and counselors, which has been hundreds, who have interviewed and treated woman and couples, the average amount of men women have had, outside of prostitution, is 7.

 

Surveys can be truthful, especially seeing they're anonymous, but people who help women in relationships have women there for a reason.

 

Anything more than 15 men for a 40 year old woman is promiscuous, all depending on age and if there were marriages. This comes from polls from women and men. Any woman having 50 or more men is very damaged goods, and will have a hard if not impossible time trying to maintain a normal relationship with any man, no matter how good he is. 

I think you're bringing a very puritanical attitude to the table along with a lot of fake polls. You certainly can't expect women to be honest about the number of sexual partners they have, in this day and age a lot of girls in America start having sex at 13, but they don't call it sex because it's anal, and they still consider themselves virgins. But by the time they are in college they've already had a hundred boys. 

 

I think in Thailand if anything the girls might be less promiscuous than in America, if they're not professionals. 

 

A woman who's had over 50 men is not damaged goods on any level. I would not hesitate to go out with or even marry a woman who's had a hundred men, no big deal at all. I don't have double standards when it comes to women and their sexual experience. The last woman in the world I would want to go out with is one who's either a virgin or who has had very little sexual experience. I'll leave that for the fake Puritan Arabs .

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I know guys who have met bar girls, or massage gals, and ended up having long term relationships with them, that were good for both of them. A prostitute is not necessarily a prostitute. We have to define that, and there are an infinite number of variation of that definition. If someone is fortunate enough to rescue a good gal from a massage shop or a bar, within the first few months of her working there, it is quite possible she is still normal, and emotionally healthy. The trick is determining how long she has been at it. That can be difficult, as they all have a story.

 

So, how many? Many of us think there is a sort of sliding scale of psychological damage.

 

In my opinion, up to 150 men (some experience), no big deal. Most men like to argue that their gal has only been with a few guys. Yeah, right. Most American women have likely been with 20-200 guys. Despite the answers they give to those taking surveys! 

 

150-500 men (BAB - been around the block), she is experienced, but will likely be fine, if she has a good heart, and a strong mind.

 

500-1000 men (AVEG - a very experienced gal) is approaching the point where there very well might be some long term psychological damage.

 

1000-2000 men (ASP - a serious pro), and there is likely to be long term bitterness towards men.

 

2000-6000 men (ATW - around the world) and over, and there is little chance of being able to engage emotionally in a healthy manner, ever again. And there could be physical issues too. There are likely exceptions. But not many.

 

 I am absolutely sure that there is no any difference between 100 and 1000 and 10000. Once a certain red line is crossed - there is no way back to "normality" for a woman. 

Wow, you set of weird, bored oddballs STILL talk about exactly the same things year after year, it never ends.

 

*goes to look for a rope

Just now, Stuck in Thailand said:

Wow, you set of weird, bored oddballs STILL talk about exactly the same things year after year, it never ends.

 

*goes to look for a rope

 

 

......and yet here you are.....555

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I think you're bringing a very puritanical attitude to the table along with a lot of fake polls. You certainly can't expect women to be honest about the number of sexual partners they have, in this day and age a lot of girls in America start having sex at 13, but they don't call it sex because it's anal, and they still consider themselves virgins. But by the time they are in college they've already had a hundred boys. 

 

I think in Thailand if anything the girls might be less promiscuous than in America, if they're not professionals. 

 

A woman who's had over 50 men is not damaged goods on any level. I would not hesitate to go out with or even marry a woman who's had a hundred men, no big deal at all. I don't have double standards when it comes to women and their sexual experience. The last woman in the world I would want to go out with is one who's either a virgin or who has had very little sexual experience. I'll leave that for the fake Puritan Arabs .

 

have you ever thought about getting yourself a life pal? genuine question.

4 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

 I am absolutely sure that there is no any difference between 100 and 1000 and 10000. Once a certain red line is crossed - there is no way back to "normality" for a woman. 

I could not disagree more adamantly. I think you would be absolutely shocked at the percentage of women that have had a hundred guys, and believe me it's no big deal at all. It's just your puritanical mind that can embrace that concept. 

Just now, Stuck in Thailand said:

 

have you ever thought about getting yourself a life pal? genuine question.

I have one. She is amazing. 

Just now, Will B Good said:

 

 

......and yet here you are.....555

 

Erh, not year after year and I won't be here for long, so try again you tragic oddball.

Just now, spidermike007 said:

I have one. She is amazing. 

 

I'll take that as a no.

Just now, Stuck in Thailand said:

 

Erh, not year after year and I won't be here for long, so try again you tragic oddball.

Tragic oddball. I would consider that a bit of a classic. I think I'm going to start using it myself. It applies to many. 

8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

, I believe the girls who like to drink drink whatever they get presented 😉

That's a bit telling ... no thanks.

 

Wife doesn't drink alcohol at all, though humored me the first couple month, but basically stopped soon after.  As I did also, a couple years later, though only a weekend or monthly warrior myself.  If we have 3 alcohol beverages in a year, that's about our limit.

2 minutes ago, Stuck in Thailand said:

 

Erh, not year after year and I won't be here for long, so try again you tragic oddball.

 

 

Four comments in three minutes......calm down dear, calm down.

Just now, spidermike007 said:

Tragic oddball. I would consider that a bit of a classic. I think I'm going to start using it myself. It applies to many. 

 

Thanks, I'll let you nick it 🙂

1 minute ago, Stuck in Thailand said:

 

I'll take that as a no.

You can take it as a yes, you can take it as a no, you can take it as a maybe. It means nothing to me. I care not one iota what you think about me, truly less than zero. Fortunately my self-esteem is not based on oddball comments from netizens. 

11 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

 I am absolutely sure that there is no any difference between 100 and 1000 and 10000. Once a certain red line is crossed - there is no way back to "normality" for a woman. 

Those numbers is only for women? 

 

I honestly do knot know how many women I had before I met my wife, I know how many women I had before 21, that's it. Did it change me, yes I appreciate monogamous relationships more than being single and having a new girl every now and then.

21 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

Yet another misogynistic thread to enable incel losers to post their uninformed prejudicices.

Incels by definition (involuntary celibate) are not getting any....young guys at home mostly.

 

Entirely different category to expats in Asia...

7 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

That's a bit telling ... no thanks.

 

Wife doesn't drink alcohol at all, though humored me the first couple month, but basically stopped soon after.  As I did also, a couple years later, though only a weekend or monthly warrior myself.  If we have 3 alcohol beverages in a year, that's about our limit.

That's the ideal, 

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I think you're bringing a very puritanical attitude to the table along with a lot of fake polls. You certainly can't expect women to be honest about the number of sexual partners they have, in this day and age a lot of girls in America start having sex at 13, but they don't call it sex because it's anal, and they still consider themselves virgins. But by the time they are in college they've already had a hundred boys. 

 

I think in Thailand if anything the girls might be less promiscuous than in America, if they're not professionals. 

 

A woman who's had over 50 men is not damaged goods on any level. I would not hesitate to go out with or even marry a woman who's had a hundred men, no big deal at all. I don't have double standards when it comes to women and their sexual experience. The last woman in the world I would want to go out with is one who's either a virgin or who has had very little sexual experience. I'll leave that for the fake Puritan Arabs .

I'm just going by professionals words in books they've written after they interviewed hundreds of thousands of women and couples.

 

In counseling, where people go for help, lying or exaggerating isn't going to help you.

 

Thailand is a sex capital, and with this comes promiscuity. Here more than in the US, women will fall for BS readily because with sex might come being provided for. This happens more in poorer countries for obvious reasons. The smarter and more independent a woman is, the less likely she will be promiscuous, especially when she gets past 25. This of course leaves out the ones who have sex for reasons other than love and attraction.

 

If a woman has 100 men by the time she's 40, that means, if she started at 18, that's over 4 a year, one every 3 months, which is a lot more than the average of 7 in a lifetime.

 

Nothing wrong with a virgin, the older the better,which means she isn't going with men until she's sure one will want her for the right things. Sexual experience isn't a prerequisite as anyone can learn to be a good lover. That takes desire and love.

 

The more men a woman has in her life, the less special you will be in her eyes, period. But to each their own. It doesn't bother some men if their wives have done things with a lot of men, many of who could have been dirty slobs with sick minds, which does a number on a woman's psyche.

12 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I could not disagree more adamantly. I think you would be absolutely shocked at the percentage of women that have had a hundred guys, and believe me it's no big deal at all. It's just your puritanical mind that can embrace that concept. 

That would only be an opinion, as no one but their psychologists and counselors would ever know how many any certain woman has been with. People lie. Wanting a woman that hasn't been around, which does hurt their thinking, is a normal thing for most men. Especially those who are looking for a wife and not just sex.

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Those numbers is only for women? 

 

I honestly do knot know how many women I had before I met my wife, I know how many women I had before 21, that's it. Did it change me, yes I appreciate monogamous relationships more than being single and having a new girl every now and then.

I've been with quite a few women but always was looking for a relationship and not just sex. That we didn't match had a number of reasons. I still look at women as individuals and don't compare any to any before, especially seeing I was with quite a few loonies. I'm still hoping for that one special one evan at my age, and will find her someday.

13 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Those numbers is only for women? 

 

I honestly do knot know how many women I had before I met my wife, I know how many women I had before 21, that's it. Did it change me, yes I appreciate monogamous relationships more than being single and having a new girl every now and then.

I had 6 before i met my Thai wife, 2 more in the two weeks before we married, then another 50+ after we were married ..............

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

That would only be an opinion, as no one but their psychologists and counselors would ever know how many any certain woman has been with. People lie. Wanting a woman that hasn't been around, which does hurt their thinking, is a normal thing for most men. Especially those who are looking for a wife and not just sex.

Well of course it's an opinion, 99% of what's on this forum are just opinions. Every time I post something it's just my opinion. I never consider it to be an absolute fact, it's just an opinion. 

 

Most man equate a woman with a lot of sexual experience with someone who is somehow unpure or spoiled goods. I just don't see it like that. But then again I apply the same standards to them as they do to myself, and I've been around, baby. 

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I had 6 before i met my Thai wife, 2 more in the two weeks before we married, then another 50+ after we were married ..............

Why would you chase a woman older than 50 in Thailand of all places ?

3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Well of course it's an opinion, 99% of what's on this forum are just opinions. Every time I post something it's just my opinion. I never consider it to be an absolute fact, it's just an opinion. 

 

Most man equate a woman with a lot of sexual experience with someone who is somehow unpure or spoiled goods. I just don't see it like that. But then again I apply the same standards to them as they do to myself, and I've been around, baby. 

There is a correlation study on number of partners a female has and likelihood of divorce being interlinked..however, was done in the west.

With bargirls and expats in asia its a whole thing in itself...I wonder on longevity stats.

26 minutes ago, Stuck in Thailand said:

Wow, you set of weird, bored oddballs STILL talk about exactly the same things year after year, it never ends.

 

*goes to look for a rope

*Really hope you find one soon.

34 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

girls in America start having sex at 13, but they don't call it sex because it's anal, and they still consider themselves virgins. But by the time they are in college they've already had a hundred boys. 

Er, good point!

18 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I'm just going by professionals words in books they've written after they interviewed hundreds of thousands of women and couples.

 

I have told you a million times before Fred, stop exaggerating.

3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Well of course it's an opinion, 99% of what's on this forum are just opinions. Every time I post something it's just my opinion. I never consider it to be an absolute fact, it's just an opinion. 

 

Most man equate a woman with a lot of sexual experience with someone who is somehow unpure or spoiled goods. I just don't see it like that. But then again I apply the same standards to them as they do to myself, and I've been around, baby. 

I'm thinking 50% or more are factual and not opinions. You see both in any one topic, because some go by what others have told them and some go by research.

 

Men are quite different than women when it comes to sex, although both can enjoy it. Most women , not from a damaged childhood, look for a man that is like their father, especially if he was good to her and her mother. When that is missing, women are fantasizers, forever looking for that perfect man their absent or abusive dad wasn't. They have unrealistic expectations about marriage and will go into it will baggage that will cause troubles.

 

A man can look at a nice body and be gung ho, but a woman usually needs a connection before she gives herself. This of course doesn't include those who will sleep with anyone who has money, or those who are nymphos from brain abnormalities, psychological problems from childhood or some medical conditions.