Just now, scorecard said:

 

Do your own research. 

I have.  And I haven’t found a country yet that needs anything Thailand is selling that they can’t buy elsewhere….for less.

9 minutes ago, Airalee said:

I have.  And I haven’t found a country yet that needs anything Thailand is selling that they can’t buy elsewhere….for less.

80% of the worlds hard drives are made in Thailand and they are losing some sales because of SSD but the market is still very large. around 250 million hard drives each year to the USA .

 

25 minutes ago, jvs said:

80% of the worlds hard drives are made in Thailand and they are losing some sales because of SSD but the market is still very large. around 250 million hard drives each year to the USA .

 

Who (which countries that currently are not buying hard drives from Thailand)  will absorb those 250 million hard drives.

 

Many people are saying “Thailand will just sell to other countries”….but they can’t say which ones.

36%? That's not enough to me, I think Trump should try even harder. Even today, just like last Friday, the Thai Baht keeping to strengthen undaunted vs Euro and British Pound. I know you're only talking about US Dollar here, but I don't give a damn about the Dollar. On the contrary , if we really want to be frank In the 90's on my first arrived in LOS, a dollar was exchanged for 25 baht  currently they give you 32, so I don't understand what you're complaining about. Let's instead take a look at the history of the Euro and the Pound vs Baht

 

11 hours ago, corepuncher said:

Thailands tariffs are mostly 30-50% and 60% on beer.
https://th.usembassy.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/90/Import-Tariff-Table_Thailand-Update-June-2024.pdf

Yes but Thailand also has non-tariff barriers such as ecise charges that further boost the prices e.g. wine

10 hours ago, bstafford214 said:

This is misleading statement.  The current average tariff is only 9% that is imposed on imported US products.  You may have quoted only a specific item that is at this rate.  Also the US already impose a 9% VAT they pay and now the orange baboon wants to add 36%, idiot.

And the non-tariff barriers such as excise?

11 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I am here now and inflation is raging at 20% or higher right now)

US inflation to the end of May 2025 was 2.4%, and the next update is tomorrow, July 15th. So, where are you getting your figures?

Export & Import Quotas and Import Tariffs should NOT have been dropped ages ago , both from the USA and the EU . It has and it still have catastrophic effects on the two economies who left large parts of their industries go to Cina , India and South East Asia . 

I think there should be a commercial agreement between countries where Import & Export should be leveling . You Export 10 billion and you Import 10 billion or what ever agreement between the parties , but not this wild west we got now wich only serves the Emerging Markets .

1 hour ago, Jaggg88 said:

US inflation to the end of May 2025 was 2.4%, and the next update is tomorrow, July 15th. So, where are you getting your figures?

He’s getting his figures from his cut and paste posts that are repeated across multiple….no….many threads.   Much of what he cuts and pastes is copied from news articles, Facebook posts etc….with no attribution of course.  If you think you’re asking a question that will be answered honestly by a person who actually puts some thought and effort into their replies…well…..

 

 

 

@Yagoda  Hilarious eh?

7 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I've been overseas just over 2 years. 

 

Did you stop to think that America's lack of manufacturing capacity would be devastating if SHTF?  There's a reason we were called "The arsenal of democracy" and prevailed in WW2.   It's because we could outproduce the rest of the world combined. 

 

It's more than an economic thing.  It's a national security thing.

 

 

 

So you have no real clue about the inflation thats already happening on top of the impact from covid, not surprised..

 

Its a stupidity thing actually in more ways and people involved.  Do a bit of actual research and think comprehensively.

 

The USA hasnt had a mfr base since the 80's and 90's.   Just a few decades now and even longer for wwII.  We had the infrastructure in place and willingness back then.  Its been gone a long time. Try and stay current 

23 minutes ago, Airalee said:

He’s getting his figures from his cut and paste posts that are repeated across multiple….no….many threads.   Much of what he cuts and pastes is copied from news articles, Facebook posts etc….with no attribution of course.  If you think you’re asking a question that will be answered honestly by a person who actually puts some thought and effort into their replies…well…..

 

 

 

@Yagoda  Hilarious eh?

Dude thats amazing. You just hit him like an IDF F35 flying over an Iranian S400 SAM battery.

 

He has no shame, he will be back. The 40 year war with Donald must continue, its his life.

17 minutes ago, Dan O said:

So you have no real clue about the inflation thats already happening on top of the impact from covid, not surprise

Tell us

 

18 minutes ago, Dan O said:

We had the infrastructure in place and willingness back then.  Its been gone a long time.

Spoken like a non American.

 

In my social and cultural milieu, its go-go-go

14 hours ago, Card said:

Jeez. What real people said wasn't that it couldn't happen, but it wouldn't be the Chinese exporters who pay for it but the American consumer. That HAS happened.

 

What has also happened is that a lot of the crap stuff people used to buy, they aren't just asking TEEMU and SHEIN.

 

As to why he is doing it 

 

consider the amount of duty on booze 20-40 on beer  30-40 everything else

cigarettes 60-90% 

cars 30-50%

 

While it is not just U'S' products it still hurts.  The difference is that Trump has said enough. Tell me that the Aussies and other western countries would not love to see Thailand lower its duties and will follow through with their own demands if Thailand lowers the duties for American products.

 

https://www.tmathaigroup.com/blogeng/index.php/post/34.html

I can’t see that the general population can do much with regard to tariffs. That’s what a government is elected to do. 
 

Whether the government make a good job of negotiations is another matter.

4 hours ago, Airalee said:

I have.  And I haven’t found a country yet that needs anything Thailand is selling that they can’t buy elsewhere….for less.

Rice? Just speculating, I don’t know for sure

Just now, wensiensheng said:

Rice? Just speculating, I don’t know for sure

From what I understand, Vietnam recently (in the last couple years) won the “worlds best rice” medal knocking the Thai Hom Mali rice off it’s pedestal.

 

And the people who import the rice…..do they need more?   One can only eat so much.

 

And like I have asked before…..which countries would fill the supposed void?

4 hours ago, Airalee said:

Who (which countries that currently are not buying hard drives from Thailand)  will absorb those 250 million hard drives.

 

Many people are saying “Thailand will just sell to other countries”….but they can’t say which ones.

 

The question should be where the Americans will get their hard drives in the future, since the US doesn't produce any, and 80% of hard drives are produced in Asia by US companies.

5 minutes ago, Airalee said:

From what I understand, Vietnam recently (in the last couple years) won the “worlds best rice” medal knocking the Thai Hom Mali rice off it’s pedestal.

 

And the people who import the rice…..do they need more?   One can only eat so much.

 

And like I have asked before…..which countries would fill the supposed void?

From what I understand, a lot of Thai rice is shipped to the Middle East. In fact I THINK I am right in saying that there was a big curfuffle a few years ago because a certain middle eastern conglomerate was buying up big rice fields north of Bangkok.

 

But you are right of course, other countries produce rice and the US tariffs wouldn’t effect rice sales to ME

7 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

The question should be where the Americans will get their hard drives in the future, since the US doesn't produce any, and 80% of hard drives are produced in Asia by US companies.

That’s a good question.  There do seem to be a number of different countries that supply the US.  Perhaps they might increase production or maybe even some other countries will find it to be profitable to make them.

 

It will be interesting to see what Thailand ultimately brings to the negotiating table.

 

For myself, I’d love to see a deal where somehow Medicare is finagled into it and can be extended to Thailand so that the US expats who are over 65 can have a little bit of financial relief and get their healthcare here.  Of course, that alone is a complex issue.

2 minutes ago, Airalee said:

That’s a good question.  There do seem to be a number of different countries that supply the US.  Perhaps they might increase production or maybe even some other countries will find it to be profitable to make them.

 

This is what AI tells me, and all those countries got tariffs slapped on them by Trump.

 

Assembly:

The final assembly of HDDs is largely done in Asia, specifically in countries like Malaysia, Thailand, and the Philippines. 

6 minutes ago, Airalee said:

For myself, I’d love to see a deal where somehow Medicare is finagled into it and can be extended to Thailand so that the US expats who are over 65 can have a little bit of financial relief and get their healthcare here.  Of course, that alone is a complex issue.

 

Millions of Americans living in the US will lose access to Medicare in the future due to Trump's big ugly bill.

 

But like a real MAGA member you again only care about your own

11 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

From what I understand, a lot of Thai rice is shipped to the Middle East. In fact I THINK I am right in saying that there was a big curfuffle a few years ago because a certain middle eastern conglomerate was buying up big rice fields north of Bangkok.

 

But you are right of course, other countries produce rice and the US tariffs wouldn’t effect rice sales to ME

I didn’t realize that ME conglomerates were buying up agricultural land (or trying to….did they succeed?).  Thailand (or any other country) would be foolish to sell off assets like that.   Should just stick with condos for retirees.

Just now, CallumWK said:

 

Millions of Americans living in the US will lose access to Medicare in the future due to Trump's big ugly bill.

 

But like a real MAGA member you again only think about your own

I didn’t vote for Trump.   I don’t subscribe the “vote for the least worst” candidate.  And with regards to only thinking about my own….I’m far from Medicare age.   I was thinking about the forum geriatrics.

 

But hey….you do you and keep being a leftist.

6 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

This is what AI tells me, and all those countries got tariffs slapped on them by Trump.

 

Assembly:

The final assembly of HDDs is largely done in Asia, specifically in countries like Malaysia, Thailand, and the Philippines. 

 

Philippines only got hit with 20%.   US seems to like them.  That’s why we import a huge amount of nurses from there.

Thailand will take a hit, but it will survive and has a much better footing than many  of the other countries.  The USA cannot easily replace Thailand's latex. The small appliances and machinery made in Thailand have a market because Thailand can do it cost effectively and has the skilled workforce and machinery able to make the products. If the USA could have sourced the  products elsewhere for less cost, it would have done so long ago.  People still need to eat, and there are food shortages worldwide. The US hospitality industry would experience hardship without the low cost Thai sourced seafood and rice products, The alternative to Thailand is China and I don't see the USA wanting more Chinese products.

 

16 hours ago, thesetat said:

For the time being, Trump is being strict about using imports to Vietnam being repacked and relabeled and sent to the USA under the guise of being made in Vietnam. I would think that the US would also implement this policy with Thailand as well. It is too easy for Asian countries to get Chinese goods and repack them claiming to be made in their country. Also, depending on the size of the tariff, it may not be worthwhile to do this and there may be an inability to profit from it. 

 

Does Thailand actually repack Chinese  products as Thai sourced? I don't believe  that is done for the US market. Do you have any examples?

 

14 hours ago, impulse said:

That's good info, but all I see is food.  How about the 80% tariff on cars, added to the other fees that basically triple the landed cost of a US car into Thailand?

 

Does the USA  have the capacity to export vehicles to Thailand, and are the models that would be built in the USA  desired in the Thai market? Even without tariffs, the US  vehicles are not cost competitive nor  an appropriate fit for the  Thai market.  Where would you park a Ford explorer? I have not purchased a US brand or manufactured vehicle since I had a dud of a Chevy pickup in my youth. Worst fit & finish, and full of defects. I swore of all US vehicles. No one in my family has purchased a US  brand auto since I was a kid. I doubt that a US manufactured vehicle will sell well in Thailand. Built locally, yes, imports, no.

 

5 hours ago, Airalee said:

I have.  And I haven’t found a country yet that needs anything Thailand is selling that they can’t buy elsewhere….for less.

 

If that is the case, why has it not been done?

 

 

1 hour ago, Airalee said:

He’s getting his figures from his cut and paste posts that are repeated across multiple….no….many threads.   Much of what he cuts and pastes is copied from news articles, Facebook posts etc….with no attribution of course.  If you think you’re asking a question that will be answered honestly by a person who actually puts some thought and effort into their replies…well…..

 

That's a lot of work that you invested into that project. Perhaps, he is  just being efficient, since no one reads long posts here.

8 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Philippines only got hit with 20%.   US seems to like them.  That’s why we import a huge amount of nurses from there.

 

I don't think there are any tariffs on human beings, but regarding HDD, you may want to have a read below, and that article was published even before the mad man went completely out of order.

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I found an article somewhere that years ago there were more than 200 companies manufacturing HDD's in the US, but now there is none as they either went bankrupt or moved to lower cost countries.

 

 

https://horizontechnology.com/news/hard-disk-drives-and-the-trump-tariffs/

15 minutes ago, Airalee said:

That’s a good question.  There do seem to be a number of different countries that supply the US.  Perhaps they might increase production or maybe even some other countries will find it to be profitable to make them.

 

It will be interesting to see what Thailand ultimately brings to the negotiating table.

 

For myself, I’d love to see a deal where somehow Medicare is finagled into it and can be extended to Thailand so that the US expats who are over 65 can have a little bit of financial relief and get their healthcare here.  Of course, that alone is a complex issue.

 

Like wow. Now you want access to the social benefits pool. The double standard is astounding. You want the US taxpayers to give money to residents of Thailand, so that they can spend the  money on goods and services in Thailand?????  Meanwhile you are demanding more tariffs on foreign sourced goods. Do you not see the incompatibility of those two positions?

 

Team Trump's plans will result in a cut to federal spending on Medicaid and Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) benefits by an estimated $1.02 trillion, and will come in large part by eliminating at least 10.5 million people from the programs by 2034, and now you want residents of Thailand to be added? US nationals spending in the USA, impoverished children, get cut off, while well fed US nationals living the good life on the beach in Thailand, spending on Thai goods and services should be be added? Sure thing. 😆🤣😂   Are you a graduate of the Snidely Whiplash school for Villians?

4 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

If the USA could have sourced the  products elsewhere for less cost, it would have done so long ago.

The new tariffs will certainly have companies looking into that.  Hasn’t Japan been relocating factories over the last number of years?  Thailand was already pricing itself out of the market.  Seems like people will now explore other options.

 

6 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

The US hospitality industry would experience hardship without the low cost Thai sourced seafood and rice products

The US is a rice exporter.  They just might have to export less.  Whoever bought it before can then buy from Thailand.  Can also import from Vietnam too.

 

WRT shrimp and seafood….I’m sure that can be sourced elsewhere with the Thai shrimping industry (with the stories of the Burmese labor) cast in a negative light.   

10 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Does the USA  have the capacity to export vehicles to Thailand, and are the models that would be built in the USA  desired in the Thai market?

I’d bet that the big V8 trucks (F150, Ram, etc) would sell well here.  Perhaps some SUVs.   Maybe the Corvette, Camaro and Mustang too.  Most other US vehicles (sedans and such) are very meh..   Some models are already produced with RHD and for the ones that aren’t, there are conversion companies (convert cars for other countries) that are based in Thailand.  
 

Sounds like a win win.

 

15 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

That's a lot of work that you invested into that project. Perhaps, he is  just being efficient, since no one reads long posts here.

 

Copying other people stuff without attribution and posting the same rants over and over is “efficient”?  Hardly.  I’m far from the only person who points it out.

8 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Like wow. Now you want access to the social benefits pool. The double standard is astounding. You want the US taxpayers to give money to residents of Thailand, so that they can spend the  money on goods and services in Thailand?????  Meanwhile you are demanding more tariffs on foreign sourced goods. Do you not see the incompatibility of those two positions?

Like wow….I have no position on the tariffs.  Just interested in the outcome from an educational standpoint.   But it’s quite funny how leftists such as yourself like to try to paint everybody into a corner.   Do I need to remind you too that I have never voted R?
 

Appealing to emotion won’t work on me.   That “do it for the children” card was overplayed during covid.  Nice try though.

 

 

1 minute ago, Airalee said:

Like wow….I have no position on the tariffs.  Just interested in the outcome from an educational standpoint.   But it’s quite funny how leftists such as yourself like to try to paint everybody into a corner.   Do I need to remind you too that I have never voted R?
 

Appealing to emotion won’t work on me.   That “do it for the children” card was overplayed during covid.  Nice try though.

 

 

Ahh yes, the fall back option of attaching  the leftist label, and then following it up with nonsensical verbal diarrhea.

I am not appealing to emotion, just pointing out that your positions are hypocritical and even self serving. You are all for tariffs under the  mistaken notion that they will miraculously build the USA, while  wanting more social benefits that can be spent on foreign goods and service providers. And you label anyone who points out the hypocrisy, a leftist.