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Will the Epstein saga tear MAGA apart?

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22 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

I think a majority of the MAGA base will stick with trump. Even if it is well-documented (including photos) that trump is a pedo, they will support him. At this point, even a pee tape could be rationalized. MAGA is a cult, and cults rarely stop worshiping their leader, unless after a Kool-Aid/Waco event.

 

trump's lengthy screed seems to be an attempt to frame the Epstein Files as an attempt by his enemies to bring him down. Almost as if he knows they will be leaked, and in order to discreit them.

 

 

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114842356238631061

 

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

What’s going on with my “boys” and, in some cases, “gals?” They’re all going after Attorney General Pam Bondi, who is doing a FANTASTIC JOB! We’re on one Team, MAGA, and I don’t like what’s happening. We have a PERFECT Administration, THE TALK OF THE WORLD, and “selfish people” are trying to hurt it, all over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein. For years, it’s Epstein, over and over again. Why are we giving publicity to Files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden Administration, who conned the World with the Russia, Russia, Russia Hoax, 51 “Intelligence” Agents, “THE LAPTOP FROM HELL,” and more? They created the Epstein Files, just like they created the FAKE Hillary Clinton/Christopher Steele Dossier that they used on me, and now my so-called “friends” are playing right into their hands. Why didn’t these Radical Left Lunatics release the Epstein Files? If there was ANYTHING in there that could have hurt the MAGA Movement, why didn’t they use it? They haven’t even given up on the John F. Kennedy or Martin Luther King, Jr. Files. No matter how much success we have had, securing the Border, deporting Criminals, fixing the Economy, Energy Dominance, a Safer World where Iran will not have Nuclear Weapons, it’s never enough for some people. We are about to achieve more in 6 months than any other Administration has achieved in over 100 years, and we have so much more to do. We are saving our Country and, MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, which will continue to be our complete PRIORITY. The Left is imploding! Kash Patel, and the FBI, must be focused on investigating Voter Fraud, Political Corruption, ActBlue, The Rigged and Stolen Election of 2020, and arresting Thugs and Criminals, instead of spending month after month looking at nothing but the same old, Radical Left inspired Documents on Jeffrey Epstein. LET PAM BONDI DO HER JOB — SHE’S GREAT! The 2020 Election was Rigged and Stolen, and they tried to do the same thing in 2024 — That’s what she is looking into as AG, and much more. One year ago our Country was DEAD, now it’s the “HOTTEST” Country anywhere in the World. Let’s keep it that way, and not waste Time and Energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

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Your derangement of trump allows you to believe every negative story you hear without question.

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29 minutes ago, Wingate said:

You're obsessed and wasting your life, but he's here endlessly bird dogging you?

 

Methinks the lady (KhaoHom) doth protest too much.

 

I'm not bird dogging. I don't even visit the political soapbox sub forum. I just see all the tripe constantly pop up in the bottom of the thread I am reading. CONSTANTLY

 

They're always really stupid open-ended questions.

 

This man as the entire shi+lib crew has no life.

12 hours ago, bubblegum said:

Nothing to say on topic so why bother to post? You feel you're important?

 

Good ole Bill

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5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

i think it also highlights that there is infact a 'deep State'

 

It sounds like you were in doubt about the existence of "The Deep State" until last weekend?

 

 

You all are really going to have something to whine about when the grand conspiracy drops 🤣🤣

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Just now, EVENKEEL said:

 

Good ole Bill

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Bill was guilty as sin. So was Don, Andrew, Gates, and countless others. There is a massive cover up going on, and guess who is leading and supporting it? The guilty man himself. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

 

It sounds like you were in doubt about the existence of "The Deep State" until last weekend?

 

 

Its been talked about  for years by the likes of Alex Jones,  if you have a logical brain and follow non MSM for news you hear about it often.

I will hazard a guess you called Alex Jones a conspiracy theorist.

 

However, who was it that denied the deep state existed once Trump openly said it??.. yes thats right Democrats and all you Trump haters.

 

But Now, right on queue you all flip on your previous stance of denial to acceptance, purely because you now say Trump is controlled by 'them'

 

Immigration policy was hard to understand. Yes, Obama kicked out a lot of people but things seemed to get worse.   Trump was "fresh" and not 100 years old.  He's not the best, but way better than Biden or Clinton.   Corruption is everywhere.  I voted for Trump.  I like what he did with immigration and overhauling a very bloated government.  Tariffs are fine, perhaps a little overboard.  That's fine. Alpha stuff.  

 

However, children TRUMP (pun intended) everything.  If you sexually exploit children you're finished as a human. So now we have to figure out who will take the fall.

 

My gut says Trump didn't have sex with underage kids, but he's still guilty by association and maybe he complicit in certain crimes.   It's going to be terrible.  The question is, How terrible for him?

 

I don't think this will destroy MAGA, but it will (hopefully) destroy hundreds or thousands of horrible human beings.  If Trump is one of them, fine, so be it.   My feeling is there will be lots of Dems, Reps, global dignitaries, etc, etc... and maybe Rubio or someone else just becomes the head of the snake.  Maybe JD.  

 

Protect children at all costs.  

 

 

13 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Bill was guilty as sin. So was Don, Andrew, Gates, and countless others. There is a massive cover up going on, and guess who is leading and supporting it? The guilty man himself. 

 

 

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But there wasnt a cover up 20-24 right, only now, those 4 years your side hardly mentioned Epstein, no media coverage, very little coverage of Maxwell case, but but Trump.

 

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5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

I will hazard a guess you called Alex Jones a conspiracy theorist.

 

 

That wasn't me.

 

It was a Connecticut Jury.

 

1 minute ago, bamnutsak said:

 

That wasn't me.

 

It was a Connecticut Jury.

 

Sandy hook is not related to Epstein, but guaranteed you were a deep state denier, but have switched stances since last week, right around the time of Bondis announcement.

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1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

Its been talked about  for years by the likes of Alex Jones,  if you have a logical brain and follow non MSM for news you hear about it often.

I will hazard a guess you called Alex Jones a conspiracy theorist.

 

However, who was it that denied the deep state existed once Trump openly said it??.. yes thats right Democrats and all you Trump haters.

 

But Now, right on queue you all flip on your previous stance of denial to acceptance, purely because you now say Trump is controlled by 'them'

 

Of course he's controlled by the Deep State, the Deep State is non-partisan, all they care about is money and power. He He their puppet. 

Just now, spidermike007 said:

Of course he's controlled by the Deep State, the Deep State is non-partisan, all they care about is money and power. He He their puppet. 

Who do you think the deep state is, CIA or Israeli influenced, bankers etc etc?

4 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

 

No. MAGA screamed to have all the Epstein files declassified and released. 47 threw them red meat by the bucket-load while running for office, promising he would give them what they demanded. Now MAGA wants that promise kept.

 

You are posting classic deflection.

 

"Nothing to see here, move along."

There is no deflection. There are no files of relevance  to declassify. There was no conspiracy.

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3 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

There is no deflection. There are no files of relevance  to declassify. There was no conspiracy.

 

Unless you can prove that, it is nothing but blather.

 

Pam Bondi told the WORLD that the list was on her desk. The felon prez himself said he would release the info. Perish the thought, you're not claiming they LIED, are you?!?!?

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1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

Who do you think the deep state is, CIA or Israeli influenced, bankers etc etc?

I honestly don't know, but they are likely a cabal of some of the world's richest people, and there's no question about the fact that Biden, Trump and all those other fools do not make the decisions. 

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2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Who do you think the deep state is, CIA or Israeli influenced, bankers etc etc?

Goodness, fella. Put down whatever it is you're smoking, and give a shot at accessing reality. No visa required.

 

Yes, I'm a "Deep State" denier. Not only that, I know that anyone who uses that term in any way except as a joke, is somewhere between woefully naive and batsh!t crazy.

 

To believe in something so farcical is indicative of a person who convinces himself he is "aware" because he did "research".

 

No, you just have Dunning-Kreuger and think you're more aware than you are.

 

Grown ups know that the absurdity lunatics call "Deep State" is impossible in a world with so many different variables and so many competing forces.

 

Now if you need a "Deep State" to make you feel better about the way your life has turned out (nothing is your fault, but the Deep State kept you down), then knock yourself silly.

2 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Goodness, fella. Put down whatever it is you're smoking, and give a shot at accessing reality. No visa required.

 

Yes, I'm a "Deep State" denier. Not only that, I know that anyone who uses that term in any way except as a joke, is somewhere between woefully naive and batsh!t crazy.

 

To believe in something so farcical is indicative of a person who convinces himself he is "aware" because he did "research".

 

No, you just have Dunning-Kreuger and think you're more aware than you are.

 

Grown ups know that the absurdity lunatics call "Deep State" is impossible in a world with so many different variables and so many competing forces.

 

Now if you need a "Deep State" to make you feel better about the way your life has turned out (nothing is your fault, but the Deep State kept you down), then knock yourself silly.

Jeez, talk about gullible. Hard to believe someone it this day and age would write something so idiotic.

I expect you still believe there were WMD's.

6 hours ago, KhaoHom said:

Trump was on videotape years back with Jeffrey Epstein, professing their love for each other, the closeness of their friendship, and with Trump saying how terrific a guy he was,

Trump says that about everybody until he falls out with them.

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Why has the subject been deflected to the Deep State?

 

We are discussing a man who was known to like young girls, alongside a woman who helped him to procure them.

That being known, many shall we say, well known people, chose to associate with him. 

We know about large amounts of money transferred, according to the Pandora Papers.

 

But what we get is that there is nothing to see here?  

 

It's not that I need to know, but we understand that there are reasons for the cover up. There IS a cover up. Of that there is little doubt.

 

Don't allow your loser hater affliction to distract you from Trumps designed head imploding words, but do watch what he does. People (brainwashed Trump hating democrat sheep) are far to bugged out to figure out much of anything these days.

 

 

9 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Don't allow your loser hater affliction to distract you from Trumps designed head imploding words, but do watch what he does. People (brainwashed Trump hating democrat sheep) are far to bugged out to figure out much of anything these days.

 

 

about them sheep.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Don't allow your loser hater affliction to distract you from Trumps designed head imploding words, but do watch what he does. People (brainwashed Trump hating democrat sheep) are far to bugged out to figure out much of anything these days.

 

 

 

Oh, look who's waddling to the rescue!😄

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GOP vote against releasing the files. Wonder why.

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