1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Release the hostages or keep dying. 

They don’t care about the hostages, are you really that naive?

Just now, Yagoda said:

Thanks for outing LOL. 

Outing what?

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Release the hostages or keep dying. 

You're so brave and fearless with other people's lives my suggestion to you is get yourself over to any Arab nation and tell them to there face I think you owe it to yourself you will feel much better. 

And I for one would think so much more of you.

Perhaps take a vote 

3 minutes ago, JimCM said:

They don’t care about the hostages, are you really that naive?

OK just keep dying, no mind, revenge is cool.

Just now, Dave0206 said:

You're so brave and fearless with other people's lives my suggestion to you is get yourself over to any Arab nation and tell them to there face I think you owe it to yourself you will feel much better. 

And I for one would think so much more of you.

Perhaps take a vote 

No, the Israelis take care of our light work. Its just they are so damn slow about their genocide. Should have been done already. Hell, the German could take care of that in a few days. Treat the hostages as dead, nuke the whole place and build parking lots I say.

So much for your blood libels, Kamerads

https://nypost.com/2025/08/26/world-news/idf-says-deadly-attack-on-gaza-hospital-was-targeting-a-hamas-surveillance-camera/

2 hours ago, JimCM said:

They don’t care about the hostages, are you really that naive?

 

  The price for securing the hostages release is a price too hight to pay 

Lets not forget that one of the main people who organised the Oct 7 th terror attack was a former prisoner in Israel jailed for numerous murders who was released back to Hamas  in a previous hostage/prisoner exchange 

8 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

1. The definition of military target is set out in international law. we have already had this discussion previously. You can start with Protocol 1 of the Geneva Convention (1977 ver.) Protocol 1 defines a military objective as an object which, by its nature, location, purpose, or use, makes an effective contribution to military action and whose total or partial destruction, capture, or neutralization, in the circumstances ruling at the time, offers a definite military advantage.

 

2. If the "hospital" hosted Hamas or other militant meetings, served as a logistics center, munitions depot or convenient  place of refuge for militants, it becomes a legitimate target.  The images of tunnels, munitions supplies, computer and data centers used by Hamas was previously demonstrated in other  "civilian" purpose  buildings including hospitals.

The strike on the building was not broad and was specific to one area. This is a condition of targeting a civilian declared property that is being used for military purposes.

 

3. Why were so many "journalists" on one floor? What event was going on. to date, no one has asked or explained why so many "journalists" were in the area that was hit. It has already been established that Hamas fighters are often described as "journalists". It provides excellent cover for militants to move around. Gaza has a large  number of individuals who are not actually employees of news organizations, but who make submissions as "independent stringers".

When is a journalist a journalist and not a member of the Hamas propaganda  unit tasked with spreading the Hamas political line? Can you guarantee that the dead are indeed not Hamas affiliated?

 

Ideally, a hospital should be used as a hospital and not as a work space for people who identify as a journalists. If the premises are damaged in a war, is it reasonable to present the building as a hospital if it was not actually a hospital. In previous weeks the facility was described as closed and the shortage of medical staff and supplies was blamed. In June, it ceased functioning as a hospital when the competing Gaza factions used it as a confrontation point and turned the building into a battle zone.  and And yet, on the day of the attack it is described as a hospital. That's quite a miraculous turnaround. Where did all the  supplies come from if there are allegedly no medical supplies entering Gaza as Hamas and its supporters claim.

 

1. International law states attacks on hospitals are a war crime.

 

2. If?

 

3. Journalists gathering is not reason for a military attack, the targeting of journalist, like all other civilians is a war crime.

 

This was a ‘Double Tap’ attack.

 

It was not an accident, not a mishap.

 

 

On 8/25/2025 at 4:35 PM, proton said:

Aj Jazeera 'journalists' again! Avoidable if Hamas surrendered and released the hostages they have not murdered. 

Nonsense.

The plan of the murderous genociders was to kill the truth.

Therefore the journalists had to die.

Not the first time actually.

Israel is the evil of the world, surrounded by millions of Muslims. Time will tell.

12 hours ago, Screaming said:

No big deal, that is the cost of supporting the terrorists. 

Typical Trump attitude. Does he really give a ****. After all the Palestinians are only untermensch.

12 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

Which part of 'hospital' did you miss? Also, they are all Gaza natives (journalists) because Israel won't allow foreign journalists in - not to mention barring food to ease the Israeli-inflicted famine - so I guess they didn't have much choice but to be in Gaza, now did they.

snip from the post.

 

"Which part of 'hospital' did you miss". The IDF didn't miss the hospital though.

11 hours ago, bannork said:

What does Israel say?

 

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) initially confirmed it carried out a strike in the area of Nasser Hospital in southern Gaza.

Throughout the day, Israeli officials issued multiple statements with little information in them, indicating a lack of clarity within the military about the attack but designed to address widespread outrage.

 

On Monday evening, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office said Israel "deeply regrets the tragic mishap that occurred today at the Nasser Hospital in Gaza", adding that Israel "values the work of journalists, medical staff, and all civilians" and saying the military was conducting a "thorough investigation".

 

However, the statement does little to address the apparent "double-tap" nature of the attack. The fact that most of those who were killed were struck by the second attack at precisely the same location around 10 minutes later appears clearly intentional.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c80d2zrdj7vo

What did Israel relly say?

 

blah, blah, blah.

Which if it is interpreted correctly comes out as we don't care in the slightest.

10 hours ago, Yagoda said:

So much for your blood libels, Kamerads

https://nypost.com/2025/08/26/world-news/idf-says-deadly-attack-on-gaza-hospital-was-targeting-a-hamas-surveillance-camera/

This time the reason was a Hamas camera, next bombing will be because IDF saw a bird with Hamas painted on the wings.

The UN has said "there needs to be justice" following Israel's double strike on a Gaza hospital which killed at least 20 people, as an initial Israeli military probe said the strike had targeted a "camera positioned by Hamas".

 

Condemnation of the attack, whose victims included five journalists and four health workers, has been mounting, with UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer describing it as "completely indefensible".

 

Later on Tuesday the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) released its initial inquiry, which identified several "gaps" for further investigation.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd6n97gj1nqo

5 minutes ago, bannork said:

with UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer describing it as "completely indefensible".

A few here are trying to defend the indefensible.

7 hours ago, chercheur888 said:

This time the reason was a Hamas camera, next bombing will be because IDF saw a bird with Hamas painted on the wings.

Sounds like a good reason, better keep your kids away from the birds, or if you dont, just take the AK away when the photographers get there.

 

That way you can claim that little Mahmood, who spent last week learning IEDs and chanting that Jews have horns and tails, is just an "innocent" victim.

19 hours ago, JimCM said:

You are so wrong in many areas. My words would be wasted, you foolishly believe Israel propaganda.

The claims come from Gaza, not Israel.

Do you deny that Hamas and western supporters claimed that the  hospital facility closed last June after it was the site of a fierce fire fight between Gaza and other Gazan factions?

Do you deny that Hamas and its western supporters have claimed that hospitals cannot function because there are no medical supplies?

Do you deny that Hamas used the premises for its activities?

12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

1. International law states attacks on hospitals are a war crime.

 

2. If?

 

3. Journalists gathering is not reason for a military attack, the targeting of journalist, like all other civilians is a war crime.

 

This was a ‘Double Tap’ attack.

 

It was not an accident, not a mishap.

 

 

 

1. You are assuming the  building was a hospital and not a building that also had a military purpose. International law allows for the portion of the structure used for military purposes to be treated as a legitimate target.

You are also ignoring the past claims that the  hospital was the site of a  violent  firefight between  Gazan military factions and was closed  last June. You are also ignoring claims that hospitals in Gaza  can not function  because of the lack of supplies and health professional. Which claim is untrue? The lack of supplies? That the facility did not host Hamas military personnel?

 

2. My use of the  word "if" was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Your position  then is that Hamas did not use the premises for  military purposes.  It has been established that Hamas located its  command  centers in hospitals and that it regularly used them for  cover of its operations. Do you deny this?

 

3. Is it a hospital or a "media center"?  The use of the term journalists is a generous approach since the most popular cover for militants is that of  journalist or health worker.

 

4. It was not a double tap. It was a continued  targeting of a Hamas position.  Because  some media sources keep repeating the  description does not make it  so. It is a common occurrence for there to be multiple strikes on a  fortified  structure. Ordinance is not always accurate. The first shell is sent. Then, once the  dust settles, a damage assessment is made. If the  target is not eliminated, another shell is dispatched.

 

It is unfortunate that Hamas uses civilian structures for military purposes. This is why they are neutralized.

 

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Sounds like a good reason, better keep your kids away from the birds, or if you dont, just take the AK away when the photographers get there.

 

That way you can claim that little Mahmood, who spent last week learning IEDs and chanting that Jews have horns and tails, is just an "innocent" victim.

This is extremely offensive.

41 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

The claims come from Gaza, not Israel.

Do you deny that Hamas and western supporters claimed that the  hospital facility closed last June after it was the site of a fierce fire fight between Gaza and other Gazan factions?

Do you deny that Hamas and its western supporters have claimed that hospitals cannot function because there are no medical supplies?

Do you deny that Hamas used the premises for its activities?

These are baseless accusations by Israel, a terrorist state repeatedly caught lying to justify its crimes.

Hospital closure claim: A complete fabrication. Nasser Hospital never “closed” because of some so-called firefight between factions. That’s an Israeli invention, repeated to confuse the public.

Medical supplies claim: The reason hospitals lack supplies is Israel’s own blockade and constant targeting of infrastructure. Everyone knows this. To twist it into a Hamas “excuse” is dishonest and insulting.

Hamas activity claim: Yet again, Israel offers no proof - only propaganda. If they had real evidence, they would show it. Instead, they rely on repetition and smears, because facts are not on their side.

These are lies designed to cover up Israel’s deliberate destruction of Gaza’s health system. 

43 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

My use of the  word "if" was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Your position  then is that Hamas did not use the premises for  military purposes.  It has been established that Hamas located its  command  centers in hospitals and that it regularly used them for  cover of its operations. Do you deny this?

Before and after the siege, the Israeli government engaged in a public relations campaign aimed at justifying its siege and takeover of the hospital.^[88] On 11 November, the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs tweeted a video purportedly of a nurse at al-Shifa in which she backs up Israeli claims of Hamas usage of the hospital. The Nation described the campaign as propaganda, and stated that the video was widely mocked, with many Arabs questioning its authenticity, and the ministry deleting the tweet in a day.^[89] The Daily Beast, remarking on the video, said "Everything about it smacked of high school theater—from the botched accent that sounded like it was straight out of an Israeli soap opera to the perfectly scripted IDF talking points rolling off her tongue."^[90] France 24 found the video to likely be staged.^[91]

 

^{https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alleged_military_use_of_al-Shifa_hospital}

46 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

It is unfortunate that Hamas uses civilian structures for military purposes. This is why they are neutralized.

Please show proof of this claim, and not from Israel or USA sources who are obviously biased.

Remember this Israeli lie?

 

19 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Please show proof of this claim, and not from Israel or USA sources who are obviously biased.

Remember this Israeli lie?

 

 

   Move on, '

That was posted and discusses at the time 2 years ago .

You  keep going on about things that have happened a few years ago.

Keep it relevant, keep it up to date .

Stop reposting old stories 

 

38 minutes ago, JimCM said:

This is extremely offensive.

So is the truth to  terrorist supporting, USA haters, and jew hating trolls

3 hours ago, JimCM said:

 

These are baseless accusations by Israel, a terrorist state repeatedly caught lying to justify its crimes.

Hospital closure claim: A complete fabrication. Nasser Hospital never “closed” because of some so-called firefight between factions. That’s an Israeli invention, repeated to confuse the public.

Medical supplies claim: The reason hospitals lack supplies is Israel’s own blockade and constant targeting of infrastructure. Everyone knows this. To twist it into a Hamas “excuse” is dishonest and insulting.

Hamas activity claim: Yet again, Israel offers no proof - only propaganda. If they had real evidence, they would show it. Instead, they rely on repetition and smears, because facts are not on their side.

These are lies designed to cover up Israel’s deliberate destruction of Gaza’s health system. 

 

The only  baseless activity here  comes from you. You keep creating new identities  to plaster the threads with your Hamas propaganda. What inspired you to create your new identity?

3 hours ago, JimCM said:

This is extremely offensive.

 

What's offensive is your constant creation of names with which you post your copy and paste Hamas propaganda.

On 8/27/2025 at 8:52 PM, JimCM said:

Please show proof of this claim, and not from Israel or USA sources who are obviously biased.

Remember this Israeli lie?

 

@Patong2021

So you have no proof , only baseless accusations as you fall for Israel lies.

31 minutes ago, JimCM said:

@Patong2021

So you have no proof , only baseless accusations as you fall for Israel lies.

Oh yes, I am a puppet of the big israeli conspiracy. 

What I would really like to know is why the urge to create multiple identities and to post the same  content over and over again.

It is not as if you will change anyone's position. Nor is it because you have a genuine concern, because if you did you would be more vociferous in respect to the Yemen war or the mass murder of Africans in Darfur. Is there any chance that you do not like non muslim Africans?

1 hour ago, JimCM said:

@Patong2021

So you have no proof , only baseless accusations as you fall for Israel lies.

 

   Take to the thread where it was discussed two years ago , when the video was published 

It's part of Israel's mission to silence Palestinian newsgathering and to control what information the rest of the world receives from the war zone, said independent Israeli-Palestine media outlet +972 Magazine.

 

According to +972, the Israeli military established a special unit called the Legitimisation Cell after the 7 October attacks, and tasked it with gathering intelligence that would burnish Israel's international reputation. It was also told to identify Gaza-based journalists that it could present to the world as undercover Hamas operatives.

 

One high-profile journalist targeted in this way was Al Jazeera reporter Anas Al-Sharif, who was killed along with four colleagues in an Israeli airstrike earlier this month. After his death, the Israeli army quickly circulated documents claiming he had been a Hamas operative since 2013. "Yet even if taken at face value, the files showed his last contact with Hamas was in 2017 – years before the current war," said France 24.

 

How Israel's 'Legitimisation Cell' is justifying journalist killings in Gaza

 

Al Jazeera reporter Anas Al-Sharif, killed in an Israeli airstrike this month: after this death, the IDF said he was a Hamas operative