45 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Top marks to Red once again.

 

When are people gonna wake up? There was/is no evidence the covid-19 virus ever existed/ing; except in a computer programme. The 2019 pandemic was a carefully planned fraudulent hoax. RIP Kary. They were waiting for you to go to set the scam into motion.

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

You better hurry up and produce more drivel.... you've fallen behind RP in the race to the bottom of the human race barrel.  You two create the trashiest feedback loop.

2 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

You two create the trashiest feedback loop.

And you offer nothing but insults and derision..to poeple who are trying to pass along  information.

1 hour ago, transam said:

Yeh, riiiiiiiiiiight............🤣

You are entitled to wallow in your ignorance.

10 minutes ago, johng said:

You are entitled to wallow in your ignorance.

Weeeeeeeeell, I was, and always have thought the same about you, but I don't need to tell you on here.........🤗

This mental illness originates in the unseen realm.  The mentally ill simpletons who mutilate their body by injecting poison in the name of health have adopted the wrong belief system.  The same poisonous belief system that has been plaguing humanity for thousands of years is at play here.

 

To overcome the religion of poison, the implementation of a new belief system is required.  A good starting point is the most read, best selling book in the history of the world, the Holy Bible, authored by Moses.  The creator of human beings lays out the gameplan to have a healthy life, free of diseases and ailments.  He also tells us the belief system abominations to avoid.

 

One of the biggest abominations is the witch doctor sorcerer scam.  This is where make believe concepts are used to conjure up and create fear, to get people under their control, so a magic potion can be used for self inflicted mutilation of their own body.  The same abomination plays out over and over and over.  It gets repetitive.  It just shows how valuable the correct belief system is for a healthy fruitful life.

 

Over and over and over the false religion of poison was torn down and demolished only to pop up again and again and again.  The creative genius of merging it into a nobel profession like medicine shows what despicable vermin they are.

4 hours ago, marin said:

I too find it strange that this is allowed here. Probably the only place RP can post up his out there ideas and get and audience. Real real gone though....

 

I asked the mods....I was told this was a special forum where ,for medical stuff ,any source...Tik Tok to the Daily Excess could be quoted?????

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

I asked the mods....I was told this was a special forum where ,for medical stuff ,any source...Tik Tok to the Daily Excess could be quoted?????

I thought it was nutters corner........

Who is eligible in the US for the 2024–2025 COVID-19 booster:

 

•  Adults 65 and older

•  Individuals of any age with underlying health conditions that increase risk of severe COVID-19

•  People who are immunocompromised

•  Pregnant individuals

•  Those living in long-term care facilities

•  People who have never received a COVID-19 vaccine

Just now, transam said:

I thought it was nutters corner........

 

 

I never doubted for one minute  that this is/was "nutters corner"......555

7 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

I asked the mods....I was told this was a special forum where ,for medical stuff ,any source...Tik Tok to the Daily Excess could be quoted?????

 

Seems you were not aware that the current forum is a sub-forum of the 'Off the Beaten Track' forum, and allows and encourages posting/sharing/discussing of controversial issues. 

 

1 minute ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Seems you were not aware that the current forum is a sub-forum of the 'Off the Beaten Track' forum, and allows and encourages posting/sharing/discussing of controversial issues. 

 

.........by nutters.........

3 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Seems you were not aware that the current forum is a sub-forum of the 'Off the Beaten Track' forum, and allows and encourages posting/sharing/discussing of controversial issues. 

 

 

 

Isn't that what I just said?.......so how was I not aware?

3 minutes ago, transam said:

.........by nutters.........

 

 

Glad you beat me to it......stopped me getting yet another b.a.n.

4 hours ago, BKKKevin said:

It’s sad this forum has become a conduit to proliferate such ignorance… 

 

4 hours ago, marin said:

I too find it strange that this is allowed here. Probably the only place RP can post up his out there ideas and get and audience. Real real gone though....

This would appear to be a clear violation of forum rules - only thing we can do is report and continue to call out @Red Phoenix’s continual bs - everyone knows he is a fountain of misinformation and nobody with a brain takes him seriously.  Sadly pathetic, these kinds of posts.  
 

From forum rules #3:

 

Provide accurate, helpful, and truthful information.

8 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Who is eligible in the US for the 2024–2025 COVID-19 booster:

 

•  Adults 65 and older

•  Individuals of any age with underlying health conditions that increase risk of severe COVID-19

•  People who are immunocompromised

•  Pregnant individuals

•  Those living in long-term care facilities

•  People who have never received a COVID-19 vaccine

 

"Pregnant individuals" > that choice of words says it all...

Just now, TimBKK said:

 

This would appear to be a clear violation of forum rules - only thing we can do is report and continue to call out @Red Phoenix’s continual bs - everyone knows he is a fountain of misinformation and nobody with a brain takes him seriously.  Sadly pathetic, these kinds of posts.  
 

From forum rules #3:

 

Provide accurate, helpful, and truthful information.

100% agree, the bloke is a dangerous nutter.............😬

 

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Top marks to Red once again.

 

When are people gonna wake up? There was/is no evidence the covid-19 virus ever existed/ing; except in a computer programme. The 2019 pandemic was a carefully planned fraudulent hoax. RIP Kary. They were waiting for you to go to set the scam into motion.

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

Are you actually also a member of JW?

4 hours ago, BKKKevin said:

It’s sad this forum has become a conduit to proliferate such ignorance… 

Would had been a interesting study to meet up with some of the most sophisticated members in here and see how they really was in real life. 

Just now, newbee2022 said:

Are you actually also a member of JW?

There is probably a column in The Watchtower..........

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Would had been a interesting study to meet up with some of the most sophisticated members in here and see how they really was in real life. 

 

 

I hear Stiddle and Red are both wheelchairs users, suffering from debilitating, chronic illnesses.

 

 

1 hour ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Nature has the answers we seek, so people looked at nature and the universe and came up with ways to test things and prove there worth - be they natural remedies or complex man made mechanisms -  resulting in many discoveries such as vaccines.

So I am not sure what you are saying unless you think everything can be cured or fixed by something natural in the garden. Why would new discoveries in medicine and health be any different to new discoveries in physics, chemistry etc - finding new things  needs hard work, ingenuity, and not reliance on what happens to be sitting there in front of them in the natural environment. Seems obvious but the way you talk is like a belief in god such that when we need he will provide from nature's bounty or something. 

I don't think you fully get it Sir. A tree is nature. A wasp is nature. a human is nature. Everything, we have - yes everything, from a spud to a car - comes from nature.

 

Our body is a wonderful bit of kit. It looks after us (itself) all the time. It is not in its interest to deliberately cause self harm. It, as with everything else in nature, relies on two fundamental things; survival and reproduction.

 

We are born healthy and will remain that way until the body fails to replenish itself some years later. Man has intervened, and decided that nature cannot be trusted in keeping us healthy. So! Here's the kicker. It was realised some 120+ years ago that money, big money, could be made from cutting out nature, and installing a dollar based health system. The major culprit was Rockefeller (there were others). He saw that money could compromise the true beliefs of white-coats. Money poured into Medical Establishments and Universities, and natural medicine was basically stamped to death. We have gradually worsened since those times.

 

As humans, we are a mix of the chemical and electrical. Water is the main constituent in our bodies, and it is water, that we rely on to keep ourselves in balance; in optimal health. So what sends us out of balance? Mostly, it is man-made stuff. Poor nutrition, unclean water, toxicity, medical interventions and fear. We have also disregarded the our body's ability to self-heal. And this self-healing is nature at work. Unfortunately, it has been replaced with medicines, and medical interventions, that stop the self-healing, and create problems for the body's future well-being.

 

To return to the OP; although the above is intrinsically related. Science starts with a Thought. Advances into an Idea. That idea is promoted to a Hypothesis. Through thought and experimentation it then morphs into a Theory. The theory undergoes scrutiny. Is the theory true or false? Can it be both? Well! The virologists would have us believe that a virus, they can't isolate and purify, can be shown to cause disease. This is IMO is nonsense. It goes against the very essence of nature, and is certainly anti-science. And relegates the 'Germ Theory' to that of a Hypothesis.

 

I say (although there are many other things too technical for this thread).

 

So! Let's get to it.

 

#1 - There is no such thing as apathogenic virus in nature.

#2 - Diseases do not exist as we are told they do.

#3 - A sickness cannot be passed from a sick person to a healthy one.

#4 - The body will self-heal if given the tools. 

 

In fact to, #4, that is happening 24/7/365 to all of us.

 

Let's debate. I'm quite willing to expand any of the above is you are still unsure Sir.

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Would had been a interesting study to meet up with some of the most sophisticated members in here and see how they really was in real life. 

 

‘Covid Vaccine Booster’ is now reserved for the mentally ill

 

 

That's not fair!

 

Why do only vaccine-deniers, flat-earf'ers and Trump cabinet members get this advanced life-saving wonder drug?

5 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I don't think you fully get it Sir. A tree is nature. A wasp is nature. a human is nature. Everything, we have - yes everything, from a spud to a car - comes from nature.

 

covids is nature.

 

the vaccine is nature.

 

fight fire with fire.

10 minutes ago, transam said:

There is probably a column in The Watchtower..........

I addressed not you.

But the COVID conspiracy group here is similar to JW.

36 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

I asked the mods....I was told this was a special forum where ,for medical stuff ,any source...Tik Tok to the Daily Excess could be quoted?????

I asked the mods for help too, in one of this nutter's posts. 

There should be a forum for Americans with severe brain deficiency, like the OP, where they can post their garbage without polluting the rest of AN.

Just now, SpaceKadet said:

I asked the mods for help too, in one of this nutter's posts. 

There should be a forum for Americans with severe brain deficiency, like the OP, where they can post their garbage without polluting the rest of AN.

 

Not sure the servers could cope.....555

3 hours ago, johng said:

New revelations are coming our on a regular basis  I thank @Red Phoenix   for keeping us all informed about the latest developments.

Information provided courtesy of deranged snake oil peddlers with fake degrees. 

28 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

covids is nature.

 

the vaccine is nature.

 

fight fire with fire.

Covid was/is a man-made phantasy Sir. There is no such thing in nature.

 

I played a game with a medical student (S). It was interesting. It went like this:

 

Me - Do you know why it rains when there is a storm? 

S - Not exactly sure.

Me - Well I'll tell you, there are elephants way up in the sky. And when it is cloudy, they can't see so good, and crash into each other; causing thunder and lightning.

 

 I kept a dead straight face during the lecture.

 

Me - And they piss themselves with laughter. And we get rain. Do you believe that Madam?

S - No. It's just stupid.

Me - OK. But if I was to offer you 5k dollars a month for the rest of your life; could you believe it then?.

S - Maybe then I could.

Me - And if I were to give you extra to promote the 'Elephant Theory' at every opportunity?

S - How much extra?

Me - Double; 10k a month.

S - For sure - when can I start?

 

And the 'Germ Theory' 'Elephant Theory' was born.

 

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Nature has the answers we seek.

A LOT of common drugs are composed entirely of substances found in Nature.  It's time you seriously reviewed the truth about drugs in common use:

 

AI says:

 

A complete list of 100 common drugs entirely based on natural substances, including those now manufactured synthetically, is not feasible for an AI to generate definitively. This is due to several factors, including the proprietary nature of pharmaceutical research, the continuous evolution of drug discovery, and the extensive history of ethnobotanical and microbiological medicine. However, a substantial list of well-known examples can be compiled from available information. 

Many of these drugs are based on naturally occurring compounds from plants, fungi, and marine life. The active ingredients are often isolated from the natural source and are then either used directly, chemically modified (semi-synthetic), or produced entirely through synthesis.

 

Drugs derived from plants

• Aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid): Based on salicylic acid from willow bark.
• Morphine: A potent painkiller isolated from the opium poppy.
• Codeine: A painkiller and cough suppressant also from the opium poppy.
• Cocaine: Used as a local anesthetic, it is derived from coca leaves.
• Quinine: An anti-malarial drug from the bark of the cinchona tree.
• Quinidine: An anti-arrhythmic drug also from the cinchona tree.
• Atropine: An anticholinergic drug from deadly nightshade (Atropa belladonna).
• Scopolamine: Used to treat motion sickness, it is also from deadly nightshade.
• Digoxin: A cardiac glycoside for heart failure, from the foxglove plant.
• Vinblastine: A chemotherapy agent from the Madagascar periwinkle.
• Vincristine: Another chemotherapy agent from the Madagascar periwinkle.
• Paclitaxel: A chemotherapy drug originally from the Pacific yew tree.
• Artemisinin: An anti-malarial compound from sweet wormwood.
• Colchicine: Used for gout, from the autumn crocus.
• Pilocarpine: A medication for dry mouth and glaucoma, derived from Pilocarpus plants.
• Ephedrine and pseudoephedrine: Decongestants based on compounds from the Ephedra sinica plant.
• Capsaicin: A topical pain reliever from chili peppers.
• Caffeine: A stimulant from coffee beans, tea leaves, and kola nuts.
• Theophylline: A bronchodilator from tea leaves.
• Curare (Tubocurarine): A muscle relaxant used in surgery, from various plants.
• Galanthamine: Treats Alzheimer's disease, from the common snowdrop.
• Reserpine: An antipsychotic and antihypertensive, from the snakeroot plant.
• Physostigmine: An anticholinesterase inhibitor, from the Calabar bean.
• Berberine: An antimicrobial and anti-inflammatory, from various plants like goldenseal.
• Ergometrine: Induces uterine contractions, from the ergot fungus (Claviceps purpurea).
• Danthron: A laxative from Cassia species.
• Crofelemer: Treats HIV-associated diarrhea, from the dragon's blood tree.
• Podophyllotoxin: A compound for treating warts, from the Mayapple plant.
• Emetine: An emetic, from the ipecac plant.
• Camptothecin: An anticancer drug, from the Chinese happy tree. 

Drugs derived from fungi

• Penicillin: The first widely used antibiotic, discovered from Penicillium mold.
• Cephalosporins: A class of antibiotics from Cephalosporium mold.
• Lovastatin: A cholesterol-lowering statin from Aspergillus terreus fungus.
• Cyclosporine: An immunosuppressant from the fungus Tolypocladium inflatum.
• Mycophenolic acid: A powerful immunosuppressant from Penicillium brevicompactum mold.
• Griseofulvin: An antifungal drug from Penicillium species.
• Micafungin: An antifungal drug from the fungus Coleophoma empetri.
• Ergotamine: A vasoconstrictor for migraines, from the ergot fungus.
• Fingolimod: An immunomodulator for multiple sclerosis, derived from a fungus. 

Drugs derived from other natural sources

• Heparin: An anticoagulant derived from animal tissues (e.g., pig intestines, cow lungs).
• Insulin: Originally sourced from animal pancreases before being produced synthetically.
• Thyroxine: A hormone replacement derived from animal thyroid glands.
• Urokinase: A thrombolytic enzyme from human urine.
• Botulinum toxin (Botox): A neurotoxin from the bacterium Clostridium botulinum.
• Anacaulase: A compound from pineapple plants that treats thermal burns.
• Omega-3 fatty acids: Derived from fish oil and used to treat hypertriglyceridemia.
• Estetrol: A hormone based on a compound from the urine of pregnant women.
• Hirudin: A natural anticoagulant from the salivary glands of leeches.
• Conotoxin: A potent painkiller derived from cone snails. 

Synthetic versions of naturally based compounds

• Opiates: Fentanyl, oxycodone, and other powerful pain relievers are semi-synthetic or fully synthetic opioids based on the natural morphine structure.
• Statins: Many cholesterol-lowering drugs like atorvastatin are synthetically produced based on the fungal compound lovastatin.
• Cannabinoids: Dronabinol (synthetic THC) and Nabiximols (synthetic cannabis extract) are based on compounds from the Cannabis sativa plant.
• Ergot alkaloids: Lisuride and other medications are synthetically derived from the ergot fungus for conditions like Parkinson's disease.
• Amphetamines and methamphetamines: Stimulants based on the structure of ephedrine from the Ephedra plant.