Who would fight for Europe? 50% of German young men, minimum, would refuse.

 

Nobody wants to fight for Europe, apart from a small minority of mercenaries.

27 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

It's quite comical how the legitimate right to protect one's own airspace (according to certain criteria and guidelines) is now being portrayed as a reason for war and escalation.

 

Even worse, however, is that many people simply parrot this.

Welcome to the strange and miraculous world of Kremlin propaganda - a force that, surprisingly, has found eager audiences not only in Russia but among many in the West today.

1 hour ago, Schoggibueb said:

It's quite comical how the legitimate right to protect one's own airspace (according to certain criteria and guidelines)

Countries  have and are allways testing the limits of 

"international waters" and "international airspace"

The US and minions  often send warships through the Taiwan straits

for example,  China has started to do that too...ohhhh

1 hour ago, FlorC said:

A couple of EMP's over europe and they go back to pen and paper.

 

We should keep a backup HDD,Raspberry PI and monitor in a Faraday cage ready for the inevitable...ohh we might need a nuclear fallout shelter too but its a bit above my budget 😋    and  💀 

I  joke  but as you say  a high atmosphere  nuclear strike 

would cause chaos  for anything electronic  which we rely upon totally these days.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

Which is perfectly legitimate. 

 

Countries can still go to war.

You've never made much sense, but lately it's been less than ever. I can see why you lost that high-flying power attorney job you allegedly had.😆

1 hour ago, johng said:

Where have you seen him squirming ?

The sabre rattling you hear, that's Putin squirming like a scabby rat caught in a trap.

4 hours ago, johng said:

 

We should keep a backup HDD,Raspberry PI and monitor in a Faraday cage ready for the inevitable...ohh we might need a nuclear fallout shelter too but its a bit above my budget 😋    and  💀 

I  joke  but as you say  a high atmosphere  nuclear strike 

would cause chaos  for anything electronic  which we rely upon totally these days.

We live in Thailand , so we're safe.

I do have HDD backups in europe.

Lavrov and Putin are playing bad guy good guy. Lavrov is the bad guy and Putin the good guy.....by Russian standards! 

7 hours ago, johng said:

ou seem to think Putin just woke up one day and said lets go to war

That's accurate. 

5 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Who would fight for Europe? 50% of German young men, minimum, would refuse.

 

Nobody wants to fight for Europe, apart from a small minority of mercenaries.

Europe does not want to fight for Europe. 

7 hours ago, Cameroni said:

As long as Europe remembers the Russians have 5000 plus nuclear weapons and the EU does not.

How many of the 5000 nukes are usable?   It only takes a few, and the UK and France have nukes. 

1 minute ago, Fact said:

How many of the 5000 nukes are usable?   It only takes a few, and the UK and France have nukes. 

 

Just over 1400, enough to destroy the planet many times over.

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

Just over 1400, enough to destroy the planet many times over.

The UK and France have about 400 between them, which is enough to finish off Russia. 

Just now, Fact said:

The UK and France have about 400 between them, which is enough to finish off Russia. 

 

I don't think you understand how it works, The UK and France KNOW that Russia has 1400, so they have no interest to precipitate a war of mutual destruction.

 

 

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

I don't think you understand how it works, The UK and France KNOW that Russia has 1400, so they have no interest to precipitate a war of mutual destruction.

 

 

The Russians do not want to be attacked with nuclear weapons. They only make threats to intimidate others.  In the end Russia is a paper tiger.  

18 minutes ago, Fact said:

The Russians do not want to be attacked with nuclear weapons. They only make threats to intimidate others.  In the end Russia is a paper tiger.  

 

The Russians certainly do not want to be attacked with nuclear weapons. Ukraine, as you will know, does not have any nuclear weapons.

 

A paper tiger with nuclear weapons.

Potato face has been spouting this line since last year ,the Kremlin bully boys dont like a response to their bullying so resort to scare tactics

A b21 bomber can drop a bunker buster on the Kremlin without them knowing 

11 hours ago, johng said:

Seems like you don't,   remember Chernobyl  ?

winds blow all ways.

 

When have they said they want to ?  never,

you read that on some "western"  MSM media propaganda.   

 

Also why would they want to occupy Europe they already are the larget country in the world with everything they need.

Chernobyl was a defective Russian sourced nuclear reactor in Ukraine. The nuclear fallout I am referring to would be the consequence of an exchange of strategic nuclear weapons following a Russian invasion. 

 

Why is Russia sending hostile aircraft into Polish and Romanian airspace? Why is Russia violating Norwegian and Swedish territoreal waters? Why is Russia flying nuclear armed aircraft  into the airspace around Canada? When have Norway, Sweden, Romania, Canada and Poland ever presented a threat to Russia?

The Russians repeatedly threaten to "rain down destruction" on These countries.  These countries have never attacked anyone. It was Russia that enabled WWII when it aligned itself with the Nazis and jointly attacked  Poland. It was Russia that invaded and occupied the Baltic states and eastern European nations. Sweden and Norway have not harmed anyone and are trying to live in peace.

10 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

A b21 bomber can drop a bunker buster on the Kremlin without them knowing 

They will if it hits it!

Zelenskyy asked Trump for Tomahawk missiles that can reach Moscow – The Telegraph

 

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/09/26/7532661/

 

Moscow ...

All this sabre rattling  better be careful.

 

The 1983 Military Drill That Nearly Sparked Nuclear War With the Soviets

 

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-1983-military-drill-that-nearly-sparked-nuclear-war-with-the-soviets-180979980/

President of America says 

  In the end Russia is a paper tiger...

Tell that to Iran ...

 

Interesting, it´s wrong when other countries ally with Ukraine, but it´s totally ok for Russia to get help from North Korea.
 

On 9/26/2025 at 1:49 PM, Cameroni said:

This is non-news, Lavrov just stating the obvious and complaining. EU officials lying yet again.

 

As long as Europe remembers the Russians have 5000 plus nuclear weapons and the EU does not.

 

Tiresome to see political dwarves like Macron, Starmer, Merz Sanchez et al pretend they have anything else but their taxpayers' money.

This is really good stuff! If Europe has 500+ as described in a reply to your post, then you consider it much worse that a country has 5000 nuclear weapons? Right! Did you really think there?

How many do we need to wipe out the world? 30-40?

Also, what Russia has, is old stuff from long time ago. How many are really working? Will they detonate on the ground?

I guess you will win the Pulitzer on that post!

1 hour ago, Gottfrid said:

Interesting, it´s wrong when other countries ally with Ukraine, but it´s totally ok for Russia to get help from North Korea.
 

This is really good stuff! If Europe has 500+ as described in a reply to your post, then you consider it much worse that a country has 5000 nuclear weapons? Right! Did you really think there?

How many do we need to wipe out the world? 30-40?

Also, what Russia has, is old stuff from long time ago. How many are really working? Will they detonate on the ground?

I guess you will win the Pulitzer on that post!

 

As usual, you did not think. 

 

First of all your suggestion that Russia has nuclear weapons that are not working is idiotic. And I do mean truly, quite seriously thicko.

 

Secondly, the Ukraine has no nuclear weapons. Russia could unleash nuclear weapons on Ukraine. It would never do so on a NATO member.

 

 

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

As usual, you did not think. 

 

First of all your suggestion that Russia has nuclear weapons that are not working is idiotic. And I do mean truly, quite seriously thicko.

 

Secondly, the Ukraine has no nuclear weapons. Russia could unleash nuclear weapons on Ukraine. It would never do so on a NATO member.

 

 

What, should Russia unleash nuclear weapons on Ukraine, a neighboring country, that they wish to take over. Second, it´s a neighboring country, and they would get radiation as well. Who it not thinking, and then calling others for thicko!??? Really? You seem to be totally bombed! Was it nuclear?

22 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

What, should Russia unleash nuclear weapons on Ukraine, a neighboring country, that they wish to take over. Second, it´s a neighboring country, and they would get radiation as well. Who it not thinking, and then calling others for thicko!??? Really? You seem to be totally bombed! Was it nuclear?

 

Nobody is saying that Russia wants to unleash nuclear weapons. However, Russia has made clear that it will do so if it thinks its territorial integrity and survival is threatened, meaning that if Russia were to lose on the battlefield for any reason against Ukraine, then it could use nuclear weapons on Ukraine.

 

Ukraine is a very large country and Russia dealt with Chernobyl, do you seriously think in a moment of truth that involves the survival of Russia they would be deterred by possible radiation pollution?

 

Again, you are not thinking straight.

On 9/26/2025 at 8:10 AM, Cameroni said:

 

Russia is not pouring billions into another country to attack France, UK, Germany or Spain.

No Cameroni there using North koreans as Cannon Fodder. If Nato unleashed its full force Russia would be smashed by a well organised infantry.

22 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Nobody is saying that Russia wants to unleash nuclear weapons. However, Russia has made clear that it will do so if it thinks its territorial integrity and survival is threatened, meaning that if Russia were to lose on the battlefield for any reason against Ukraine, then it could use nuclear weapons on Ukraine.

 

Ukraine is a very large country and Russia dealt with Chernobyl, do you seriously think in a moment of truth that involves the survival of Russia they would be deterred by possible radiation pollution?

 

Again, you are not thinking straight.

Let´s just agree to disagree.