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So you take the girl out of the bar. Now what?

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3 hours ago, JakeC said:

@hotandsticky Is your every post going to be nonsense? Thais? I wrote about one girl and her story, which you attempted to mock. 

 

@Cameroni How much time are you spending with the two children whom you purport to love?

 

 

If you had replied to my post I might have a clue WTF you are talking about.

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On 9/29/2025 at 3:25 PM, JakeC said:

@fredwiggy So why are you the top poster in an ex bar girl thread, if you have no experience at all? :smile:

I was trying to steer the conversation back to the topic. Anyway, good that you have a relatively normal girlfriend now.

 

 

That is bold statement, to suggest that ex bar girls are not 'relatively normal'

On 9/29/2025 at 2:26 AM, MalcolmB said:

So now what? Should she get a normal job? Or can she just have a life of pleasure living it up?

 Yes, of course, this was what she was looking for – i.e., "a rich man" – and expecting an upper-level-life full of pleasure and joy...🥳
However, if you can provide for that in full, you might risk that she "fall in love" with someone more "handsum"...🤥 

@hotandsticky ...with reference to his previous long term partner, who according to him, was not at all 'normal'.

Stated they've been together for five years. Sounds 'relatively normal' to me. 'Normal' covers a broad spectrum of behaviour. No one is perfect, you just have to be able to work together.

4 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@hotandsticky ...with reference to his previous long term partner, who according to him, was not at all 'normal'.

Stated they've been together for five years. Sounds 'relatively normal' to me. 'Normal' covers a broad spectrum of behaviour. No one is perfect, you just have to be able to work together.

 

 

Now that I do agree with.  I feared a bit of stereo typing.... 

 

 

My long term partner is normal; never had too many issues over almost 20 years but working together was indeed essential - at a personal level and also when we had a restaurant.

 

She worked in a bar (which is where we met) but she had also worked in factories and hotels. She left her job as night cashier when she could see that I was serious about trying to develop a relationship. She didn't ask but I then paid her 6,000 Baht (which was her monthly salary in the bar) so she could spend the time with her family between my visits. 

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8 hours ago, J Branche said:

What happens?  Even more time to look at Facebook, social media ads, shopping on the internet, scheming to work you over. I know, she if different.  You can save and change her.  You might want to check the success rate, probably below 5%.  

 

You need to understand these women understand they are like a product with a Best Before Date.  They want to earn as much money as possible so they can have land, a house, car and easy life in the future.

Doesn't every woman? Or every man for that matter. Can't think of anyone who dreams of being poor.

On 9/29/2025 at 2:58 PM, bkk6060 said:

If you take from a bar send her to school and have her get a job in massage.  That is safe no problem. 

With due respect, are you for real? How many Massage shops have you visited?  Masseuses are always talking about the size of the client’s penis. Very few shops straight and don’t offer alternative services.

High percentage answer:

"You can take the girl out of the bar,

but you can't take the bar out of the girl"

 

Need to strike early

 

On 10/3/2025 at 9:35 AM, JakeC said:

 How much time are you spending with the two children whom you purport to love?

 

As I was cycling in the sun this morning, through this Thai village, Caribbean vibes on my Sony wireless earphones, thanks to internet radio , I thought this is actually not a bad question.

 

See, when your first child is born you initially assume that you and the mother will both play equal roles in the life of the child. You think you're both the parents, and you'll both have an equal relationshiip with this child, she's the mother and you're the father.

 

And for a short time, this does work, you both play and care for the child, so initially the attachment with this child is equal, or at least not discernibly different. However, what you don't realise at this time is that the mother will inevitably win this race, because she does not fight fair, she has secret weapons. For one, she will breast feed the child. This creates an attachment far above what you could ever hope to achieve with playing and attention.

 

As the child grows older, this issue of the mother putting in far more effort and time with the child is compounded because you of course are busy working to pay for the house, the food, the clothes and everything else the child and mother need. So you don't even have the time anymore that you had at the start to build the attachment with the child.

 

This issue is compounded if you opted to marry a very good looking woman from another culture, in my case Russia, who speaks a language you do not speak. In a pretty short time, this child was speaking Russian  with the mother. It's amazing to watch, because I know how hard Russian is to learn, and this child spoke it in a few months literally. So they speak in a language you cannot even understand.

 

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that you can never, as a man, hope to have the same quality of attachment with a child that the mother has. That is impossible. When I decided to divorce and move to Thailand, I opted to take the ex-wife and children with me, so the children would be closer to me. And this worked well at the beginning, the relationship was excellent, despite being divorced and living in different houses, the co-parenting was amicable and excellent.

 

However, a woman being a woman, inevitably she of course opened her legs for another guy with whom she then entered into an emotional attachment. As a result, she had to empty her heart of all remnants of affection for me, as the heart can have only one master. So she started to behave in a thoroughly despicable, aggressive and nasty way towards me, just so she can empty her heart and make room for this new man.

 

This had a most undesirable side-effect, it affected the relationship with my children. Since everytime I'd visit the mother's house she'd start nasty arguments, and she no doubt used her influence to set the children against me, the nature of my relationship with my children changed.

 

Now, of course they still love me, for children will always love their parents, if they treat them well, they don't know any better, however, very clearly my children became almost entirely my wife's minions. She plied them with clothes, and knew exactly what they wanted. i see them only once a week, so my information on this is limited. 

 

The worst, my eldest even told me she went shopping alone with this new man my ex-wife is banging now, so she's building an attachment with the new guy as well. 

 

So , despite doing all I could, I have to resign myself to the fact that my time with the children is limited and my attachment and relationship with them is not as I would like it to be.

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