October 13, 2025Oct 13 Popular Post 11 hours ago, Cameroni said: You obviously didn't read the article, Thai police have tightened their approach to foreigners because of the incident of Israelis attacking doctors and nurses in the hospital in Pai. Pai police already had a dubious reputation, but now they have licence to persecute foreigners with near impunity, all thanks to Chabad and their influx of Israeli IDF soldiers and other charming tourists. Police won't bother you if you act civilized. More cops around = more safety for everyone.
October 13, 2025Oct 13 Popular Post 7 minutes ago, save the frogs said: Yeah, and white non Jews are not here for massages. I'm out of this conversation. It seems like you're blowing things way out of proportion. And anyway, it's Thai authorities job to manage these things, not ours. They get more and more extreme and they work themselves up into frenzy . The reality is that many of the Israelis left Pai earlier this year and there are not many tourists there now
October 13, 2025Oct 13 Popular Post The whole hoax about an Israeli settlement in Pai was debunked in a thread earlier this year on AN. The notion of a "large Israeli Jewish population" in Pai was based on false social media posts that claimed 30,000 Israelis had settled there. That absurd claim was debunked by everyone from the then Prime Minister on down. At every level, national, provincial and local, Thai government officials refuted the notion of a Jewish conspiracy to take over Pai. All the nonsense points raised in this thread were already smashed seven-and-a-half months ago. Unfortunately, some Thais and farang have fallen for this nonsense. Whether that is the result of ignorance or ill-will is hard to know, but I would guess it's mostly ignorance on the part of Thais in Pai. PM scoffs at rumours of 'Israeli settlement' in Pai Prime Minister Paetongtarn Shinawatra yesterday dismissed online rumours that Pai district of Mae Hong Son province is home to some 30,000 Israelis, saying they are false. "Hold on a moment," Ms Paetongtarn said. "We've already verified that this is not true," she said when asked by media if some Israelis viewed Pai as a new "promised land" and that more than 30,000 had settled in the district. https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2963683/pm-scoffs-at-rumours-of-israeli-settlement-in-pai Anutin visits Pai, denies Israeli tourists taking over, calls claims exaggerated Anutin further stated that concerns raised on social media and in news reports have been closely monitored by the Governor of Mae Hong Son. He confirmed that many of the issues discussed are exaggerated or did not actually occur. There are no concerns regarding infiltration, threats to national security, or the establishment of foreign settlements. Authorities have verified that all visitors respect Thai laws, adhere to regulations, and do not pose a threat to the local community, allowing life in the area to continue peacefully, he said. https://www.nationthailand.com/news/40046737 The article also revealed Pai District had 20 Israeli families who were permanent residents, mainly through marriage to Thai nationals. PM, governor counter viral reports of Israeli resettlement in Pai [Thai Prime Minister Paetongtarn Shinawatra has denied as groundless viral claims that Israelis have taken over Pai district in Mae Hong Son. She also said reports claiming that signboards there stated 'No locals allowed' were incorrect. Meanwhile the Mae Hong Son governor has contradicted viral online reports claiming that tens of thousands of Israelis have settled in the popular tourist district of Pai, causing a nuisance and irritating the locals. https://world.thaipbs.or.th/detail/56577 No Israeli ‘Promised Land’ in Pai: Tourist police refute social media claims "On Tuesday, Pol Lt Col Suwit Boonyaphen, an inspector of Mae Hong Son tourist police, refuted widely shared Facebook posts alleging that around 30,000 Jewish people had settled in Pai and built a Jewish synagogue. "He clarified that the reported figure of 30,000 Israeli tourists refers to the total number of Israeli visitors over the past year, not a permanent settlement. On average, only 83 to 84 Israeli tourists visit Pai each day." https://www.nationthailand.com/news/tourism/40046434 However, the 83 to 84 Israeli tourists per day was also wrong. The real figure is 200 to 300 Israeli in Pai per day on average. The Thai cops investigated the Chabad House in Pai and found no violations of Thai law. Mae Hong Son governor had said the same thing. On 2/20/2025 at 6:00 PM, webfact said: Pol Col Thanathorn emphasized the seriousness of the potential repercussions for those found infringing Thai law, particularly underlining that tourist visa holders are strictly prohibited from working. In recent inquiries, no evidence of Israelis overstaying their visas surfaced. Typically, they hold 60-day visas with an option for a 30-day extension, allowing them a maximum stay of 90 days—adequate for most tourists, stated Pol Col Thanathorn. There has been notable online chatter regarding the influx of Israelis in Pai. A circulating claim suggested that 30,000 Israelis entered Mae Hong Son last year. However, Pol Col Thanathorn clarified these figures, citing recent surveys indicating 1,200 to 1,500 Israeli visitors arrive per month, peaking at no more than 3,000 during the cooler months. Recently, immigration authorities conducted an inspection at a community centre frequently used for Jewish gatherings. During this event, approximately 200 to 300 Israelis were present for prayers and meals. The inspection concluded with no legal violations detected. -- 2025-02-21
October 13, 2025Oct 13 2 hours ago, Evil Penevil said: The whole hoax about an Israeli settlement in Pai was debunked in a thread earlier this year on AN. The notion of a "large Israeli Jewish population" in Pai was based on false social media posts that claimed 30,000 Israelis had settled there. That absurd claim was debunked by everyone from the then Prime Minister on down. At every level, national, provincial and local, Thai government officials refuted the notion of a Jewish conspiracy to take over Pai. All the nonsense points raised in this thread were already smashed seven-and-a-half months ago. Unfortunately, some Thais and farang have fallen for this nonsense. Whether that is the result of ignorance or ill-will is hard to know, but I would guess it's mostly ignorance on the part of Thais in Pai. PM scoffs at rumours of 'Israeli settlement' in Pai Prime Minister Paetongtarn Shinawatra yesterday dismissed online rumours that Pai district of Mae Hong Son province is home to some 30,000 Israelis, saying they are false. "Hold on a moment," Ms Paetongtarn said. "We've already verified that this is not true," she said when asked by media if some Israelis viewed Pai as a new "promised land" and that more than 30,000 had settled in the district. https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2963683/pm-scoffs-at-rumours-of-israeli-settlement-in-pai Anutin visits Pai, denies Israeli tourists taking over, calls claims exaggerated Anutin further stated that concerns raised on social media and in news reports have been closely monitored by the Governor of Mae Hong Son. He confirmed that many of the issues discussed are exaggerated or did not actually occur. There are no concerns regarding infiltration, threats to national security, or the establishment of foreign settlements. Authorities have verified that all visitors respect Thai laws, adhere to regulations, and do not pose a threat to the local community, allowing life in the area to continue peacefully, he said. https://www.nationthailand.com/news/40046737 The article also revealed Pai District had 20 Israeli families who were permanent residents, mainly through marriage to Thai nationals. PM, governor counter viral reports of Israeli resettlement in Pai [Thai Prime Minister Paetongtarn Shinawatra has denied as groundless viral claims that Israelis have taken over Pai district in Mae Hong Son. She also said reports claiming that signboards there stated 'No locals allowed' were incorrect. Meanwhile the Mae Hong Son governor has contradicted viral online reports claiming that tens of thousands of Israelis have settled in the popular tourist district of Pai, causing a nuisance and irritating the locals. https://world.thaipbs.or.th/detail/56577 No Israeli ‘Promised Land’ in Pai: Tourist police refute social media claims "On Tuesday, Pol Lt Col Suwit Boonyaphen, an inspector of Mae Hong Son tourist police, refuted widely shared Facebook posts alleging that around 30,000 Jewish people had settled in Pai and built a Jewish synagogue. "He clarified that the reported figure of 30,000 Israeli tourists refers to the total number of Israeli visitors over the past year, not a permanent settlement. On average, only 83 to 84 Israeli tourists visit Pai each day." https://www.nationthailand.com/news/tourism/40046434 However, the 83 to 84 Israeli tourists per day was also wrong. The real figure is 200 to 300 Israeli in Pai per day on average. The Thai cops investigated the Chabad House in Pai and found no violations of Thai law. Mae Hong Son governor had said the same thing. So basically what that article says is the Jew haters here are just trying to increase their algorithm as they scream and froth and rage over the Middle East peace deal.
October 13, 2025Oct 13 9 hours ago, MalcolmB said: But not in Thailand. You live in Nakon ButFuchNowhere. How many Israelis live in your village? They wanted want to go there. This is a large number of Thais from the South to the North of Thailand having problems because of disgusting behavior. A couple of articles about Israelis, as well as all other nationalities, doing stupid things in Thailand, isn't a large number. I could say the same thing about all the Brits that get caught doing stupid things, but that would still be a small amount compared to the total amount of Brits here. When I see a lot of articles about a certain group committing chaos, then I'll change my thinking.I've seen more about Brits than any other, but seeing I'm open minded and not prejudiced, I don't lump all into one group. Prejudice is very obvious when you let people talk awhile. I've lived in this part of Thailand over 7 years, but that doesn't compare to living in the US near big cities where there are thousands of Israelis that I saw all the time for over 60 years. Do you think other nationalities, creeds or races act differently in their own countries? It's individuals, not a whole people. Have you ever noticed your own behavior in Thailand and before with women? I don't know what They wanted want to go there means.
October 14, 2025Oct 14 Popular Post 3 hours ago, fredwiggy said: A couple of articles about Israelis, as well as all other nationalities, doing stupid things in Thailand, isn't a large number. I could say the same thing about all the Brits that get caught doing stupid things, but that would still be a small amount compared to the total amount of Brits here. When I see a lot of articles about a certain group committing chaos, then I'll change my thinking.I've seen more about Brits than any other, but seeing I'm open minded and not prejudiced, I don't lump all into one group. Prejudice is very obvious when you let people talk awhile. I've lived in this part of Thailand over 7 years, but that doesn't compare to living in the US near big cities where there are thousands of Israelis that I saw all the time for over 60 years. Do you think other nationalities, creeds or races act differently in their own countries? It's individuals, not a whole people. Have you ever noticed your own behavior in Thailand and before with women? I don't know what They wanted want to go there means. You are arguing with a guy who beleive the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is real.
October 14, 2025Oct 14 5 minutes ago, Yagoda said: You are arguing with a guy with beleive the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is real. Not arguing but pointing out the obvious. Him and his kind will always argue, even if they've been proven wrong every time, as it's their nature. I've heard people saying the Jews are taking over, all the years I could understand the meaning of their misguided words. Many still look at Hitler as a mentor. Amusing to me.
October 14, 2025Oct 14 23 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: Many still look at Hitler as a mentor. That makes me roll my eyes. Imagine worshipping a drug addicted homosexual? Great example.
October 14, 2025Oct 14 21 hours ago, Evil Penevil said: The notion of a "large Israeli Jewish population" in Pai was based on false social media posts that claimed 30,000 Israelis had settled there Population of Pai is very small. I don't think the Thai authorities would allow the Israeli population to far exceed the local population.
October 14, 2025Oct 14 Author 11 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: The reality is that many of the Israelis left Pai earlier this year and there are not many tourists there now I hope they don’t come back.
October 14, 2025Oct 14 Author 1 hour ago, fredwiggy said: I've heard people saying the Jews are taking over, They definitely are trying to take over the West Bank and Golan Heights.
October 14, 2025Oct 14 Author 12 hours ago, save the frogs said: There is no "crackdown on ALL foreigners". There was a crackdown on all foreigners in Pai earlier in the year as a direct result of the misbehaving Israelis. It is well documented. Anutin made a trip up there to address it.
October 14, 2025Oct 14 11 hours ago, MalcolmB said: There was a crackdown on all foreigners in Pai earlier in the year as a direct result of the misbehaving Israelis. It is well documented. Anutin made a trip up there to address it. Crackdown on what exactly? People overstaying their visas and smoking weed in restaurants and putting their feet up on tables on restaurants? No one is cracking down on people who act civilized and follow the rules.
October 14, 2025Oct 14 2 hours ago, MalcolmB said: I hope they don’t come back. God forbid that your peace of mind is ever disturbed by the sound of Hebrew.
October 14, 2025Oct 14 Popular Post 18 hours ago, Yagoda said: So basically what that article says is the Jew haters here are just trying to increase their algorithm as they scream and froth and rage over the Middle East peace deal. I won't speculate on motive, but it is peculiar that a social media hoax which had been debunked months ago should suddenly raise its absurd head. NOTHING about the "takeover myth" was true except a few young Israeli men had misbehaved in public, for which they were apprehended and punished in accordance with Thai law. It's also disturbing to see Chabad House portrayed as something sinister. It's a charity which provides Jews of all nationalities who are traveling with religious and social services, Chabad Houses are most noted for Shabbat (sabbath) dinners, weekly meals which are a central feature of Jewish culture. Prayers, singing hymns, sermons, communal meals and counseling, that's about it for a Chabad House. It takes a real stretch of the imagination to turn those activities into something ominous. If a group of young Irish or Italian men misbehave in Thailand, the police wouldn't think of investigating the operation of a Catholic church. Same-same with Scandinavian or German drunken young crazies, the police won't visit a Protestant church. But because local Thais in Pai weren't familiar with Judaism, they thought the religious services and Shabbat meals, which attracted 200 to 300 participants, were parties. The expression, "I don't know whether to laugh or cry," fits perfectly as my reaction. 11 hours ago, Yagoda said: You are arguing with a guy who beleive the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is real. Unfortunately, several members of AN share his beliefs. You would think we would have come farther since the days of Czarist Russia, but some are still stuck in age-old hatreds. Sad, , very sad.
October 14, 2025Oct 14 11 hours ago, Evil Penevil said: Unfortunately, several members of AN share his beliefs. You would think we would have come farther since the days of Czarist Russia, but some are still stuck in age-old hatreds. Sad, , very sad. I feel sorry for people born in Israel. Nothing to do with anti-semitism. What a sad life to be constantly having to worry about a bomb dropping over your head or having to murder other people to preserve your own survival.
October 14, 2025Oct 14 On 10/13/2025 at 10:38 AM, Cameroni said: I don't see any Brits or Yanks building cultural-religious-school centres similar to Chabad Houses that are exclusively aimed at Jews and Israelis. So I've been thinking about this. Israel is not a normal country. These people have been living in a war zone for generations. So when people live in hardship, these "religious" things like Chabad take on more significance. We can't understand since we haven't lived through what these people have lived through. Maybe they need it.
October 14, 2025Oct 14 On 10/13/2025 at 11:14 PM, Evil Penevil said: Authorities have verified that all visitors respect Thai laws, adhere to regulations, and do not pose a threat to the local community, allowing life in the area to continue peacefully, he said. ' Indeed Anutin did say this, which clearly proves that Anutin was very poorly informed, or is simply ignoring well documented reports of Israelis who have broken Thai laws in Pai,e caused disturbances in the local hospital including attacking nurses and doctors, purchasing land illegally using Thai nominees, assuming jobs reserved for Thais, engaging inrampant public cannabis consumption, noise polllution from the Chabad house, and many other issues that are well documented. So basically Anutin went on a superficial PR trip with a preconceived notion and did not bother to investigate the issue at depth, thus conveniently reaching the conclusion "no action required". This is merely another anecdote in the long history of neglect of the north by Bangkok, who historically never want to do anything to help the norther part of Thailand. This issue in Pai is most certainly NOT a hoax. There is a real Chabad House there and a real massive influx of Israelis, including IDF soldiers, who are committing real crimes under Thai law. The completely disgraced former PM Ms Shinawatra referring to an overblown social media post is irrelevant, there ARE about 3000 Israelis who have settled in the area, which is promoted as a promised land in Thailand by Chabad. You are engaging in the typical "red herring" hoax yourself, claiming because some social media report exaggerated the figure of 30000 the whole issue is a "hoax", which is completely untrue. There are 3000 Israelis settled in Pai, and there is a real Chabad house, and there are real crimes that have been committed by Israelis there. 11 hours ago, Evil Penevil said: It's also disturbing to see Chabad House portrayed as something siniste Removed.
October 14, 2025Oct 14 11 hours ago, Cameroni said: They don't just sit around a campfire singing the Israeli version of Kumbaya, they engage in very extreme religious studies and also fund Jewish education, which will be of the most extreme religious kind. Maybe it appears "sinister" to you because you weren't born in Israel and have no idea what these people go through. Maybe this Chabad is a "survival mechanism". It's not a normal country.
October 14, 2025Oct 14 1 minute ago, save the frogs said: Maybe it appears "sinister" to you because you weren't born in Israel and have no idea what these people go through. Maybe this Chabad is a "survival mechanism". It's not a normal country. Possibly, but in the UK religious Islamist schools were closed down and forbidden because of the extreme Islamist ideology they teach there, and you can bet your bottom dollar that in schools funded by Chabad, an equally extreme version of Judaist fundamentalism, ie Orthodox Judaism, will be taught. Moreover Chabad attract former IDF soldiers and religious nutcases, former settlers and such characters of a sociopathic bend.
October 14, 2025Oct 14 11 hours ago, Cameroni said: Possibly, but in the UK religious Islamist schools were closed down and forbidden because of the extreme Islamist ideology they teach there, and you can bet your bottom dollar that in schools funded by Chabad, an equally extreme version of Judaist fundamentalism, ie Orthodox Judaism, will be taught. Some Islamic countries have been at war with Western countries. Not sure why you bring up Chabad houses in Canada. Canada is aligned with US, which is aligned with Israel. These places will not cause any issues whatsoever in North America. For Pai, if the population of permanent Israelis exceeds the local population, I can see that you are concerned about that. But that does not appear to be the case, at least not for the moment. But if they do, just don't go to Pai. Go to Pattaya and experience "the REAL Thailand". https://world.thaipbs.or.th/detail/israeli-tourists-in-pai-are-here-for-leisure-not-to-take-over-rabbi-wilhelm/56657 Rabbi Nehemiah Wilhelm, the most senior rabbi in Thailand, has offered his assurance that Israeli tourists visiting the country simply wish to enjoy a peaceful time and the country’s beautiful culture. He admitted that, while some Israeli tourists can be noisy, disorderly and occasionally cause a disturbance, they love Thailand and its people. He dismissed online reports claiming that tens of thousands of Israelis had settled in the popular tourist destination of Pai, in Mae Hong Son province, with the intention of taking over the area. “In fact, there are about 40-50 Israelis living in Pai, not 30,000 as was falsely claimed online. Tourists from Israel usually stay in Pai for just a few weeks before returning home.”
October 14, 2025Oct 14 Popular Post 1 hour ago, Cameroni said: This issue in Pai is most certainly NOT a hoax. There is a real Chabad House there and a real massive influx of Israelis, including IDF soldiers, who are committing real crimes under Thai law. I said it before but I lived in Pai from 2005-2006 and I saw with my own eyes a no Israeli sign even back then. This has been an on going issue for decades now. It wasn't even crime just behavior so terrible even Thai people couldn't handle it and that really tells you something right there.
October 14, 2025Oct 14 Author 1 minute ago, NorthernRyland said: I said it before but I lived in Pai from 2005-2006 and I saw with my own eyes a no Israeli sign even back then. This has been an on going issue for decades now. It wasn't even crime just behavior so terrible even Thai people couldn't handle it and that really tells you something right there. They were even more common in the 1990s. With the genocide now looking to be over we can expect an big influx of them over this high season and the problems that seem to follow them
October 14, 2025Oct 14 2 hours ago, save the frogs said: Not sure why you bring up Chabad houses in Canada. Canada is aligned with US, which is aligned with Israel. These places will not cause any issues whatsoever in North America. Just to illustrate that even though Canada only has a population of 41 million, Chabad have still decided to build 51 Chabad houses there. They've only just started in Thailand with 9 houses, and there's a population of 71 milion in Thailand. So you can extrapolate that there will be 60 or 70 Chabad houses in Thailand by the time Chabad is done. Jinthing claimed there are so few jews, there are 14 mlillion jews around the wolrd, and Chabad currently maintain over 5000 centres in over 100 countries. This organization is in satiable. Every house they build increases their influence and annual revenue. 2 hours ago, save the frogs said: For Pai, if the population of permanent Israelis exceeds the local population, I can see that you are concerned about that. But that does not appear to be the case, at least not for the moment. Operative words here "for the moment". Let's put this in perspective, In March 2025 Thai news media reported that according to the Thai Immigration department "around 220,000 foreign tourists visited Pai in 2024, including around 31,000 Israelis.... " So 14% of all tourist arrivals in Pai were from Israel. Overall tourists from Israel to Thailand have grown last year by 25% and are projected to increase by this amount next year. This is undoubtedly on the back of the Chabad Houses. "Historical records show that Jewish families settled in Pai several years ago. Originally, only 50-80 people lived there. Today, this number has grown to 1,000-1,300 inhabitants, although the number varies depending on the visa permit....[So what this Rabbi is saying is a load of garbage. It used to be 40 families years ago, now it is well over 1000 people.] https://www.khaosodenglish.com/tourism/2025/03/03/pai-a-small-town-of-happiness-a-must-for-travelers/ https://www.kasikornresearch.com/en/analysis/k-econ/business/Pages/Israel-Tourism-CIS3569-KR-06-03-25.aspx There is absolutely no doubt that in due time the number of Israelis in Pai will grow to unmanageable proportions. Anutin has not done his job properly. And the proportion of Israelis heading to Pai is totally out of whack with the proportion of Israeli tourists in Thailand. There is no doubt the Chabad House is the cause.
October 15, 2025Oct 15 18 hours ago, Cameroni said: There is absolutely no doubt that in due time the number of Israelis in Pai will grow to unmanageable proportions. I checked to see if there's anything on Youtube. There isn't much. I did find this video. Locals do seem to be concerned that it will be overrun with Israelis. However, for the time being, it seems like most of the Israelis are not only tourists, but they are Israeali soldiers. They are not even allowed to relocate to Thailand.
October 17, 2025Oct 17 Author On 10/14/2025 at 1:38 AM, Yagoda said: So basically what that article says is the Jew haters here are just trying to increase their algorithm as they scream and froth and rage over the Middle East peace deal. No, it is about increasingly disruptive behavior in Thailand and law breaking. The Middle East peace deal is bad news for Thai tourist areas as they will now heading here in increased numbers since they are banned from other holiday areas such as Bali, Penang and the Maldives.
October 17, 2025Oct 17 3 minutes ago, MalcolmB said: No, it is about increasingly disruptive behavior in Thailand and law breaking. The Middle East peace deal is bad news for Thai tourist areas as they will now heading here in increased numbers since they are banned from other holiday areas such as Bali, Penang and the Maldives. Whatever you say is just the screeching of a Jew Hater. BTW, we have a warning on all of those places.
October 17, 2025Oct 17 Author Just now, Yagoda said: Whatever you say is just the screeching of a Jew Hater. BTW, we have a warning on all of those places. Makes me laugh. You have a “warning on those places”. It reminds me of them calling for a boycott of the restaurants in Thailand they have already been banned from.
October 17, 2025Oct 17 Author On 10/15/2025 at 7:44 AM, save the frogs said: I checked to see if there's anything on Youtube. There isn't much. I did find this video. Locals do seem to be concerned that it will be overrun with Israelis. However, for the time being, it seems like most of the Israelis are not only tourists, but they are Israeali soldiers. They are not even allowed to relocate to Thailand. They were told to behave months ago but haven’t as said in that video. This week even more arrested.
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