3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Yes, it does, a private business can decide to exclude whoever they want from their business, particularly those who apparently have a reputation for non-payment. do you SERIOUSLY not understand that?  Whether YOU think it is justified or not is irrelevant to that private business's policy.

It's not irrelevant for me judging them ignorant bigots for not distinguishing between individuals and entire classifications of people.

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Silly comment.

Well, I refrained from using a negative comment about your post,

which I thought was a silly comment...

21 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Yet another topic to foment hatred of Jews. Wow. 

 

This is pure deflection 

 

What was done here was categorically and empirically wrong by western standards. Although these Jewish people are essentially supported by western tax payer money their lives and ethics are "souk based" where everything this negotiable and the most schemy and devious win the day. 

 

Young Israelis have for decades been the bane of the world travel destinations and travelers. They are banned from businesses and entire countries. 

 

After witnessing this BS myself and been victim of it many, many times JTs post is typical and is now being called out in the west. We have long since witnessed bad behavior by Jewish people. Each time it's called out we hear the typical whine and tarring of the anti semite brush. The post above is classic. 

 

After what the world has witnessed in Palestine the anti semitism whinge is no longer effective as is the tired Haulocaust©®™ card

 

These were horrible people doing horrible things 

 

Boo

 

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5 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

I find it annoying because the number of people implicated is insignificant. However, anytime one of them is involved, it elicits a mob response. On any given day, a Russian, or UK national is driving drunk or brawling, or an Australian or German is buggering a young boy or girl, or a Japanese or Korean is beating a prostitute, and Indian haggling with a ladyboy and so on. Yet, no one goes on a campaign of demanding they be kept out of Thailand or demanding that UK nationals not be allowed to drive in Thailand, or Australians forced to provide a  sex offence clearance certificate. We all know that these people are a small minority of their visitors. However, israelis get singled out because of the inherent bigotry of the old angry white men demographic. How about  Thailand not allow the entry of farang white males age 45 and older? It would reduce  alot of crime and  sex offences.

A few here are obviously prejudiced against certain types, whether it be Jews, Brits, Americans, Russians, Germans or whatever. They are obvious in their rhetoric, and will fight to the death against anyone sticking up for any particular group, all because they weren't taught respect for all peoples.

 

Some dislike all foreigners, and think they can have Thailand all to themselves and the Thais, actually thinking they're part of the culture because they contribute cash.

 

It all boils down to prejudice itself, one of the most damaging ways of thinking we have. Lumping all into one group is ignorance, and should have been learned when they were young, but prejudiced people teach others the same, and young minds are easily swayed.

 

My own dad used to be a tad against the Jews, for what reason I'll never know. When we would be driving down the road, and someone would be driving in front of us too slow, he would comment, "Look at his nose, must be a Jew". I never took up that thinking, knowing myself he was just pissed off at the driver because he was going too slow and it didn't matter who or what he was.

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

6 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Yes, it does, a private business can decide to exclude whoever they want from their business, particularly those who apparently have a reputation for non-payment. do you SERIOUSLY not understand that?  Whether YOU think it is justified or not is irrelevant to that private business's policy.

It's not irrelevant for me judging them ignorant bigots for not distinguishing between individuals and entire classifications of people.

But, more importantly, it is irrelevant to the business owners which was my point.  

Be clear that there is no country in the world that has banned Israelis because of bad behavior of tourists.

ZERO.

All of the bans are politically based generally from Islamic nations that don't accept the existence of Israel. 

Don't conflate separate things.

7 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

But, more importantly, it is irrelevant to the business owners which was my point.  

You're making up a fake argument.

I've said multiple times they can do what they want if legal no matter how ignorant and bigoted. 

3 hours ago, KhaoHom said:

 

This is pure deflection 

 

What was done here was categorically and empirically wrong by western standards. Although these Jewish people are essentially supported by western tax payer money their lives and ethics are "souk based" where everything this negotiable and the most schemy and devious win the day. 

 

Young Israelis have for decades been the bane of the world travel destinations and travelers. They are banned from businesses and entire countries. 

 

After witnessing this BS myself and been victim of it many, many times JTs post is typical and is now being called out in the west. We have long since witnessed bad behavior by Jewish people. Each time it's called out we hear the typical whine and tarring of the anti semite brush. The post above is classic. 

 

After what the world has witnessed in Palestine the anti semitism whinge is no longer effective as is the tired Haulocaust©®™ card

 

These were horrible people doing horrible things 

 

Boo

 

Edited by Admin

The above is an explicit Jew hating post intentionally inflaming multiple Jew hating tropes.

5 hours ago, Andre0720 said:

Well, I refrained from using a negative comment about your post,

which I thought was a silly comment...

The difference is that yours was silly.

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

11 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

But, more importantly, it is irrelevant to the business owners which was my point.  

You're making up a fake argument.

I've said multiple times they can do what they want if legal no matter how ignorant and bigoted.

I'm not making up anything, be specific if you want to accuse me of posting falsehoods.  

What they are doing is legal no matter how emphatically you state that (in your opinion and it is no more than that) it is "ignorant and bigoted.

4 hours ago, KhaoHom said:

 

This is pure deflection 

 

What was done here was categorically and empirically wrong by western standards. Although these Jewish people are essentially supported by western tax payer money their lives and ethics are "souk based" where everything this negotiable and the most schemy and devious win the day. 

 

Young Israelis have for decades been the bane of the world travel destinations and travelers. They are banned from businesses and entire countries. 

 

After witnessing this BS myself and been victim of it many, many times JTs post is typical and is now being called out in the west. We have long since witnessed bad behavior by Jewish people. Each time it's called out we hear the typical whine and tarring of the anti semite brush. The post above is classic. 

 

After what the world has witnessed in Palestine the anti semitism whinge is no longer effective as is the tired Haulocaust©®™ card

 

These were horrible people doing horrible things 

 

Boo

 

Edited by Admin

 

A1 Co-Pilot

 

(I have no interest or axe to grind. re this topic....just intrigued as to how A1 would respond)

 

 

Yes, young Israeli tourists have developed a reputation for problematic behavior in several popular travel destinations, according to multiple reports and travel industry sources.

### 🌍 Destinations Reporting Issues

- **Thailand, India, Peru, Cyprus, Turkey, and the UK**  
  These countries have seen repeated complaints about young Israeli travelers, particularly in backpacker-heavy areas.

### 🗣️ Common Complaints

- **Behavioral issues**: Described as “shameless, undisciplined, noisy, and demanding” by some hotel and tourism operators.
- **Disrespect for local customs**: Incidents include camping illegally, photographing themselves nude at sacred sites, and disruptive partying.
- **Damage and recklessness**: Reports of property damage, including luxury car rentals being mishandled.
- **Unofficial bans**: Some hotels and hostels have quietly adopted policies of refusing young Israeli guests due to past experiences.

 

 

14 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Be clear that there is no country in the world that has banned Israelis because of bad behavior of tourists.

ZERO.

Be clear that no one has said that any countries have. ZERO.

22 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

I am British.

If I post some news about Brits and appalling behavior in Thailand then I am accused of British bashing!

 

This is next level stuff though.

 

It is the Thais country, they are very tolerant of badly behaving tourists, but these signs indicate the Israelis have pushed them too far. 

In my twenty one years of living in Thailand, the worst foreigners I have encountered while living here are the Brits. There are good and bad in any nationality. 

4 hours ago, KhaoHom said:

 

Although these Jewish people are essentially supported by western tax payer money their lives and ethics are "souk based" where everything this negotiable and the most schemy and devious win the day. ...............................................

 

After what the world has witnessed in Palestine the anti semitism whinge is no longer effective as is the tired Haulocaust©®™ card

 

 

 

 

    Makes an extremely Anti semitic post , right out of one of Hitlers  speeches . Then goes on to to suggest that Anti Semitism is acceptable because the Gaza war and then a Holocaust mention in for good measure .

22 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I'm not making up anything, be specific if you wI

What they are doing is legal no matter how emphatically you state that (in your opinion and it is no more than that) it is "ignorant and bigoted.

OMG! Do you have reading comprehension issues?!?

Yes you did indeed create a FAKE argument that doesn't exist (rather it exists in your mind ONLY). So I guess you just get your jollies by arguing even when there is nothing to argue about. Weird.

Again, I agree 100 percent that they can be discriminatory as long as it's legal in their locality. I've said this many times already! To add, I'm not aware of any locality in Thailand where discrimination based on nationality would not be legal, so it's fair to assume that these ignorant and bigoted businesses are well within their rights in such actions.

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Makes an extremely Anti semitic post , right out of one of Hitlers  speeches . Then goes on to to suggest that Anti Semitism is acceptable because the Gaza war and then a Holocaust mention in for good measure .

Exactly. He sounds like Mein Kempf is his source material. 

24 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I'm not making up anything, be specific if you want to accuse me of posting falsehoods.  

What they are doing is legal no matter how emphatically you state that (in your opinion and it is no more than that) it is "ignorant and bigoted.

Yes, legal. DUH.

Yes, calling their actions ignorant and bigoted is my opinion. DUH.

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

24 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I'm not making up anything, be specific if you wI

What they are doing is legal no matter how emphatically you state that (in your opinion and it is no more than that) it is "ignorant and bigoted.

OMG! Do you have reading comprehension issues?!?

Yes you did indeed create a FAKE argument that doesn't exist (rather it exists in your mind ONLY).

That "fake argument" was what? 

"OMG!"?  Give us a break.

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I'm not aware of any locality in Thailand where discrimination based on nationality would not be legal, so it's fair to assume that these ignorant and bigoted businesses are well within their rights in such actions.

It is unfair to allege that those businesses are "ignorant and bigoted" as opposed to making a considered business decision.

3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That "fake argument" was what? 

"OMG!"?  Give us a break.

You implied that I didn't think the businesses have the authority to do what they do. I never said such a thing. You MADE UP a false POV that I never had. Sleazy.

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It is unfair to allege that those businesses are "ignorant and bigoted" as opposed to making a considered business decision.

 

   I considered business decision would be to have signs up saying "Paying customers only " and for the staff to make sure customers pay .

    Management make sure there's no non eaters and no non payers

8 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It is unfair to allege that those businesses are "ignorant and bigoted" as opposed to making a considered business decision.

It is your OPINION that my opinion is unfair.

But my opinion stands.

Decent people understand that you don't punish entire groups of people based on bad experiences with some people from that group.

An example -- only two times in my life have I been robbed. One was a theft from my car in Portugal. The second was a mugging in Brazil.

You won't find me banning Portuguese speakers from any business I might run.

That would be ignorant and bigoted.

Another example from my life. My Dad did quite a bit of business with gypsies when I was growing up. He hired them for odd jobs. There was never any problem. I was aware and I'm sure he was aware of the bad reputation of gypsies but the gypsies that my Dad chose to deal with were actually good people. To have avoided doing business with ALL gypsies would have been ignorant and bigoted and I'm very grateful to my Dad for teaching me that life lesson.

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I considered business decision would be to have signs up saying "Paying customers only " and for the staff to make sure customers pay .

    Management make sure there's no non eaters and no non payers

Agreed. Ethical policies are based on behaviors, not the identities of customers.

23 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Total bull. 
What percentage of Israeli tourists and expats in Thailand do you reckon aren't Jews? Surely they exist but obviously a very small portion. Everyone know we are talking about Jews.

Everybody understands the discussion is about Israelis  and the concerns by Restaurant operators at the behaviour some of them are demonstrating and not if they were Jewish.

 

1 minute ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Everybody understands the discussion is about Israelis  and the concerns by Restaurant operators at the behaviour some of them are demonstrating and not if they were Jewish.

 

Your reply has NOTHING to do with the post I was replying to. 

22 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Everybody understands the discussion is about Israelis  and the concerns by Restaurant operators at the behaviour some of them are demonstrating and not if they were Jewish.

 

 

   Are you concerned about the business's profits or are you just enjoying attacking Israelis /Jews ?

47 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Are you concerned about the business's profits or are you just enjoying attacking Israelis /Jews ?

I am primarily concerned with confronting attempts to minimize the distortion of facts into biased claims of antisemitic horn blowing. Do you raise objections to the critical commentaries involving other nationalities or races including the Thai hosts?

 

 

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Your reply has NOTHING to do with the post I was replying to. 

Pfft !

13 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

I am primarily concerned with confronting attempts to minimize the distortion of facts into biased claims of antisemitic horn blowing. Do you raise objections to the critical commentaries involving other nationalities or races including the Thai hosts?

 

 

An apologist.

 

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

An apologist.

 

Are you? Strange moment to declare yourself !