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Why did you move to Thailand?

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3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Of course I haven't, because the "partner" fantasy is purely a male fantasy.

 

The male ideal would love to have a "female partner", who bears all costs and losses equally, and is just in it for partnership benefits.

 

However, there is no woman alive who has that fantasy, they don't want a partnership, they want a CEO of a major company, with helicopter and private jet.

 

Partnership, lol. You gotta laugh. The fantasies some men come up with.

 

It's a fantasy for you because it's something that you have not ever experienced. That's sad, but there must be a reason for that. You must 'deserve' such treatment until you learn a better way to be.

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Just now, JakeC said:

 

Now you are just making things up to make yourself feel better about your own situation. You obviously pay for everything...always.

 

Nope, you said it yourself: 

 

5 minutes ago, JakeC said:

Just pay alternately.

 

So you're paying at least every second meal out she has. Probably a lot more, 

 

Sweet deal for her.

Just now, JakeC said:

 

It's not cowardly, I'm just telling you how I see it. You see things from your perspective and I see them from mine. I don't use bad words nor abuse. I'm simply using the colloquial term for someone who is in an unequal relationship.

And you have assumed things about me all along. How you see things is a lot different than how a normal person does. You try and put others down here who disagree with you, when you've been wrong, then try and turn it on them, which is one symptom of a personality disorder. You're doing it with two others here. I don't think you realize how you look here.

1 minute ago, JakeC said:

It's a fantasy for you

 

No, the "partnership" relationship is a very well documented male fantasy. It's the last thing women want.

 

 

11 hours ago, JakeC said:

 

Absolutely normal in my relationships. But we don't split the bill. Just pay alternately.

 

Sounds like a good arrangement.

Does she have a sister? 

 

11 hours ago, Cameroni said:

No, the "partnership" relationship is a very well documented male fantasy. It's the last thing women want.

 

It's an interesting channel.

He has a very unconventional way of thinking of relationships and talks about stuff no one ever does.

Most people have simplistic notions of relationships.

Maybe that's why so many fail. 

 

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Nope, you said it yourself: 

 

 

So you're paying at least every second meal out she has. Probably a lot more, 

 

Sweet deal for her.

 

..and she would be paying for every second meal that I have... 

You are really trying to feel better about yourself and your situation. But we both know...

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No, the "partnership" relationship is a very well documented male fantasy. It's the last thing women want.

 

 

 

Wrong. Trying getting away from YouTube and social media and gain experience with normal people who cannot be bought.

You've been scraping the barrel for too long.

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Just now, JakeC said:

and she would be paying for every second meal that I have... 

 

I'm sure, I'm sure. And when she pays you go to the food court, and when you pay it's Pizza hour suddenly, right?

 

Look, don't pretend you're not paying. We all know you are. You're just another shyster trying to sell the "Oh we're total equal partners, I don't pay for her" Spiel, if it makes you feel better live in your fantasy world.

 

In the real world we all know you're paying.

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Sounds like a good arrangement.

Does she have a sister? 

 

 

Yes, married.

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

I'm sure, I'm sure. And when she pays you go to the food court, and when you pay it's Pizza hour suddenly, right?

 

Look, don't pretend you're not paying. We all know you are. You're just another shyster trying to sell the "Oh we're total equal partners, I don't pay for her" Spiel, if it makes you feel better live in your fantasy world.

 

In the real world we all know you're paying.

 

No, you don't know that. But you tell yourself that in order to feel better about your own situation. I don't mind, as it doesn't change my reality.

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

It's an interesting channel.

He has a very unconventional way of thinking of relationships and talks about stuff no one ever does.

Most people have simplistic notions of relationships.

Maybe that's why so many fail. 

 

 

He's on the money. And of course he has dissected this male "partnership" fantasy with a scalpel.

 

It's just a fantasy, sadly. The woman may be able to fool the man so he thinks that they are equal partners, but of course that is never the case. See even here  Jake admits he pays for her meals out. No doubt she does NOT pay half his meals, and he pays a lot more than her meals.

 

But hey, Jake wants us all to believe she just likes his haircut. Sure. I mean, some people don't like living in reality, they like to live in a fantasy world. I get it. Sometimes I pretend I'm Batman too.

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

He's on the money. And of course he has dissected this male "partnership" fantasy with a scalpel.

 

It's just a fantasy, sadly. The woman may be able to fool the man so he thinks that they are equal partners, but of course that is never the case. See even here  Jake admits he pays for her meals out. No doubt she does NOT pay half his meals, and he pays a lot more than her meals.

 

But hey, Jake wants us all to believe she just likes his haircut. Sure. I mean, some people don't like living in reality, they like to live in a fantasy world. I get it. Sometimes I pretend I'm Batman too.

 

It's a fantasy for you. In your fifties, trawling YouTube for help in making and keeping a relationship with a woman. That's sad isn't it? Teenagers yes, but you are old now. You should know.

It's not a fantasy if you can achieve and sustain it. Then it becomes one's reality. You obviously have not been able to achieve anything other than paying someone to be with you.

Why don't they want to be with you without you paying them? Is it something about you?

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Read the definition again. That doesn't mean all expats but certain ones. Just as I said. It's mostly tourists. Now change your username back to your regular 4 other ones. 

Oh please can we get some order in this Court !!

4 minutes ago, JakeC said:

 

It's a fantasy for you. In your fifties, trawling YouTube for help in making and keeping a relationship with a woman. That's sad isn't it? Teenagers yes, but you are old now. You should know.

It's not a fantasy if you can achieve and sustain it. Then it becomes one's reality. You obviously have not been able to achieve anything other than paying someone to be with you.

 

I think you're her side-chick, Jake. I would keep my eyes wide open, if I were you.

I was living and working in Belgium with my newly minted Thai wife (I met her in Rome, but that's another story).

 

The Brussels contract ended so it was a case of going to the UK where our savings would last 0.1us or take the plunge in Thailand. 

 

My Asian network was still active so we moved to Bangkok on spec.

 

I got a decent job within a month. And the rest, as they say, is history.

 

I'm now doing 4-5 days a month consulting (WFH) with a trip to sunny Egypt for a month twice a year. With no mortgage/rent or power bill to pay we are surviving just fine**.

 

** Somehow, in a moment of weakness (I'm sure nookie was involved), I agreed to pay Madam 30k Baht a month "housekeeping", she now has more in the bank than I do :whistling:

 

"I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I think you're her side-chick, Jake. I would keep my eyes wide open, if I were you.

 

That's the good thing about my relationships. Trust. I don't even have to think about that. The fact that you do means that it is something uppermost in your mind. How can you have a relationship without trust? Answer...you don't. You have an 'arrangement'.

I came after I sold my house. I thought I've had 20 years of living with the same woman in a totally equally partnership, I paid her half my house, I paid for half the meals, yes only half, strictly, and we shouldered all losses equally, not me mostly.

 

Then I came to Thailand, found another fine woman who only wanted to be my partner, we again paid each restaurant bill strictly alternately. She always insists on paying, really, she just likes my face so much.

 

The trust is wonderful. See, we don't live together, so I have no idea what she's up to, how could I not trust her?

 

I love the equal relationships here in Thailand. Don't you?

 

 

6 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

30 years ago people said it was better 30 years ago

Thirty years is of some significance, considering the Asian Financial Crisis occurred in 1997, 28 years ago. The exchange rate was good before, during and after that for many years.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I came after I sold my house. I thought I've had 20 years of living with the same woman in a totally equally partnership, I paid her half my house, I paid for half the meals, yes only half, strictly, and we shouldered all losses equally, not me mostly.

 

Then I came to Thailand, found another fine woman who only wanted to be my partner, we again paid each restaurant bill strictly alternately. She always insists on paying, really, she just likes my face so much.

 

The trust is wonderful. See, we don't live together, so I have no idea what she's up to, how could I not trust her?

 

I love the equal relationships here in Thailand. Don't you?

 

 

 

It seems that no one really likes you...from your own description. So you just pay and try to pretend that is the norm. but none of them actually like you, do they?

A woman who actually likes you, might accept you paying for the first date or two, but after that will insist on paying, even if you don't accept. In a real relationship they care about you and would not dream of asking you for money. For me, it is simply unheard of for that to happen. Though truth be told, it happened once, for such a derisory amount, that I understood them to be desperate. It didn't happen again. 

4 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Unfortunately not for the AUD 

Australians get more value in Vietnam or Philippines than 20 baht to a $1

The exchange rate is linked to the cost of living, not how many local units you get in different countries. I can live better and cheaper in Thailand than in the Philippines, and the quality of life is better for the same price. I don't know about Vietman - never been interested.

11 hours ago, JakeC said:

A woman who actually likes you, might accept you paying for the first date or two, but after that will insist on paying, even if you don't accept.

 

So now she's paying for MOST of the meals?

Lol.

 

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

 

So now she's paying for MOST of the meals?

Lol.

 

 

Nope, alternately...

3 hours ago, Hellfire said:

In other words, nothing ever gets worse?

Yeah, of course not, and not everything gets better.  A mantra is just something, or a saying, that's often repeated.  Kind of a generalisation I suppose, an expression of the balance of worse versus better.  Of course the reality is that some things are better, some are worse, and every individual has a different list, with some items on that list having different priorities or appear to be bigger issues.

10 hours ago, JakeC said:

 

Nope, alternately...

 

I'm not going to keep prodding you to try to find holes in your theory.

I haven't met too many girls like that. I really haven't. 

 

 

9 minutes ago, JakeC said:

It seems that no one really likes you..

 

That's because I'm a man, Jake. Nobody likes men, really.

 

I know you're saying the girls like you so much, that's quite a fantasy world you've built for yourself there. If she really liked you, Jake, you wouldn't be living apart, she'd make sure she's living with you. I suspect, you're her side-chick, and just good enough to pay for her meals out now and then.

 

9 minutes ago, JakeC said:

So you just pay and try to pretend that is the norm

 

I'm not pretending, it IS the norm. Ever since a stone age genius figured out that there was no need to fight the Alpha male, that women would open their legs for a good shrub of berries, if delivered in a timely fashion every Friday, men have adopted this strategy, and so have women. Resources for sexual access is THE norm, my dude. 

 

Your fantasy world notwithstanding.

 

9 minutes ago, JakeC said:

In a real relationship they care about you

 

Yes, she cares about you so much, she doesn't want to live with you.

 

9 minutes ago, JakeC said:

and would not dream of asking you for money.

 

No, that's never happened, women wouldn't dream of doing that clearly.

 

4 hours ago, ezzra said:

The bar scenes In BKK 30 years ago when B. Trink used to do his rounds in soi Nana, Soi Cowboy and in Patpong,

girls as fresh as you could Imagin and with friendly atitude, '' with mud between their toes" we use the term than,

and when you took them out home they were happy to have a proper hot water shower, eat falang food and

sleep in a comfy bed all night long and at times you had to kick them out to go back because they wanted to keep sleeping

and stay with you a bit longer, and the cost?

a 1,000 baht for all nite long including lady drinks, bar fine and the cost of the lady. 

 

Ahhh the good old days of taking advantage of impoverished girls who didnt know much better. 

 

I bet you complain now that they want more value. You're the type that now whines about 1k bar fines.

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Just now, Cameroni said:

 

That's because I'm a man, Jake. Nobody likes men, really.

 

I know you're saying the girls like you so much, that's quite a fantasy world you've builtl for yourself there. If she really liked you, Jake, you wouldn't be living apart, she'd make sure she's living with you. I suspect, you're her side-chick, and just good enough to pay for her meals out now and then.

 

 

I'm not pretending, it IS the norm. Ever since a stone age genius figured out that there was no need to fight the Alpha male, that women would open their legs for a good shrub of berries, if delivered in a timely fashion every Friday, men have adopted this strategy, and so have women. Resources for sexual access is THE norm, my dude. 

 

Your fantasy world notwithstanding.

 

 

Yes, she cares about you so much, she doesn't want to live with you.

 

 

No, that's never happened, women wouldn't dream of doing that clearly.

 

Guys all hate each other

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

Guys all hate each other

 

Yes, and women are not to keen on us either, except one guy they tolerate, and even then barely. But of course they sell it differently.

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