1 minute ago, Hummin said:

You are a true keyboard warrior!

You aren't. Your posts are rubbish! 😂

2 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

I already did. I pointed out that you lied on the thread, saying that you aren't in Thailand because of a woman. That was a lie.

I'm again, living in Thailand because of my daughter. I moved here to be with her and my ex. I was planning all along to move back home as Thailand doesn't have hunting nor the fishing I like. With them. Ex didn't do right, so I divorced her.

Thailand was on my bucket list long before I even moved to Texas in 1985. raising all my children had me staying there. Now that they are all out of the house, my visit to Thailand happened.

Are you that ignorant that you can't come up with anything else besides calling the truth a lie? You also said I lie a lot. Now that I again proved you wrong, try another deflection.

3 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

My formal education far surpasses yours. You just write wild things out of anger, like a girl.

You act like a little girl, hiding behind a keyboard because it's all you have. Quite different on this side. Talking like you do, I'm surprised you finished high school. I tell things exactly how they are. No anger, but the truth. You can't handle the truth. I can.You have no truth about me as your weakness lies in your approach, tactics and lack of knowledge on psychology.

7 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

I call you a liar, because you lie. Because you omits facts.

Similarly, when you adjudge your ex partners, you do so without taking your own faults into account.

Again I ask you. Were you there? No, so you know nothing besides what I've said right? Think a minute, with all your formal education, as this is high school thinking. You have pointed out yourself, what type of personality you have. I have also done this, to help others not fall for your actions here. But keep it up, as the longer you talk, the more you expose yourself. At least until you once again change names and come back in another personality. albeit transparent.

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I'm again, living in Thailand because of my daughter. I moved here to be with her and my ex. I was planning all along to move back home as Thailand doesn't have hunting nor the fishing I like. With them. Ex didn't do right, so I divorced her.

Thailand was on my bucket list long before I even moved to Texas in 1985. raising all my children had me staying there. Now that they are all out of the house, my visit to Thailand happened.

Are you that ignorant that you can't come up with anything else besides calling the truth a lie? You also said I lie a lot. Now that I again proved you wrong, try another deflection.

Your visit to Thailand was preceded by you trying to hook up with women online to meet you on arrival. But you hooked up with a hotel worker instead and made her pregnant, producing a child. So now you live in Thailand because of that child.

Meaning that you live in Thailand because of the women and not temples and beaches...

You just cannot admit the truth to yourself, can you? You haven't proved me wrong. You've proved to everyone how you bend the truth to your own ends.

Just now, fredwiggy said:

Again I ask you. Were you there? No, so you know nothing besides what I've said right? Think a minute, with all your formal education, as this is high school thinking. You have pointed out yourself, what type of personality you have. I have also done this, to help others not fall for your actions here. But keep it up, as the longer you talk, the more you expose yourself. At least until you once again change names and come back in another personality. albeit transparent.

Anyway @fredwiggy Your posts are really nonsense and I tire of replying to nonsense. Really 😊 Enjoy the rest of your day.

2 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Your visit to Thailand was preceded by you trying to hook up with women online to meet you on arrival. But you hooked up with a hotel worker instead and made her pregnant, producing a child. So now you live in Thailand because of that child.

Meaning that you live in Thailand because of the women and not temples and beaches...

You just cannot admit the truth to yourself, can you? You haven't proved me wrong. You've proved to everyone how you bend the truth to your own ends.

Arte you that dense that you can't understand the simple way I explained myself just now? My visit to Thailand was planned DECADES ago. I planned to visit here, a YEAR before I actually came here. I bought a round trip ticket to come here. THEN I talked to a couple women online.

My intentions to visit Thailand were exactly as I said. My meeting a woman here and falling in love are why I returned. My reason for staying this long is until I can re-establish with my daughter back home.

Bending the truth is a lie. Deflecting is you lying, turning the truth around because you're too stupid to understand what people say, and are jealous that some men actually treat women well, and can't fathom that there are quite a few really messed up women in this world. People just like you.

I've always proven you wrong. but your "formal" education is lying to you.

8 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Anyway @fredwiggy Your posts are really nonsense and i tire of replying to nonsense. Really 😊

Then go find some high school teens to fool, as it isn't working here.

Just now, fredwiggy said:

Arte you that dense that you can't understand the simple way I explained myself just now? My visit to Thailand was planned DECADES ago. I planned to visit here, a YEAR before I actually came here. I bought a round trip ticket to come here. THEN I talked to a couple women online. Bending the truth is a lie. Deflecting is you lying, turning the truth around because you're too stupid to understand what people say, and are jealous that some men actually treat women well, and can't fathom that there are quite a few really messed up women in this world. People just like you. I've alwaqys proven you wrong. but your "formal" education is lying to you.

Okay, let's take your story as you tell it. Before you arrived, you tried to hook up with women online and when you arrived, you got a hotel worker pregnant and got further involved with her. Now you have to stay in Thailand because of that.

No matter which way you spin it, you are living in Thailand due to your attraction to Thai women.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Enjoy your day fred.

2 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Okay, let's take your story as you tell it. Before you arrived, you tried to hook up with women online and when you arrived, you got a hotel worker pregnant and got further involved with her. Now you have to stay in Thailand because of that.

No matter which way you spin it, you are living in Thailand due to your attraction to Thai women.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Enjoy your day fred.

I talked to women online so i could share some sights with them. I met one in an area I wanted to see. I met my ex during that stay. I came back 2 more times then married her. I don't have to stay but am staying until we can move back into a new house and school in the area my other daughter and son live.

I'm living in Thailand because my daughter is here. I didn't come here because of any attraction for women. Millions visit here to see Thailand. Many men come primarily for the woman. I didn't, as I've stated a few times already. This is what I mean by a lack of comprehension skills. No one else is doubting me in this forum besides you and those other few. I wonder why.

Your inability to tell the difference between the truth and lies is your problem, and not mine. You can call it what you will, from bending the truth to an outright lie, but seeing I'm telling the truth all along, this is you deflecting because you can't handle being set straight.

It's a weakness, seeing your life as sour compared to others here, so you troll, hoping some might fall for your actions. That I haven't has you really angry, but you keep coming back again and again with the same exact statements, all false.

Let's hear about your life, but I doubt we'll hear the truth, as your kind has a real problem with that.

Why don't you 2 clowns piss of and go and ruin another topic. Both as bad as each other, 2 whinging pathetic morons.

2 minutes ago, theshu25 said:

Why don't you 2 clowns piss of and go and ruin another topic. Both as bad as each other, 2 whinging pathetic morons.

Something in your life making you angry? Surely it cannot be an Internet dialogue that you aren't forced to read. Check yourself.

8 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I talked to women online so i could share some sights with them. I met one in an area I wanted to see. I met my ex during that stay. I came back 2 more times then married her. I don't have to stay but am staying until we can move back into a new house and school in the area my other daughter and son live.

I'm living in Thailand because my daughter is here. I didn't come here because of any attraction for women. Millions visit here to see Thailand. Many men come primarily for the woman. I didn't, as I've stated a few times already. This is what I mean by a lack of comprehension skills. No one else is doubting me in this forum besides you and those other few. I wonder why. Let's hear about your life, but I doubt we'll hear the truth, as your kind has a real problem with that.

That describes that you are in Thailand because of the women...

Just now, IsmeUno said:

Something in your life making you angry? Surely it cannot be an Internet dialogue that you aren't forced to read. Check yourself.

Yes,pathetic morons like you and the idiot you arguing with. Was a good topic until you arrived you flea.

1 minute ago, theshu25 said:

Yes,pathetic morons like you and the idiot you arguing with. Was a good topic until you arrived you flea.

You angry. 😊 That's your problem 😊 You were similarly angry at the OP. So the problem is not the discussion between fred and I. It's your own anger. Enjoy.

2 minutes ago, theshu25 said:

Why don't you 2 clowns piss of and go and ruin another topic. Both as bad as each other, 2 whinging pathetic morons.

Try looking at history and seeing why things get started. Then try to understand what I'm saying, defending myself against a person trolling, trying to put me down after hearing me tell how I live . Look at all the others who also talk to these types, as there are many, and comment to them like you just did. I was responding to Cameroni, and like he always does, he makes it personal against myself and others, nothing to do with the OP. Think before you post, as you don't understand the whys. You can also ignore what people post, and just look at others replies. Calling people idiots without knowing the reason they're arguing a certain way is pretty closed minded.

3 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

That describes that you are in Thailand because of the women...

No, it shows I'm still here because of my daughter. I first came to see Thailand. Work on those comprehension skills.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

No, it shows I'm still here because of my daughter. I first came to see Thailand. Work on those comprehension skills.

You first came to see Thailand and the women that you organised to meet on arrival...You returned because of the women and you live in Thailand because you produced a child with one of the women. Hence, women are the reason why you are still in Thailand. Why is it so hard to accept another way of looking at things?

Just now, IsmeUno said:

You first came to see Thailand and the women that you organised to meet on arrival...You returned because of the women and you live in Thailand because you produced a child with one of the women. Hence, women are the reason why you are still in Thailand. Why is it so hard to accept another way of looking at things?

Are you actually reading what I've written or using the force? Go back and read my last few posts, slowly, and you'll see exactly what I did, which is always the way I respond here. Facts and not opinions or exaggerations. A daughter is the reason I'm still here, not a woman but a little girl. If it was a woman that was keeping me here, I would have stated that.

It's hard for you to accept what's true. remember it's me who knows my life and why I do things. You haven't met me so know nothing besides what I'VE said. Try that for once.

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Try looking at history and seeing why things get started. Then try to understand what I'm saying, defending myself against a person trolling, trying to put me down after hearing me tell how I live . Look at all the others who also talk to these types, as there are many, and comment to them like you just did. I was responding to Cameroni, and like he always does, he makes it personal against myself and others, nothing to do with the OP. Think before you post, as you don't understand the whys. You can also ignore what people post, and just look at others replies. Calling people idiots without knowing the reason they're arguing a certain way is pretty closed minded.

This started because I asked you a question a while ago regarding the psychological implications of living with someone who will never admit that they are wrong in any discussion. Whether that might have had an effect on your previous partner's behaviour.

For you, that trolling. For me, it's a normal open discussion.

Just now, IsmeUno said:

This started because I asked you a question a while ago regarding the psychological implications of living with someone who will never admit that they are wrong in any discussion. Whether that might have had an effect on your previous partner's behaviour.

For you, that trolling. For me, it's a normal open discussion.

Again, were you there? No, so you don't know what went on right? Try thinking about that before, once again, assuming. I'm thinking people in your past, major influencers, lied to you a lot, which broke down your trusting ability, which again, brings us back to your childhood. Now that I've answered all your questions, truthfully, and you still can't understand it, let's get back to the OP, Cameronis dilemma.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Are you actually reading what I've written or using the force? Go back and read my last few posts, slowly, and you'll see exactly what I did, which is always the way I respond here. Facts and not opinions or exaggerations. A daughter is the reason I'm still here, not a woman but a little girl. If it was a woman that was keeping me here, I would have stated that. It's hard for you to accept what's true. Try that for once.

I don't disagree that your daughter is the reason why you are still here. But the question asked was:

If you strip it back and answer without any fluff, would you honestly have ended up living in Thailand long term if you had zero interest in the women?

No attraction. No wife hunting angle. No romantic curiosity. None of it.

Your reply on that thread was less than honest.

Let's move on from that, shall we?

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Again, were you there? No, so you don't know what went on right? Try thinking about that before, once again, assuming. I'm thinking people in your past, major influencers, lied to you a lot, which broke down your trusting ability, which again, brings us back to your childhood. Now that I've answered all your questions, truthfully, and you still can't understand it, let's get back to the OP, Cameronis dilemma.

I agree. I've made my points as clearly as I could and you...did your best. No point in continuing to take over the thread.

Just now, IsmeUno said:

I agree. I've made my points as clearly as I could and you...did your best. No point in continuing to take over the thread.

Patronizing doesn't work here, as you still are missing my points, and the truths I've said. Trying to act superior, "I did my best". lol. That also doesn't work. You keep forgetting who knows more about psychology. In the future, son't reply to me, as it's you that's trolling myself and others and keeps the conversation going with assumptions and turning of the truths around. Just say no.

5 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

I don't disagree that your daughter is the reason why you are still here. But the question asked was:

Your reply on that thread was less than honest.

Let's move on from that, shall we?

I didn't have zero interest in the women. I met my ex after I visited here. If I had no interest in the woman, I would have left and never came back. No plans to stay, especially if the daughter wasn't born. I would have asked my ex to move to the US. Her getting pregnant changed things, as she said she didn't want to leave Thailand, at least at that time.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

I didn't have zero interest in the women. I met my ex after I visited here. If I had no interest in the woman, I would have left and never came back. No plans to stay, especially if the daughter wasn't born. I would have asked my ex to move to the US. Her getting pregnant changed things, as she said she didn't want to leave Thailand, at least at that time.

So, we agree. That you would not have been living in Thailand if it were not for your interest in the women.

I actually have no idea as to why you are arguing about it.

If you weren't interested in the women, you would not have made efforts to meet some online, ready for your arrival.

But in your reply, you omitted ALL of that and made out that you were only interested in

No. Always wanted to visit for culture, beaches, food, see a few temples, Kanchanaburi and the area history, hill tribes and a few other sites.

Virtue signalling.

1 minute ago, IsmeUno said:

So, we agree. That you would not have been living in Thailand if it were not for your interest in the women.

I actually have no idea as to why you are arguing about it.

If you weren't interested in the women, you would have made efforts to meet some online, ready for your arrival.

But in your reply, you omitted ALL of that and made out that you were only interested in

Virtue signalling.

Still missing the main reasons why I wanted to visit Thailand. Nothing to do with the women, which came as an afterthought after i bought the trip ticket. Again, seeing you have trouble understanding you can't think for others, nor fathom why they do things. Think you don't understand what virtue signalling is, so go look it up. I'm not looking for approval or admiration here in any way. Exactly what you did just there.............Debate Over Intent: Critics argue it is a form of narcissism and disingenuous behavior. However, proponents suggest that public displays of support can still raise awareness, and that accusing others of virtue signaling can itself be a form of social posturing. Back to OP.

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Still missing the main reasons why I wanted to visit Thailand. Nothing to do with the women, which came as an afterthought after i bought the trip ticket. Again, seeing you have trouble understanding you can't think for others, nor fathom why they do things. Think you don't understand what virtue signalling is, so go look it up. Exactly what you did just there.............Debate Over Intent: Critics argue it is a form of narcissism and disingenuous behavior. However, proponents suggest that public displays of support can still raise awareness, and that accusing others of virtue signaling can itself be a form of social posturing. Back to OP.

One of the main reasons was the women. You told us before that you were attracted to them. Not only that, but by your actions of trying to hook up with local women before you arrived and having sex with a hotel worker on arrival and making her pregnant, I think we can safely conclude that the women were part of your reason for travelling to Thailand.

Just now, IsmeUno said:

One of the main reasons was the women. You told us before that you were attracted to them. Not only that, but by your actions of trying to hook up with local women before you arrived and having sex with a hotel worker on arrival and making her pregnant, I think we can safely conclude that the women were part of your reason for travelling to Thailand.

No, the main reasons were what I posted. Attraction to Thai women is the same as my liking all pretty women from all nationalities and races. Again, don't think you can think for me. You aren't a mind reader and in fact likely cannot accept that some lives are more interesting than yours. People tell you exactly why they did things and you think otherwise. That's pretty disturbed thinking.

I'm thinking you have very little experience with women and what happens in attraction. IT happens without planning.

There is no "we" again. Let others speak for themselves, as you are in no position to be a leader here, nor a part of any crowd besides those few.

Just now, fredwiggy said:

No, the main reasons were what I posted. Attraction to Thai women is the same as my liking all pretty women from all nationalities and races. Again, don't think you can think for me. You aren't a mind reader and in fact likely cannot accept that some lives are more interesting than yours. People tell you exactly why they did things and you think otherwise. That's pretty disturbed thinking.

There is no "we" again. Let others speak for themselves, as you are in no position to be a leader here, nor a part of any crowd besides those few.

I disagree. You returned again and again to meet that woman. So women have been integral to your visits.

Why does it matter to you what I think?

Sorry what? What makes your life more interesting than mine? You being shacked up in the middle of nowhere, being in a place that you don't want to be? What is wrong with you? Do you just say anything and hope that it sticks?