October 30, 2025Oct 30 31 minutes ago, Cory1848 said: I actually agree with you -- a great many people with no personal connection whatsoever to either Israel or Palestine are hypercritical of the Israeli state while paying no attention to equally brutal conflicts elsewhere in the world, in a manner that smacks of antisemitism. It is clearly antisemitism. 31 minutes ago, Cory1848 said: However, you’re wrong in saying that this is a “left-wing thing”; plenty of people on the left are antisemitic, but plenty of people on the right are, too. And don’t forget that antisemitism has been a stain on humanity for two millennia, well before the concepts of “liberal” and “conservative” developed in the contexts we’re familiar with today. I am talking about 2025. Yes we had the national socialists in the 30's and 40's but in the modern day it is very much the left that perpetuate Jew hatred under the guise of being "anti Zionist" or "anti Israel". 31 minutes ago, Cory1848 said: And more, with respect to Darfur, I would suggest that you yourself are simply using that catastrophe as a backdrop to forward your own agenda -- namely, liberal-bashing. What do you think about Trump’s complete dismantling of USAID, which has directly led to more death and suffering in Darfur and elsewhere in Sudan? If you’re on board with that, then you are as dismissive of the plight of these brown people on the ground in Sudan as are the people you are rightly criticizing. That's an interesting point. Wrong, but interesting nonetheless and since it's of a much higher standard to the usual drivel on here (apart from your totally unnecessary use of the word brown) I will address it. I am of the opinion that nation states should look after themselves and I see foreign aid as poor people in rich countries giving money to rich people in poor countries. I am generally against it especially when you have people dying in the UK of the cold, homelessness or waiting for an operation while we give money to India (or more accurately their corrupt politicians) who have their own space program. My partner worked for an NGO in Bangkok for 2 years so I saw all the chauffeur driven execs, their kids in international schools, the wives spending time shopping and attending hiso functions, much of it funded by foreign aid from our governments. Hence I believe in minimum interference in foreign issues and in minimal foreign aid, be that the middle east, Asia or Africa. I was against Blair's war (crimes) in Iraq and I am against Starmer interfering in Ukraine or Palestine while the UK can't control it's own borders or look after it's own needy and slips towards third world status. So you can disagree with my stance, you might see it as somewhat cold hearted to put my own country first and everyone else an equally distant second but you must concede that I am consistent in my stance. I am not marching for Sudan, OR Palestine, OR Ukraine. I support the cuts to USAID equally. What I despise is the hypocrisy of the left claiming they care so much about the Palestinian people with barely a peep about the other conflicts in the world. I firmly believe the reason they care so much about this particular conflict is because the other side of the conflict are Jews. The evidence supports that.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 19 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Oh look who’s immediately jumped to using this for cover behind which to excuse war crimes and crimes against humanity elsewhere. No. The reality in the Darfur is that it is a case of flagrant prejudice. The people being killed are primarily black africans, most of whom are Christian or animists. The militias are Islamic centered. The victims are raped, tortured, sexually abused and sold into slavery. people like you do not attend rallies or speak out on their behalf. it is about the hypocrisy of the protestors. When is the last time, the Bengali, Pakistani and radical union and student groups marched in London on the issue of darfur? need a hint? There haven't been any rallies of significance in the UK or the USA or Australia or any major EU city. South Africa has said and done nothing. Where are the UK Labour MPs? The EU MPs? The US progressive democrat congressional members? Nothing. Nada. Not one word from the Arab community worldwide. During the Syrian civil war, western churches and synagogues were organizing to sponsor Syrian refugees. The muslim world wasn't. And the muslim world isn't helping the Darfur African refugees today.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 1 hour ago, Yagoda said: Got it. Give jew butchering traitors a home because that is acceptable in your culture. Profit is a lot cleaner. Bet you celebrate October 7 And in just two replies you stoop to making assumptions about my culture and accuse me of celebrating the atrocities of October 7. It appears that there is no point trying to have a reasoned discussion with you as your default option is generalised insults based on wrong assumptions. Perhaps you would also like to examine the role of the Catholic church in assisting Nazis escape to South America?
October 30, 2025Oct 30 38 minutes ago, animalmagic said: Perhaps you would also like to examine the role of the Catholic church in assisting Nazis escape to South America? Small potatoes next to Pius
October 30, 2025Oct 30 Popular Post On 10/29/2025 at 11:06 AM, JonnyF said: One of many brutal conflicts going on around the world that is widely ignored by the bleeding heart Liberals because the Jews, sorry I mean "Israel" are not involved. "Non Arab" communities. That's a new one... Not rocket science. The Israel genocide is being funded by the US, ignored by US and Israeli allies, that’s why it’s big news and people with integrity are demonstrating. Duh..
October 30, 2025Oct 30 2 hours ago, JonnyF said: am of the opinion that nation states should look after themselves and I see foreign aid as poor people in rich countries giving money to rich people in poor countries. I am generally against it especially when you have people dying in the UK of the cold, homelessness or waiting for an operation Unless they are Muslim, we know you mean white, lazy, drugged out real white Englishmen. Would you give a Bangladeshi/Sudanese looking beggar money?
October 30, 2025Oct 30 2 hours ago, JonnyF said: It is clearly antisemitism. I am talking about 2025. Yes we had the national socialists in the 30's and 40's but in the modern day it is very much the left that perpetuate Jew hatred under the guise of being "anti Zionist" or "anti Israel". That's an interesting point. Wrong, but interesting nonetheless and since it's of a much higher standard to the usual drivel on here (apart from your totally unnecessary use of the word brown) I will address it. I am of the opinion that nation states should look after themselves and I see foreign aid as poor people in rich countries giving money to rich people in poor countries. I am generally against it especially when you have people dying in the UK of the cold, homelessness or waiting for an operation while we give money to India (or more accurately their corrupt politicians) who have their own space program. My partner worked for an NGO in Bangkok for 2 years so I saw all the chauffeur driven execs, their kids in international schools, the wives spending time shopping and attending hiso functions, much of it funded by foreign aid from our governments. Hence I believe in minimum interference in foreign issues and in minimal foreign aid, be that the middle east, Asia or Africa. I was against Blair's war (crimes) in Iraq and I am against Starmer interfering in Ukraine or Palestine while the UK can't control it's own borders or look after it's own needy and slips towards third world status. So you can disagree with my stance, you might see it as somewhat cold hearted to put my own country first and everyone else an equally distant second but you must concede that I am consistent in my stance. I am not marching for Sudan, OR Palestine, OR Ukraine. I support the cuts to USAID equally. What I despise is the hypocrisy of the left claiming they care so much about the Palestinian people with barely a peep about the other conflicts in the world. I firmly believe the reason they care so much about this particular conflict is because the other side of the conflict are Jews. The evidence supports that. Your points are well made; we just disagree. I’m a globalist and feel that we are all responsible for each other. Sure, that’s pretty idealistic and maybe even naïve, and your characterization of aid money flowing to poor countries is probably accurate in many cases (I just spent a month in Nepal, one of the most corrupt countries on the planet), but I don’t think that means we should stop trying. Much of the USAID money sent to Sudan reached its target and made a difference. (I worked for USAID’s Regional Inspector General office in Singapore in 1989-1992 -- responsible for auditing USAID disbursements in the Asia region -- and they were pretty serious about accounting for the money and ensuring the effectiveness of their programs.) As for antisemitism, it may be that, with respect to the Israeli state, this is more of a left-wing phenomenon, but right-wing antisemitism seems based in all the same tropes and conspiracy theories that have been around for centuries (e.g., “Jews will not replace us” from that Charlottesville rally). I’m linking to an academic article on the topic that might be of interest. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/10659129221111081
October 30, 2025Oct 30 18 minutes ago, JimCM said: Not rocket science. The Israel genocide is being funded by the US, ignored by US and Israeli allies, that’s why it’s big news and people with integrity are demonstrating. Duh.. So it all comes down to hatred toward the United States, then? That’s exactly my point. Fanatical Muslims — the so-called “people with integrity” — view not only Israel but the entire Western world as their enemy, with the U.S. as its foremost symbol. Any Westerner who sides with such extremists is either fool or a traitor. Remember 9/11 !
October 30, 2025Oct 30 Notice Which Genocides You Are And Are Not Allowed To Oppose https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/notice-which-genocides-you-are-and
October 30, 2025Oct 30 3 hours ago, JonnyF said: Simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the #bekind keffir wearing Palestine flag waving lefties who bang on about Gaza all the time and then not a peep from them about all the other conflicts in the world. We all know why... ... and not a "peep" from the White House, therealdonaldtrump on X, or Truth Social either.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 On 10/29/2025 at 12:46 PM, philipsharpe said: Well Greta,how about 'Free Darfur'? She won't be bothering her self with this , at least not until its"trending", No money to be made out of it yet
October 30, 2025Oct 30 4 hours ago, NanLaew said: Why isn't Donald the Peacemaker all over this one? Stopping this conflict would make him a shoe-in for a Nobel gong. Since bleeding heart syndrome is a lefty affliction, maybe it's just good old conservative ignorance and apathy that's holding him back? Maybe he just can't be bothered anymore, and who could blame him,? He has received no recognition or gratitude from any of the unwashed, idiotic, keffir wearing morons, who in reality do not appear to want the conflict to end. President Trump receives nothing but grief and criticism from dawn till dusk If I was him I would simply wash my hands of this whole mess and let it sort itself out
October 30, 2025Oct 30 2 hours ago, JonnyF said: Hence I believe in minimum interference in foreign issues and in minimal foreign aid, be that the middle east, Asia or Africa. I was against Blair's war (crimes) in Iraq and I am against Starmer interfering in Ukraine or Palestine while the UK can't control it's own borders or look after it's own needy and slips towards third world status. What's your take on the US bombing Iran and Venezuelan assets and renaming the Secretary of Defence's office as the Department of War?
October 30, 2025Oct 30 1 minute ago, Bday Prang said: Maybe he just can't be bothered anymore, and who could blame him,? He has received no recognition or gratitude from any of the unwashed, idiotic, keffir wearing morons, who in reality do not appear to want the conflict to end. President Trump receives nothing but grief and criticism from dawn till dusk If I was him I would simply wash my hands of this whole mess and let it sort itself out Trump can't be bothered since when? Last Monday in Kuala Lumpur rubber-stamping the Thai-Cambodian peace accords? What happened on Air Force 1 on the way home that so terribly popped his bright, shiny Nobel balloon? Pull the other one, it's got bells on.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 2 minutes ago, NanLaew said: Trump can't be bothered since when? Last Monday in Kuala Lumpur rubber-stamping the Thai-Cambodian peace accords? What happened on Air Force 1 on the way home that so terribly popped his bright, shiny Nobel balloon? Pull the other one, it's got bells on. I said "MAYBE" Did you not see that word ? How on earth should I know why he is not getting involved?, You clearly don't know either or you would have not have bothered asking Its been clearly explained in other threads that the time period for nominations for the nobel peace prize had run out before his involvement in the situation there, He was never in line for it , I Imagine he would have known that from the beginning, as he is far from stupid, unlike the army of morons who he triggers so easily
October 30, 2025Oct 30 3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Says the guy who was the first person to introduce the off topic Jews into the thread. You are precisely that which you accuse others. Let's talk about them. Long overdue.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 14 minutes ago, Bday Prang said: I said "MAYBE" Did you not see that word ? How on earth should I know why he is not getting involved?, You clearly don't know either or you would have not have bothered asking Its been clearly explained in other threads that the time period for nominations for the nobel peace prize had run out before his involvement in the situation there, He was never in line for it , I Imagine he would have known that from the beginning, as he is far from stupid, unlike the army of morons who he triggers so easily Triggered.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 3 hours ago, Patong2021 said: No. The reality in the Darfur is that it is a case of flagrant prejudice. The people being killed are primarily black africans, most of whom are Christian or animists. The militias are Islamic centered. The victims are raped, tortured, sexually abused and sold into slavery. people like you do not attend rallies or speak out on their behalf. it is about the hypocrisy of the protestors. When is the last time, the Bengali, Pakistani and radical union and student groups marched in London on the issue of darfur? need a hint? There haven't been any rallies of significance in the UK or the USA or Australia or any major EU city. South Africa has said and done nothing. Where are the UK Labour MPs? The EU MPs? The US progressive democrat congressional members? Nothing. Nada. Not one word from the Arab community worldwide. During the Syrian civil war, western churches and synagogues were organizing to sponsor Syrian refugees. The muslim world wasn't. And the muslim world isn't helping the Darfur African refugees today. Darfur is obviously far from average people's concerns, compared to the Israel/Palestine issues which have been echoed internationally since the beginning. However, it's inaccurate to claim that other countries, and international institutions such as the UN or the EU, have been mute about it, even if they have been unable to stop this genocide. Here's a good summary of the conflict and genocide history, as well as international reactions. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/darfur
October 30, 2025Oct 30 Popular Post It should be reminded than Sudan is the third African gold producer, which may explain the alleged support to RSF by the UAE. "To solve the war in Sudan, we have to follow the gold, and we arrive at the UAE," said Marc Ummel, a researcher with development organisation Swissaid who tracks African gold smuggling to the Gulf country. https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250327-sudan-s-booming-wartime-gold-trade-flows-through-the-uae
October 30, 2025Oct 30 Popular Post On 10/29/2025 at 11:06 AM, JonnyF said: One of many brutal conflicts going on around the world that is widely ignored by the bleeding heart Liberals because the Jews, sorry I mean "Israel" are not involved. "Non Arab" communities. That's a new one... How U.A.E. Arms Bolstered a Sudanese Militia Accused of Genocide Gulf Arab state has funneled weapons, including Chinese-made drones, to rebel forces U.S. intelligence agencies say the United Arab Emirates sent increasing supplies of weapons including sophisticated Chinese drones to a major Sudanese militia this year, bolstering a group that has been accused of genocide and pouring fuel on a conflict that has created one of the world’s worst humanitarian crises. Separate reports, including from the Defense Intelligence Agency and the State Department’s intelligence bureau, show an increase in the flow of materiel from the U.A.E. to the rebel Rapid Support Forces since the spring, according to U.S. officials familiar with the intelligence. The materiel includes the advanced Chinese-made drones along with small arms, heavy machine guns, vehicles, artillery, mortars and ammunition, the officials said. https://archive.ph/91iv0#selection-733.0-737.444 It's a good thing that President Trump has expressed in no uncertain terms his displeasure with the the UAE's support of this murderous force. He told the President of the UAE in no uncertain terms that "You are a magnificent man and it's an honor to be with you." https://www.khaleejtimes.com/uae/trump-mohamed-bin-zayed-al-nahyan-honour That was in May. But Trump has subsequently made even clearer his displeasure with the UAE: This Gulf Nation Is Powering Trump’s Moneymaking Machine Eight years later, the United Arab Emirates, home to the metropolises of Dubai and Abu Dhabi, has become a hub for the Trump Organization’s international expansion. With first sons Don Jr. and Eric serving as emissaries, the president and his family have entered into at least nine agreements with ties to the gulf nation—some involving government entities in the country, many stemming from business relationships developed there. Together, the ventures, which include five licensing agreements and three cryptocurrency deals, will provide an estimated $500 million in 2025—and about $50 million annually for years into the future. https://archive.ph/Zzm3g#selection-3967.0-3967.632 And here's the topper. Out of all the companies offering Stablecoins guess which one the UAE chose? Trump's stablecoin chosen for $2 billion Abu Dhabi investment in Binance, co-founder says A stablecoin launched by Donald Trump's World Liberty Financial crypto venture is being used by an Abu Dhabi investment firm for its $2 billion investment in crypto exchange Binance, one of World Liberty's co-founders said on Thursday. It's the latest in a series of Trump family crypto-related ventures, including a "meme coin" launched in January, that have drawn criticism from government ethics experts and political opponents over potential conflicts of interest. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/wlfs-zach-witkoff-usd1-selected-official-stablecoin-mgx-investment-binance-2025-05-01/
October 30, 2025Oct 30 4 minutes ago, Knocker33 said: 3,2,1. The UK to receive 1 million refugees fleeing war in the Sudan Not millions, but I expect the UK to take its fair share.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 Well, on these sort of situations the left conveniently does the old "Nothing to see here, move along" MO pretending it isn't happening because it doesn't fit their narrative that demonizes either whites or Israel. Always a defending silence and refusal to help coming from the Arab world too and it seems perfectly okay to kill "Non-Arabs". Looks like everyone's indifference to such situations just facilitates it, so that they have-it-out until the last man standing wins.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 15 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Not millions, but I expect the UK to take its fair share. Following logic and the comments above I would expect the UK to Immediately deport a ' fair share" of those to the UAE. Wonder how many UAE passports it gives out every year?
October 30, 2025Oct 30 On 10/29/2025 at 4:50 AM, Chomper Higgot said: Oh look who’s immediately jumped to using this for cover behind which to excuse war crimes and crimes against humanity elsewhere. Says the Hamas supporter.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 37 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said: Says the Hamas supporter. Out with your libelous slur again I see.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Out with your libelous slur again I see. To be libelous it has to be untrue.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 2 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said: How U.A.E. Arms Bolstered a Sudanese Militia Accused of Genocide Gulf Arab state has funneled weapons, including Chinese-made drones, to rebel forces U.S. intelligence agencies say the United Arab Emirates sent increasing supplies of weapons including sophisticated Chinese drones to a major Sudanese militia this year, bolstering a group that has been accused of genocide and pouring fuel on a conflict that has created one of the world’s worst humanitarian crises. Separate reports, including from the Defense Intelligence Agency and the State Department’s intelligence bureau, show an increase in the flow of materiel from the U.A.E. to the rebel Rapid Support Forces since the spring, according to U.S. officials familiar with the intelligence. The materiel includes the advanced Chinese-made drones along with small arms, heavy machine guns, vehicles, artillery, mortars and ammunition, the officials said. https://archive.ph/91iv0#selection-733.0-737.444 It's a good thing that President Trump has expressed in no uncertain terms his displeasure with the the UAE's support of this murderous force. He told the President of the UAE in no uncertain terms that "You are a magnificent man and it's an honor to be with you." https://www.khaleejtimes.com/uae/trump-mohamed-bin-zayed-al-nahyan-honour That was in May. But Trump has subsequently made even clearer his displeasure with the UAE: This Gulf Nation Is Powering Trump’s Moneymaking Machine Eight years later, the United Arab Emirates, home to the metropolises of Dubai and Abu Dhabi, has become a hub for the Trump Organization’s international expansion. With first sons Don Jr. and Eric serving as emissaries, the president and his family have entered into at least nine agreements with ties to the gulf nation—some involving government entities in the country, many stemming from business relationships developed there. Together, the ventures, which include five licensing agreements and three cryptocurrency deals, will provide an estimated $500 million in 2025—and about $50 million annually for years into the future. https://archive.ph/Zzm3g#selection-3967.0-3967.632 And here's the topper. Out of all the companies offering Stablecoins guess which one the UAE chose? Trump's stablecoin chosen for $2 billion Abu Dhabi investment in Binance, co-founder says A stablecoin launched by Donald Trump's World Liberty Financial crypto venture is being used by an Abu Dhabi investment firm for its $2 billion investment in crypto exchange Binance, one of World Liberty's co-founders said on Thursday. It's the latest in a series of Trump family crypto-related ventures, including a "meme coin" launched in January, that have drawn criticism from government ethics experts and political opponents over potential conflicts of interest. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/wlfs-zach-witkoff-usd1-selected-official-stablecoin-mgx-investment-binance-2025-05-01/ No no! We've been told many times in this thread that it's lefties who have been silent about the Darfur genocide, not Trump! 🤣🤣🤣 Here's an example of lefties having been silent about it! "On January 7, 2025, Secretary of State Blinken determined that the RSF and their allied militias had committed genocide in Sudan. Since the start of the conflict, these groups have systematically committed murder and sexual violence. They have targeted civilians in Darfur based on ethnicity. They have also restricted aid access on the basis of ethnicity. Secretary of State Blinken also announced that the United States would sanction the RSF leader Mohammad Hamdan Daglo Mousa (known as Hemedti) and seven RSF companies based in the United Arab Emirates. Shortly after, the United States said it would also sanction Abdel Fattah Al-Burhan (Burhan). As leader of the Sudanese Armed Forces (SAF), Burhan played a large role in destabilizing Sudan. He was also responsible for war crimes committed by the SAF, including the obstruction of humanitarian aid." https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/darfur
October 30, 2025Oct 30 1 hour ago, Mike_Hunt said: I’m sure the lefties will be protesting in mass tomorrow. Where are conservatives protesting about it? 🙂
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