4 hours ago, atpeace said:

Isaan can be boring is correct. If you have hobbies that you enjoy, you can be happy almost anywhere. There are levels though :) Personally, my hobbies become less enjoyable in many Isaan cities but I survived and semi-thrived:) Isaan is huge and many parts don't even remotely resemble other parts. I've spent 6+ Years in Chiang Mai and Jomtien and both were fun but Isaan in an area that meets my needs is better than both the above IMO.

If you enjoy spectacular views and nature in general there are places in Isaan where a person can find these. One downside I didn't anticipate is that I would miss expats after seeing very few for 5 years.

Nightlife is pretty crap in Isaan. Plus limited English books and attractions are spread out. Udon is fine if you are ok with a basic life. The people are nice.

2 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Nightlife is pretty crap in Isaan. Plus limited English books and attractions are spread out. Udon is fine if you are ok with a basic life. The people are nice.

Night life in Udon ? 😜

Nobody moves to Isaan for the nightlife, they or me moved there for quality life, quiet, cheap land, and easy to build and use land for farming. A decent quiet good life with animals and food. Great base for even more traveling than living for instance in a tourist city where you most likely will be as bored as any other place after awhile. And Isaan give you contrasts in life, especially if you are not stuck.

Isaan gives you more freedom ;-)

However you need a serious wife in life or gf and her family must be ok to. Nothing comes from free, you gotta work for it.

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

Night life in Udon ? 😜

Nobody moves to Isaan for the nightlife, they or me moved there for quality life, quiet, cheap land, and easy to build and use land for farming. A decent quiet good life with animals and food. Great base for even more traveling than living for instance in a tourist city where you most likely will be as bored as any other place after awhile. And Isaan give you contrasts in life, especially if you are not stuck.

Isaan gives you more freedom ;-)

However you need a serious wife in life or gf and her family must be ok to. Nothing comes from free, you gotta work for it.

When single, I thought the nightlife was excellent in Udon.

@Harrisfan

6 hours ago, KhunLA said:

When single, I thought the nightlife was excellent in Udon.

@Harrisfan

Cool music and big bands?

2 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Cool music and big bands?

That also, at Tawan Daeng, but I was referring to sexy women, warm bodies, and waking up with smiles & good company.

And NO, not P4P, and at venues with no farangs, away from the tourist ghetto of soi slum/Samphan & cow shed.

16 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Nightlife is pretty crap in Isaan. Plus limited English books and attractions are spread out. Udon is fine if you are ok with a basic life. The people are nice.

Many attractions in my area of Isaan that are spectacular. Huge waterfalls and incredible scenery with loads of 4-5 star hotels and restaurants. Population is probably less than 6k. Probably right about the English books but I download everything and read on my Kindle.

Curious, not be condescending, what are your nightlife needs? I doubt you would like living where I live because being single would be a challenge. Not sure how a single expat could put together a life here. Sitting at an incredible restaurant or bar alone would get old.

5 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Many attractions in my area of Isaan that are spectacular. Huge waterfalls and incredible scenery with loads of 4-5 star hotels and restaurants. Population is probably less than 6k. Probably right about the English books but I download everything and read on my Kindle.

Curious, not be condescending, what are your nightlife needs? I doubt you would like living where I live because being single would be a challenge. Not sure how a single expat could put together a life here. Sitting at an incredible restaurant or bar alone would get old.

Huge waterfalls?

20 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Thailand's country is beautiful in many areas. One problem is that I can't enjoy my two main hobbies, hunting and fishing. There isn't any hunting because if there were animals, besides the ones in the provincial parks, they would all be eaten in a week's time.

As far as fishing it goes much the same way. Little conservation besides private lakes. The public ones are netted out of all fish, including the bait size for the larger ones. Saltwater fishing is okay if you spend enough to get offshore.

I wouldn't walk in many of the mountainous areas because of the amount of venomous snakes countrywide, plus mines in the southern border areas. If gardening and golf are your hobbies, you can enjoy them anywhere, including here.

I do miss fishing but I could adapt and might this year. Loads of fish in the Mekong and Mun rivers. One is across the street and the other very close. My pond has gigantic catfish, tilapia, and a few other types of fish. I don't enjoy pond or lake fishing but I let others fish in our pond. Don't let them use nets :)

Nothing like mountain streams and I've fished many in America.

3 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Huge waterfalls?

Yes, in length and some in volume depending on the time of year. But this is subjective. I place more value on beauty vs size but that is just me :) When I go running, I can run through some of the smaller ones to cool off which is a pleasant experience. I have one tiny waterfall that I sit under at the end of my run where I park my motorbike. I like it here and don't feel the desire to be constantly chasing satisfaction. I get why many wouldn't stay here.

2 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Yes, in length and some in volume depending on the time of year. But this is subjective. I place more value on beauty vs size but that is just me :) When I go running, I can run through some of the smaller ones to cool off which is a pleasant experience. I have one tiny waterfall that I sit under at the end of my run where I park my motorbike. I like it here and don't feel the desire to be constantly chasing satisfaction. I get why many wouldn't stay here.

Where is this?

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Where is this?

Not going to post that because I would rather stay anonymous. You could figure it out within 100 kilometers from the info I provided. I have lived in some beautiful areas and this is my favorite other than Sedona, Az ( specifically Oak Creek Canyon )where I lived for a while. Doubt I would enjoy it much today with the hordes of tourists.

5 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Not going to post that because I would rather stay anonymous. You could figure it out within 100 kilometers from the info I provided. I have lived in some beautiful areas and this is my favorite other than Sedona, Az ( specifically Oak Creek Canyon )where I lived for a while. Doubt I would enjoy it much today with the hordes of tourists.

Khong Jiam

8 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Khong Jiam

Not going to play the guessing game and please respect my wishes to stay anonymous - thanks. Send me a DM if ever east of Ubon and I'll show you around. Starts to get really brown soon and the burning starts which is not too bad but no fun. Even now I find it spectacular.

Ive been there

Bueng Kan has a nice waterfall too.

9 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Bueng Kan has a nice waterfall too.

It does but too far away for me and doesn't have as much around as where I live. Bueng kan is nice!

I can just walk across the street and I'm in my perfection.

U have a square head!

Khong Smith is nice. Dont like xyz city.

Bluexyz resort 460 baht with pool

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Khong Jiam is nice. Dont like Ubon city.

I didn't say I lived in Khong Chiam :) Like i said before - respect my desire to be anonymous - please. Please edit your posts to take out any guesses - up to you :) Many cool places within 100 kilometers as it seems you are aware.

Xyz River is in Khong Smith. You are anon.

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

Mun River is in Khong Jiam. You are anon.

Ok, nevermind. Do as you will. Like I said up to you and it was just a request :)

Zyx river is in Jones Smith town. Fixed.

Chiang Khan is nice too. Lovely restaurants there.

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

Chiang Khan is nice too. Lovely restaurants there.

That is a huge drive. many incredible areas in that part of the country but not a place I think I could live.

I chased many adventures but now I want to work on being satisfied and enjoying what is near my home. Still travel but for me I have come to the conclusion that I have everything I need near me and throw in a random trip every 3-6 months. Works for me.

2 hours ago, atpeace said:

I do miss fishing but I could adapt and might this year. Loads of fish in the Mekong and Mun rivers. One is across the street and the other very close. My pond has gigantic catfish, tilapia, and a few other types of fish. I don't enjoy pond or lake fishing but I let others fish in our pond. Don't let them use nets :)

Nothing like mountain streams and I've fished many in America.

I'm mainly a Bass and Pike family fisherman but fish for many other species, including saltwater. Miss it which is yet another reason to move back. Thailand has quite a few pay and fish places, including one I went to in Phuket, where I caught some huge Catfish and Carp. If they stocked Bass here they would grow huge but they don't think that way as it's mostly fishing to eat here, besides those pay & fish where you release everything and it's just for the fight.

13 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I'm mainly a Bass and Pike family fisherman but fish for many other species, including saltwater. Miss it which is yet another reason to move back. Thailand has quite a few pay and fish places, including one I went to in Phuket, where I caught some huge Catfish and Carp. If they stocked Bass here they would grow huge but they don't think that way as it's mostly fishing to eat here, besides those pay & fish where you release everything and it's just for the fight.

In Oak Creek Canyon in Arizona I lived at the border of a pay to fish pond. I would pay not to do that :) Caught 100s of trout every week and had huge fish fries every Sunday. Trout isn't the tastiest fish but breaded and fried with loads of ketchup it was OK. I do miss those quiet streams.

2 minutes ago, atpeace said:

In Oak Creek Canyon in Arizona I lived at the border of a pay to fish pond. I would pay not to do that :) Caught 100s of trout every week and had huge fish fries every Sunday. Trout isn't the tastiest fish but breaded and fried with loads of ketchup it was OK. I do miss those quiet streams.

The stocked trout are fed pellets, which give them a mushy, bland flavor. Wild trout are much better, although many places most of what you get are stocked. I rarely ate bass, preferring to release them and usually ate saltwater fish, salmon or trout. The Walleye I had fishing in Canada were about the best freshwater I ever had. The Pike have too many bones yet taste okay.I haven't eaten fried fish for a long time but Catfish were good when I did.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

The stocked trout are fed pellets, which give them a mushy, bland flavor. Wild trout are much better, although many places most of what you get are stocked. I rarely ate bass, preferring to release them and usually ate saltwater fish, salmon or trout. The Walleye I had fishing in Canada were about the best freshwater I ever had. The Pike have too many bones yet taste okay.I haven't eaten fried fish for a long time but Catfish were good when I did.

I have 100s of huge catfish in our pond. I hated cleaning them when young and the texture of the skin gives me the creeps. Let the locals that work at our place catch them which was nearly impossible but over the years our pond is almost weed free which makes it much easier. Pike is OK and we would occasionally go to Lake Mary in Flagstaff, AZ and pool some out. I never tasted Walleye.

2 minutes ago, atpeace said:

I have 100s of huge catfish in our pond. I hated cleaning them when young and the texture of the skin gives me the creeps. Let the locals that work at our place catch them which was nearly impossible but over the years our pond is almost weed free which makes it much easier. Pike is OK and we would occasionally go to Lake Mary in Flagstaff, AZ and pool some out. I never tasted Walleye.

First time I had Walleye was in Manitoba. We all met on an island with Walleye still alive on stringers. They were killed, filleted, then put in a bag of flour,pepper and salt. As fresh as can be and one of the best tasting fish anyway. Brought some home to Texas on the plane. Pike had to be released. I'm waiting to fish with my oldest friend in Colorado when we return, for river trout.