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‘A massacre in slow motion’

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46 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:


Sick and twisted [omitted to comply with forum rules]

 

Really ?

Pick any continent you'd like, do you care about the people dying there too ? I doubt it.

Kinda telling when you pick one group to support unequally don't ya think ?

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  • "hundreds of thousands of tons of food. "   So how can they possibly be starving ? or is that the loot Hamas stole and is openly selling on the black market for profit.    

  • Let me get this straight, you are not condemning what I posted above about Israel purposely kept Gaza on the brink of starvation for months?   To answer you attempt at deflection, yes, Saudi

  • How dare you?   It is not his mistake that you fail to understand the new moral compass:   If a strong person publicly beats a much weaker person into coma, he is not to blame. The

30 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 Yet...........................no one has starved .

For Over 2 years now they've been on the brink of "a  major starvation catastrophe"................... and no one actually starved to death .

   File under *War time propaganda "

 

Documented Starvation Deaths

  • Al Jazeera (Aug–Sep 2025): Reported that at least 440 Palestinians, including 147 children, had died from starvation caused by Israel’s blockade on food supplies.

  • UN OCHA (July & Nov 2025 updates): Confirmed that starvation deaths were occurring daily, with local health authorities reporting new fatalities from hunger and malnutrition.

  • Physicians for Human Rights–Israel (Nov 2025): Found that nearly 100 Palestinians died in Israeli custody, many from starvation rations and medical neglect.

  • Humanitarian organizations: UNICEF and other aid groups documented infants and children wasting away from malnutrition, with hospitals overwhelmed by starvation-related cases.

 
 
 
 
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8 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Documented Starvation Deaths

  • Al Jazeera (Aug–Sep 2025): Reported that at least 440 Palestinians, including 147 children, had died from starvation caused by Israel’s blockade on food supplies.

  • UN OCHA (July & Nov 2025 updates): Confirmed that starvation deaths were occurring daily, with local health authorities reporting new fatalities from hunger and malnutrition.

  • Physicians for Human Rights–Israel (Nov 2025): Found that nearly 100 Palestinians died in Israeli custody, many from starvation rations and medical neglect.

  • Humanitarian organizations: UNICEF and other aid groups documented infants and children wasting away from malnutrition, with hospitals overwhelmed by starvation-related cases.

 
 
 
 
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The assertion that there is "no starvation in Gaza" is a subject of intense international dispute and conflicting reports, with significant evidence of a severe hunger crisis and declared famine conditions in parts of the territory. 
 
Key Positions and Evidence
  • Israeli Position: Israeli officials, including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, have consistently denied that there is a policy of starvation or widespread famine in Gaza. They argue that sufficient aid is entering Gaza and blame the UN and Hamas for distribution failures and aid diversion. The Israeli agency COGAT, which oversees aid access, suggests reported deaths are among children with pre-existing conditions and accuses Hamas of exaggerating figures for propaganda purposes.
5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:
The assertion that there is "no starvation in Gaza" is a subject of intense international dispute and conflicting reports, with significant evidence of a severe hunger crisis and declared famine conditions in parts of the territory. 
 
Key Positions and Evidence
  • Israeli Position: Israeli officials, including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, have consistently denied that there is a policy of starvation or widespread famine in Gaza. They argue that sufficient aid is entering Gaza and blame the UN and Hamas for distribution failures and aid diversion. The Israeli agency COGAT, which oversees aid access, suggests reported deaths are among children with pre-existing conditions and accuses Hamas of exaggerating figures for propaganda purposes.

 

You are joking.

 

Israel's position? Israel has consistently lied and been caught in them.

 

Netanyahu, a wanted war criminal.

 

Doctors don't lie.

 

So you say Israel IS holding back aid, but it's not causing starvation.  Is that your position Nick?

4 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Netanyahu, a wanted war criminal.

 

  No , Netanyahu isn't a wanted war criminal .

7 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Israel's position? Israel has consistently lied and been caught in them.

 

   That isn't true .

To save you replying giving the same examples, I will answer first :

The beheaded babies was a mistranslation from  French language report 

and the report from the firefight with the ambulance lights being on , the soldiers who stated that have been   reprimanded .

On 11/22/2025 at 9:55 PM, Somjot said:

 

How dare you?

 

It is not his mistake that you fail to understand the new moral compass:

 

If a strong person publicly beats a much weaker person into coma, he is not to blame. The only one to blame is the also weak bystander, who did not dare to help.

 

What are you demanding next?

 

That a man who saw a beautiful woman in a park and raped her is to blame for that?

 

Unbelievable.

 

Everybody knows that it is clearly her fault. She chose to walk in that park and made the poor guy rape her.

 

Have you no mercy with the real victim?

 

🤣

 

Was Saddam Hussein a war criminal? Gaddafi ? depended on who you ask ! 

 

Was Tony Blair and George W Bush war criminals? They are still alive, so are they? 

 

 

 

 

I remember the story about the family being bombed out of their apartment, walking down the street with their suitcases, telling how they lost everything.   Would imagine that being the frontline of Israeli assault.  And someone replied, that 'guy' sure wasn't missing any meals, and family was far from starving.  Have to agree and could pass for any foreigner on soi 6.

 

Last to leave so the rest should be on the far side of fighting, where Israel told them all to go.  Gaza is only ~40 kms long, and Hamas controls one half, so if anyone is starving, it's Gazans not sharing.

 

Gmap has current photos of the southern border with lots of blue  vest people walking, no fighting there or Israeli soldiers.

Just now, transam said:

 

   ^Wanted to stand trial for war crimes .

He would need to be convicted for those crimes first , before he becomes a war criminal .

   So, wanted to stand trial for war crimes , rather than a  wanted war criminal .

   There's been no conviction for war crimes , so , NOT a war criminal

10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That isn't true .

To save you replying giving the same examples, I will answer first :

The beheaded babies was a mistranslation from  French language report 

and the report from the firefight with the ambulance lights being on , the soldiers who stated that have been   reprimanded .

 

In summary: Israel has made or amplified false claims such as “beheaded babies,” fabricated paramedic involvement, exaggerated sexual violence, misattributed videos, denial of civilian deaths, and accusations of Hamas aid theft — all later debunked by independent investigations.

Sources: PBS/PolitiFact, Arab Center DCArab Center Washington DC, Wikipedia on Gaza war misinformation

22 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

So you say Israel IS holding back aid, but it's not causing starvation.  Is that your position Nick?

 

@Nick Carter icp Is this your position? you didn't answer my question.

2 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

In summary: Israel has made or amplified false claims such as “beheaded babies,” fabricated paramedic involvement, exaggerated sexual violence, misattributed videos, denial of civilian deaths, and accusations of Hamas aid theft — all later debunked by independent investigations.

Sources: PBS/PolitiFact, Arab Center DCArab Center Washington DC, Wikipedia on Gaza war misinformation

 

   I answered that already .

Israel stated that they couldn't confirm the beheaded baby claims .

Who debunked the claim that Hamas steal food ?

5 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

@Nick Carter icp Is this your position? you didn't answer my question.

 

   Israel let enough food in to feed the population of Gaza .

Israel withheld aid from the U.N/Hamas and distributed it themselves 

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I answered that already .

Israel stated that they couldn't confirm the beheaded baby claims .

Who debunked the claim that Hamas steal food ?

 

Multiple independent organizations and governments have debunked Israel’s claims that Hamas was stealing or hoarding humanitarian food aid in Gaza.

 

📌 Who debunked the claims

  • United Nations (UN)

    • UN aid agencies, including UNRWA and OCHA, repeatedly stated they found no evidence of systematic Hamas theft of food aid.

    • UN monitors on the ground confirmed that the main issue was Israeli restrictions and blockades, not diversion by Hamas.

  • United States Government

    • In 2024–2025, U.S. officials reviewed Israeli allegations and concluded there was no credible evidence that Hamas was stealing aid at scale.

    • The Biden administration publicly acknowledged that famine conditions were caused by limited access and delivery restrictions, not Hamas diversion.

  • Humanitarian NGOs

    • Groups like Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International documented starvation and aid blockages, attributing them to Israeli military policy.

    • They found no substantiated proof of Hamas systematically stealing food supplies.

  • Independent Fact‑Checkers

    • Outlets such as PolitiFact and Reuters Fact Check examined viral claims of Hamas “stealing aid trucks” and found them misleading or false.

    • Videos circulated online were often miscaptioned or taken out of context.

Just now, JBChiangRai said:

 

Multiple independent organizations and governments have debunked Israel’s claims that Hamas was stealing or hoarding humanitarian food aid in Gaza.

 

📌 Who debunked the claims

  • United Nations (UN)

    • UN aid agencies, including UNRWA and OCHA, repeatedly stated they found no evidence of systematic Hamas theft of food aid.

    • UN monitors on the ground confirmed that the main issue was Israeli restrictions and blockades, not diversion by Hamas.

  • United States Government

    • In 2024–2025, U.S. officials reviewed Israeli allegations and concluded there was no credible evidence that Hamas was stealing aid at scale.

    • The Biden administration publicly acknowledged that famine conditions were caused by limited access and delivery restrictions, not Hamas diversion.

  • Humanitarian NGOs

    • Groups like Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International documented starvation and aid blockages, attributing them to Israeli military policy.

    • They found no substantiated proof of Hamas systematically stealing food supplies.

  • Independent Fact‑Checkers

    • Outlets such as PolitiFact and Reuters Fact Check examined viral claims of Hamas “stealing aid trucks” and found them misleading or false.

    • Videos circulated online were often miscaptioned or taken out of context.

 

   The aid truck thieves  were dressed in civilian clothes , they couldn't confirm whether the thieves were Hamas or not .

   They may have been some other Gaza faction 

9 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Multiple independent organizations and governments have debunked Israel’s claims that Hamas was stealing or hoarding humanitarian food aid in Gaza.

 

📌 Who debunked the claims

  • United Nations (UN)

    • UN aid agencies, including UNRWA and OCHA, repeatedly stated they found no evidence of systematic Hamas theft of food aid.

    • UN monitors on the ground confirmed that the main issue was Israeli restrictions and blockades, not diversion by Hamas.

  • United States Government

    • In 2024–2025, U.S. officials reviewed Israeli allegations and concluded there was no credible evidence that Hamas was stealing aid at scale.

    • The Biden administration publicly acknowledged that famine conditions were caused by limited access and delivery restrictions, not Hamas diversion.

  • Humanitarian NGOs

    • Groups like Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International documented starvation and aid blockages, attributing them to Israeli military policy.

    • They found no substantiated proof of Hamas systematically stealing food supplies.

  • Independent Fact‑Checkers

    • Outlets such as PolitiFact and Reuters Fact Check examined viral claims of Hamas “stealing aid trucks” and found them misleading or false.

    • Videos circulated online were often miscaptioned or taken out of context.

Key Details from UN Data
  • High Rate of Interception: Data from the UNOPS Monitoring and Tracking Dashboard shows that between May 19 and early August 2025, a significant percentage of aid trucks did not reach their intended destinations.
  • Specific Percentages:
    • Around 85% of the total tonnage of aid was intercepted.
    • Around 88% of the total number of trucks were intercepted.
1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  I've posted actual videos of Hamas stealing the aid .

Al-Jazerra links saying they don't steal the aid doesn't over rule the actual videos 

Who said anything about Al-Jazerra?

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/usaid-analysis-found-no-evidence-massive-hamas-theft-gaza-aid-2025-07-25/

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:
Key Details from UN Data
  • High Rate of Interception: Data from the UNOPS Monitoring and Tracking Dashboard shows that between May 19 and early August 2025, a significant percentage of aid trucks did not reach their intended destinations.
  • Specific Percentages:
    • Around 85% of the total tonnage of aid was intercepted.
    • Around 88% of the total number of trucks were intercepted.

 An you point out the bit that identifies Hamas as having intercepted these aid deliveries?

12 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The aid truck thieves  were dressed in civilian clothes , they couldn't confirm whether the thieves were Hamas or not .

   They may have been some other Gaza faction 

Far more likely that they were civilians in desperate need of food.

35 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   ^Wanted to stand trial for war crimes .

He would need to be convicted for those crimes first , before he becomes a war criminal .

   So, wanted to stand trial for war crimes , rather than a  wanted war criminal .

   There's been no conviction for war crimes , so , NOT a war criminal

😂........So he never did any of the things he is wanted for....?   😂

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2 minutes ago, transam said:

😂........So he never did any of the things he is wanted for....?   😂

 

   Not the point .

you cannot label a person as being  war criminal until they have been convicted in Court of the allegations 

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Not the point .

you cannot label a person as being  war criminal until they have been convicted in Court of the allegations 

So, you are making excuses then, or do you think he never did any of the things he is wanted for.........?.............🤭

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1 minute ago, transam said:

So, you are making excuses then, or do you think he never did any of the things he is wanted for.........?.............🤭

 

Doesn't matter what I think or what you think .

He's not a war criminal until he's been convicted of those crimes 

21 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

Doesn't matter what I think or what you think .

He's not a war criminal until he's been convicted of those crimes 

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.........So Hitler wasn't a war criminal because he never got to see a court.........😂

1 minute ago, transam said:

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.........So Hitler wasn't a war criminal because he never got to see a court.........😂

 

   Well done, you got the Nazi reference in .

Every thread about Israel needs to have at lest 1   Nazi reference 

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Well done, you got the Nazi reference in .

Every thread about Israel needs to have at lest 1   Nazi reference 

I never mentioned Nazis, you have, I mentioned an obvious killer of millions......🙄

1 minute ago, transam said:

I never mentioned Nazis, you have, I mentioned an obvious killer of millions......🙄

 

   Hitler was indeed a Nazi  and it was YOU who mentioned him 

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Hitler was indeed a Nazi  and it was YOU who mentioned him 

Stop twisting, I never quoted Nazi, YOU did.............😂

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