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‘A massacre in slow motion’

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1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The aid truck thieves  were dressed in civilian clothes , they couldn't confirm whether the thieves were Hamas or not .

   They may have been some other Gaza faction 

 

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:
Key Details from UN Data
  • High Rate of Interception: Data from the UNOPS Monitoring and Tracking Dashboard shows that between May 19 and early August 2025, a significant percentage of aid trucks did not reach their intended destinations.
  • Specific Percentages:
    • Around 85% of the total tonnage of aid was intercepted.
    • Around 88% of the total number of trucks were intercepted.

 

I have seen videos of Israeli's destroying aid intended for Gaza, straight off the lorry.

 

I would put it to you that this is the interceptions you refer to.

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  • "hundreds of thousands of tons of food. "   So how can they possibly be starving ? or is that the loot Hamas stole and is openly selling on the black market for profit.    

  • Let me get this straight, you are not condemning what I posted above about Israel purposely kept Gaza on the brink of starvation for months?   To answer you attempt at deflection, yes, Saudi

  • How dare you?   It is not his mistake that you fail to understand the new moral compass:   If a strong person publicly beats a much weaker person into coma, he is not to blame. The

12 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Well done, you got the Nazi reference in .

Every thread about Israel needs to have at lest 1   Nazi reference 

 

Yeah well, wikipedia claims Isreal was formed to get away from anti-semitism following the holocaust.

So they put it in an area where they never figured all neighbors would be hostile. 

 

1 minute ago, transam said:

Stop twisting, I never quoted Nazi, YOU did.............😂

 

   You mentioned Hitler.......................who was  a Nazi .

I will rephrase my post 

 

 Well done, you got the Nazi related reference in .

Every thread about Israel needs to have at lest 1   Nazi related  reference 

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You mentioned Hitler.......................who was  a Nazi .

I will rephrase my post 

 

 Well done, you got the Nazi related reference in .

Every thread about Israel needs to have at lest 1   Nazi related  reference 

You can stand down now............😁

On 11/22/2025 at 1:42 PM, JimCM said:

Let me get this straight, you are not condemning what I posted above about Israel purposely kept Gaza on the brink of starvation for months?

 

 

No because it's totally fake news, you've never been to Israel and know nothing.

 

On 11/22/2025 at 1:42 PM, JimCM said:

Let me get this straight, you are not condemning what I posted above about Israel purposely kept Gaza on the brink of starvation for months?

 

To answer you attempt at deflection, yes, Saudi, UAE, Jordan, Egypt, and Qatar are among Arab nations who have given hundreds of thousands of tons of food. 

 

    Palestine is at war with Israel .

Palestine started a war with Israel 

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1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Palestine is at war with Israel .

Palestine started a war with Israel 

Palestine was a peaceful enough place where Muslims, Christians, and Jews lived peacefully until the Brits created the Balfour Declaration followed by the 1948 handover of "A Land Without A People To A People Without A Land."  Then The Nakba where Jewish settlers made sure that the parts of occupied Palestine which needed to be made "A Land Without A People" where made free of Palestinians as 750,000 Palestinians where removed or killed to make way for "The People Without A Land."  

You people don't study history.  The Palestinians have been an living on occupied territory in an apartheid state since 1948.  

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1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

Doesn't matter what I think or what you think .

He's not a war criminal until he's been convicted of those crimes 

He became a war criminal the moment he committed his first war crime.

 

If you wish to argue that there exists some kind of time warp in which conviction comes before the crime then please give it your best go.

 

In the meantime, the right to be considered innocent until convicted is process within the justice system, it’s not a rule or law than anyone outside of the justice system signs up to, and certainly not when expressing personal opinions on an Internet forum.

 

3 hours ago, Slowhand225 said:

 

Really ?

Pick any continent you'd like, do you care about the people dying there too ? I doubt it.

Kinda telling when you pick one group to support unequally don't ya think ?

How about you read the OP in the thread you are responding to and quit with the but but but whatabout…

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

He became a war criminal the moment he committed his first war crime.

 

 

   None of that has been proven yet .

He will plead Not guilty and its up to the Judge to decide that .

Israel has also taken steps to get the arrest warrant rescinded and to get Khan himself prosecuted .

   So, Netanhyu isn't  war criminal , just someone made allegtions 

46 minutes ago, connda said:

Palestine was a peaceful enough place where Muslims, Christians, and Jews lived peacefully until the Brits created the Balfour Declaration followed by the 1948 handover of "A Land Without A People To A People Without A Land."  Then The Nakba where Jewish settlers made sure that the parts of occupied Palestine which needed to be made "A Land Without A People" where made free of Palestinians as 750,000 Palestinians where removed or killed to make way for "The People Without A Land."  

You people don't study history.  The Palestinians have been an living on occupied territory in an apartheid state since 1948.  

 

    I wasn't talking about history .

I am talking bout the present day and the last few years .

I don't study history ?

Judea/West bank  was under Jordanian rule from 1948- 1967 

 

  The Palestinians have been an living on occupied territory in an apartheid state since 1948.     1967 

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39 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   None of that has been proven yet .

He will plead Not guilty and its up to the Judge to decide that .

Israel has also taken steps to get the arrest warrant rescinded and to get Khan himself prosecuted .

   So, Netanhyu isn't  war criminal , just someone made allegtions 

He’s welcome to trot along to The Hague and make his case.

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32 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    I wasn't talking about history .

I am talking bout the present day and the last few years .

I don't study history ?

Judea/West bank  was under Jordanian rule from 1948- 1967 

 

  The Palestinians have been a living on occupied territory in an apartheid state since 1948.     1967 

I absolutely agree you don’t study history, or at least there’s little evidence you do.

 

 However, you are not averse to bringing up misrepresentations of history, someone’s reaching back thousands of years.

 

 

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  No , Netanyahu isn't a wanted war criminal .

I do not why, but this reply was for you, but got credited to somjot for some reason.

 

Was Saddam Hussein a war criminal? Gaddafi ? depended on who you ask ! 

 

 Was Tony Blair and George W Bush war criminals? They are still alive, so are they? 

12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I absolutely agree you don’t study history, or at least there’s little evidence you do.

 However, you are not averse to bringing up misrepresentations of history, someone’s reaching back thousands of years.

 

 

   Really ?

What historical  facts have I misrepresented ?

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I absolutely agree you don’t study history, or at least there’s little evidence you do.

 

 However, you are not averse to bringing up misrepresentations of history, someone’s reaching back thousands of years.

 

 

 

    Could you state what misrepresentations of history I have written ?

Failure to name any times when I have misrepresented history will show that you just made that allegation up .

   You really should stop falsely accusing others .

I have never misrepresented history  .

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11 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

Doesn't matter what I think or what you think .

He's not a war criminal until he's been convicted of those crimes 

 

Well, he never showed up at court to prove his innocence and that of the IDF.

 

Instead he avoided flying over states which would respect the arrest warrant but visited Hungary, which betrayed the ICC ignoring that carrying out ICC decisions is obligatory.

 

And he called his buddies at AIPAC to kick some ass in the USA (united slaves of aipac) government, which immediately obeyed by smearing and sanctioning the ICC judge Karim Khan.

 

Does not sound very innocent to me.

 

You arguing, he has never been convicted does not count, as this phrase is used for people who were accused of a crime, were arrested or turned themselves in and the court later acquitted them for lack of evidence or other reasons.

 

But as a matter of fact, an arrest warrant is a clear court order to appear at court same as it is a court order to any of the 125 member states to ensure their appearance at trial or to prevent them from obstructing justice.

 

Failing to do so can be seen as a crime itself.

 

Not that he would be concerned about that.

 

 

 

 

 

He lied in the face of the US congress with such an audacity and still got more than 50 standing ovations.

 

Says a lot about them.

 

He kept that war going, kept murdering Palestinians by the Thousands and why?

 

To avoid going to court in Israel for  bribery, fraud and breach of trust.

 

Yet, most Israelis side with him. Says a lot about those too.

11 hours ago, connda said:

You people don't study history.  

 

But they do.

 

And then rewrite it.

13 hours ago, Hummin said:

 

Was Saddam Hussein a war criminal? Gaddafi ? depended on who you ask ! 

 

Was Tony Blair and George W Bush war criminals? They are still alive, so are they? 

 

 

9 hours ago, Hummin said:

I do not why, but this reply was for you, but got credited to somjot for some reason.

 

Was Saddam Hussein a war criminal? Gaddafi ? depended on who you ask ! 

 

 Was Tony Blair and George W Bush war criminals? They are still alive, so are they? 

 

1. Saddam Hussein

 

He murdered 182.000 Kurds and many others often using chemical weapons but The International Criminal Court (ICC) did not prosecute Saddam Hussein because its jurisdiction begins on July 1, 2002, and he was on trial for crimes committed before that date.

 

So yes he was a war criminal .

 

2. Gaddafi

 

Maybe not a war criminal but surely committed crimes against humanity on his own people

 

Both of them just amateurs compared to 

 

3. Blair and 4. Bush

 

who murdered Hundred Thousands in Afghanistan and Millions in Iraq.

 

 

My question to you:

 

What has this to do with the genocide in Gaza?

On 11/21/2025 at 12:09 PM, JimCM said:

Even as Israel’s bombardment has slowed during the ceasefire, its severe restrictions on humanitarian assistance means famine will keep killing Palestinians, an analyst warns.

Alex de Waal has spent more than 40 years studying famine and war crimes. He spoke to AJ+ about how Israel purposely kept Gaza on the edge of famine for months on end.

Israel’s starvation will be felt by Palestinians for generations – physically, biologically and societally, de Waal said.

 

https://aje.io/3rwmsa?update=4121931

People like you have made this claim for decades.   Yet, the population has grown.   At what point will people like you stop pushing this propaganda?  

6 minutes ago, Somjot said:

 

What has this to do with the genocide in Gaza?

What genocide? 

7 minutes ago, Somjot said:

who murdered Hundred Thousands in Afghanistan

The USSR.

xxx

12 hours ago, connda said:

Palestine was a peaceful enough place where Muslims, Christians, and Jews lived peacefully until the Brits created the Balfour Declaration followed by the 1948 handover of "A Land Without A People To A People Without A Land." 

 

It's a myth that Muslims, Jews and Christians lived "peacefully" or "harmoniously" in historical Palestine prior to the British Mandate.   Ever since the Muslim conquest in 636 CE,  jews and Christians had lived in Palestine as dhimmis, or subjugated people not given the same rights as Muslims.  Pogroms, massacres and other forms of violence or discrimination were common. Below is a list of such incidents during Ottoman and British rule, beginning in 1517:

 

▪ 1517: 1st pogrom in Safed, Ottoman Palestine

▪ 1517: 1st pogrom in Hebron, Ottoman Palestine

▪ 1660: 2 pogroms in Safed and Tiberias, Ottoman Palestine

▪ 1834: 2nd pogrom in Hebron, Ottoman Palestine

▪ 1834 : Pogrom in Safed, Ottoman Palestine 

▪ 1838: Druze attack in Safed, Ottoman Palestine

▪ 1847: ethnic cleansing of Jews in Jerusalem, Ottoman Palestine

▪ 1914: expulsion of Jews from Palestine old enough to bear arms by the Ottomans

▪ 1920: Irbid massacres: British mandate in Palestine

▪ 1920–1930: Arab riots, British Mandate Palestine

▪ 1921: 1st Jaffa riots, British Mandate Palestine

▪ 1928: Massacres of Ikhwan, in Egypt and under British mandate in Palestine.

▪ 1929: anti-Jewish riots, British mandate: in August 1929, the Jews demanded the construction of the Western Wall; pogroms in Jerusalem, Hebron, Safed. To stop the violence, the British reject this request

▪ 1929: 3rd Hebron Pogrom under British Mandate Palestine.

▪ 1929 3e pogrom in Safed, British Mandate Palestine.

▪ 1933: 2nd Jaffa riots, British mandate in Palestine.

▪ 1936: 3rd Jaffa riots, British Mandate Palestine

▪ 1938–1945: Arab collaboration with the Nazis

▪ 1942: collaboration with the Nazis by Palestine's top leader, the Grand Mufti.

▪ 1947: Arab attacks on Jews following announcement of UN partition plan

 

The list of crimes committed by Muslims against Jews since the 7th century

https://medium.com/@sigmaxavi/the-list-of-crimes-committed-by-muslims-against-jews-since-the-7th-century-0ff1a8eb0ad0

 

Arab citizens of Israel have lived far more peacefully and prosperously in Israel since 1948 than Jews ever lived in Palestine under Muslim rulers.

 

12 hours ago, connda said:

You people don't study history.  The Palestinians have been an living on occupied territory in an apartheid state since 1948.  

 

It's your study of history that's lacking.  Inhabitants of Palestine had been living on foreign-controlled territory since Biblical times.   No independent state, kingdom or nation called Palestine existed to occupy before the PLO declared the creation of the State of Palestine in Nov. 15, 1988.  Nor was there a group of Arabs that identified as "Palestinian" before the British mandatory period began in 1920.

 

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11 hours ago, connda said:

Palestine was a peaceful enough place where Muslims, Christians, and Jews lived peacefully until the Brits created the Balfour Declaration followed by the 1948 handover of "A Land Without A People To A People Without A Land."  Then The Nakba where Jewish settlers made sure that the parts of occupied Palestine which needed to be made "A Land Without A People" where made free of Palestinians as 750,000 Palestinians where removed or killed to make way for "The People Without A Land."  

You people don't study history.  The Palestinians have been an living on occupied territory in an apartheid state since 1948.  

 

 

How is that proving him wrong?

 

13 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

▪ 1517: 1st pogrom in Safed, Ottoman Palestine

▪ 1517: 1st pogrom in Hebron, Ottoman Palestine

 

143 years later

 

13 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

▪ 1660: 2 pogroms in Safed and Tiberias, Ottoman Palestine

 

174 years later

 

13 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

▪ 1834: 2nd pogrom in Hebron, Ottoman Palestine

▪ 1834 : Pogrom in Safed, Ottoman Palestine 

▪ 1838: Druze attack in Safed, Ottoman Palestine

▪ 1847: ethnic cleansing of Jews in Jerusalem, Ottoman Palestine

 

1897 First Zionist Congress and the Zionist Organization founded.

 

More and more Jews migrate to Palestine and start to drive the Palestinians out.

 

Reaction:

 

13 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

▪ 1914: expulsion of Jews from Palestine old enough to bear arms by the Ottomans

 

1917 Balfour declaration.

 

<deleted> starts hitting the fan.

 

13 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

▪ 1920: Irbid massacres: British mandate in Palestine

▪ 1920–1930: Arab riots, British Mandate Palestine

▪ 1921: 1st Jaffa riots, British Mandate Palestine

▪ 1928: Massacres of Ikhwan, in Egypt and under British mandate in Palestine.

▪ 1929: anti-Jewish riots, British mandate: in August 1929, the Jews demanded the construction of the Western Wall; pogroms in Jerusalem, Hebron, Safed. To stop the violence, the British reject this request

▪ 1929: 3rd Hebron Pogrom under British Mandate Palestine.

▪ 1929 3e pogrom in Safed, British Mandate Palestine.

▪ 1933: 2nd Jaffa riots, British mandate in Palestine.

▪ 1936: 3rd Jaffa riots, British Mandate Palestine

▪ 1938–1945: Arab collaboration with the Nazis

▪ 1942: collaboration with the Nazis by Palestine's top leader, the Grand Mufti.

▪ 1947: Arab attacks on Jews following announcement of UN partition plan

 

Only in the last 11 years before the declaration of Israel, Jewish gangs (such as Etzel, Lehi, Haganah, the Palmach Brigade, and Stern Gang) committed more than 57 massacres, resulting in the deaths of over 5,000 Palestinians and thousands of injuries.

 

To name a few:

 

Pre-1948 (Zionist militias, British Mandate period):

Haifa Massacres (1937, 1939, 1947, 1948)

Jerusalem Massacres (1937, 1947, 1948)

Balad al-Sheikh (1939)

Al-Khisas (1947)

Bab al-Amud (1947)

Abbasiya,

Sheikh Burek,

Al-Sheik Break,

Jaffa,

Al-Saraya,

Semiramis,

Ramla,

Yazur,

Tabra

Tulkarem,

Abu Shusha,

Tantura,

Lydda,

Saliha,

Al-Dawayima,

Al-Husayniyya,

Abu Kabir,

Cairo-Haifa Train,

Qalunya,

Nasir al-Din,

Tiberias,

Ayn al-Zaytoun,

Safed,

Beit Daras (1947–1948)

 

Post-1948 (Israeli state and IDF):

ost-1948 (Israeli state and IDF):

Qibya Massacre (1953) – IDF blew up homes, 69 civilians killed Source: B’Tselem

Khan Yunis Massacre (1956) – IDF killed ~275 civilians Source: UN Reports

Sabra & Shatila (1982) – Lebanese militias massacred ~2,000 civilians with IDF support [Source: Amnesty International]

Al-Aqsa Mosque Massacre (1990) – IDF opened fire, 20+ killed Source: Human Rights Watch

Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre (1994) – Settler massacre, IDF killed protesters afterward Source: BBC

Jenin Refugee Camp Assaults (2002, 2023) – Large-scale military operations [Source: UN]

Operation Cast Lead (2008–09) – 1,400+ Palestinians killed, mostly civilians Source: UN Fact-Finding Mission

Operation Pillar of Defense (2012) – ~160 killed [Source: Human Rights Watch]

Operation Protective Edge (2014) – Over 2,200 killed, including 500+ children [Source: UNICEF]

Great March of Return protests (2018–2019) – IDF snipers killed 200+ unarmed protesters [Source: Amnesty International]

May Gaza Conflict (2021) – Israeli airstrikes killed 250+ [Source: UN OCHA]

2022 raids and strikes – Hundreds killed [Source: Various UN reports]

Gaza War 2023–2024 (ongoing) – Official counts say ~55,000 Palestinians killed so far, but reporters and humanitarian groups on the ground estimate between 150,000 and 300,000 civilians killed. The counting system is outdated, missing those buried without documentation and thousands still trapped under rubble. Entire neighborhoods erased. The IDF is responsible for airstrikes on hospitals, schools, bakeries, mosques, and refugee camps. Over 70% of casualties are civilians. [Sources: Al Jazeera, Human Rights Watch)]

 

 

13 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

The list of crimes committed by Muslims against Jews since the 7th century

https://medium.com/@sigmaxavi/the-list-of-crimes-committed-by-muslims-against-jews-since-the-7th-century-0ff1a8eb0ad0

 

Arab citizens of Israel have lived far more peacefully and prosperously in Israel since 1948 than Jews ever lived in Palestine under Muslim rulers.

 

 

It's your study of history that's lacking.  Inhabitants of Palestine had been living on foreign-controlled territory since Biblical times.   No independent state, kingdom or nation called Palestine existed to occupy before the PLO declared the creation of the State of Palestine in Nov. 15, 1988.  Nor was there a group of Arabs that identified as "Palestinian" before the British mandatory period began in 1920.

 

But there were almost only ARABS for Hundreds of years, while just a few Jews remained there (about 3%).

 

Your argument is lacking that the problems started when Jews moved in in masses since the Balfour declaration.

 

The existence of a Jewish state 3000 years ago for about 300 years and then another 60 years around 2000 years ago does not justify ... a JEWISH ETHNO STATE built on land where Arabs/Muslims (call them whatever your mind gymnastics tell you) were living for Milenia side by side with those few Jews.

 

Look at the peaceful times between those conflicts in your list.

 

And realize how these peaceful intersections shortened dramatically when Jews moved in in huge numbers and created their "Jewish state", where the 2018 created basic law clearly discriminates Non-Jews inside Israel and gives them a "free to kill" status outside Israel by supporting settlements.

52 minutes ago, Fact said:

The USSR.

 

Yup!

 

Until Rambo became the Taliban`s best friend and kicked their asses.

 

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1 hour ago, Fact said:

People like you have made this claim for decades.   Yet, the population has grown.   At what point will people like you stop pushing this propaganda?  

Did you even open the link I posted? The guy's an expert.

Here's another expert, and he's also a Jew.

 

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31 minutes ago, Somjot said:

2022 raids and strikes – Hundreds killed [Source: Various UN reports]

Gaza War 2023–2024 (ongoing) – Official counts say ~55,000 Palestinians killed so far,

You missed out many others like Operation Shield and Arrow in May 2023.

It's over 69,000 dead now with 10s of thousands missing under rubble 

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1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

Ever since the Muslim conquest in 636 CE,  jews and Christians had lived in Palestine as dhimmis

I thought you said Palestine never existed. Make your mind up.

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1 hour ago, Fact said:

What genocide? 

Educate yourself 

 

8 hours ago, Somjot said:

 

 

1. Saddam Hussein

 

He murdered 182.000 Kurds and many others often using chemical weapons but The International Criminal Court (ICC) did not prosecute Saddam Hussein because its jurisdiction begins on July 1, 2002, and he was on trial for crimes committed before that date.

 

So yes he was a war criminal .

 

2. Gaddafi

 

Maybe not a war criminal but surely committed crimes against humanity on his own people

 

Both of them just amateurs compared to 

 

3. Blair and 4. Bush

 

who murdered Hundred Thousands in Afghanistan and Millions in Iraq.

 

 

My question to you:

 

What has this to do with the genocide in Gaza?

 

It have everything about double morality to do! 

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