1 hour ago, impulse said:

  

The part that didn't convince me was where they estimated the frequency of the damage (specific to the article I linked).  They seemed to pull those numbers out of the blue with their selection methods.  I suspect that most of the affected patients don't even realize their hearts are damaged, and won't until much later if and when they go in for a coronary CT scan.

 

These ultra-bias articles that pretend to "be the truth"  appear ad nauseum by the pro-vax stalwarts .

from the Stanford article ..... two typical propaganda assertions (the real MAIN thrust of the article ) 

1.

The mRNA vaccines for COVID-19, which have now been administered several billion times, have been heavily scrutinized for safety and have been shown to be extremely safe, said Joseph Wu, MD, PhD, the director of the Stanford Cardiovascular Institute.

 

2.“The mRNA vaccines have done a tremendous job mitigating the COVID pandemic,” said Wu, the Simon H. Stertzer, MD, Professor and a professor of medicine and of radiology. “Without these vaccines, more people would have gotten sick, more people would have had severe effects and more people would have died.”

 

anyway..... you see how they pooh poohed the original clickbait headline .   That's what the real goal was .   tricks, tricks , and lies .    

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

No, no, no,

Now you're trying to act like you're the expert who knows more than everyone else.

Flu is mainly caused by lack of sunlight exposure, which is why it's mostly prevalent in winter months. 

 

Good you have returned Frogs Sir.

 

The reasons for flu are complex. They are different for most of us. A good deal of this goes back to nutrition. The right diet is not always enough. The ingredients in the food are very important. There are some 60 minerals. They perform functions, at molecular level, and allow the body to tick over smoothly. When they are present the toxins, that we all take in at various times, are more easily dealt with in real time. If they are not available then the toxins are stored away. Then they are expelled during detoxification periods.

 

But, the flu itself, usually centres, or at least starts, around the respiratory system. Over the course of a year or two, we breathe in stuff we definitely don't want or need. As has been said, the body will capture these entities and store them. The lungs themselves are about the size of a football penalty area. They use up some of this area, maybe as much as a goal area, protecting us by coating the toxic entities. This obviously makes the lungs less efficient. Although in a generally healthy body, this might hardly be noticeable.

 

When the body says 'it's time' or There is 'enough' stored junk, the detox starts. And we have the flu!

 

Once started, the body has to do two major things. First is to rid itself of the stored entities, and secondly to repair those areas of the lung (respiratory) that were damaged by the whole process. The mucus membranes are brought into use big time. Allowing the toxic entities to be coated so they can be more easily removed. This is where the earlier diet comes into play. If the body has enough minerals and nutrients, it will not be under as much stress to perform its detox and normalising functions.

 

Why does the detox, the flu, happen when it usually does? The body does not want itself to be running at (say) 70%, or less, efficiency during the cold months. When is the trigger for detoxification? I'm not sure whether it a drop in temperature or a change in humidity; triggering a PH change in the lungs.

 

Sunlight! Or rather lack of it. Of course important. But not, IMO, the reason for getting the flu.

 

Personally, I take in at least a couple of hours every day. That being walking around the farm, reading in my favorite chair, in bright sun, or playing open-air darts.

 

I also walk bare-footed as much as possible. Because I'm the link between the sun and earth when I do.

 

If it rains during the day, I will go out fora walk wearing only shorts. Trying to get as close to nature as I can.

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

No, no, no,

Now you're trying to act like you're the expert who knows more than everyone else.

Flu is mainly caused by lack of sunlight exposure, which is why it's mostly prevalent in winter months. 

 

Good you have returned Frogs Sir.

 

The flu is complex. It's different for most of us. A lot of this goes back to nutrition. The right diet is not always enough. The ingredients in the food are very important. There are some 60 minerals. They perform functions, at molecular level, and allow the body to tick over smoothly. When they are present the toxins, that we all take in at various times, are more easily dealt with in real time. If they are not available then the toxins are stored away. Then they are expelled during detoxification periods.

 

But, the flu itself, usually centres, or at least starts, around the respiratory system. Over the course of a year or two, we breathe in stuff we definitely don't want or need. As has been said, the body will capture these entities and store them. The lungs themselves are about the size of a football penalty area. They use up some of this area, maybe as much as a goal area, protecting us by coating the toxic entities. This obviously makes the lungs less efficient. Although in a generally healthy body, this might hardly be noticeable.

 

When the body says 'it's time' or There is 'enough' stored junk, the detox starts. And we have the flu!

 

Once started, the body has to do two major things. First is to rid itself of the stored entities, and secondly to repair those areas of the lung (respiratory) that were damaged by the whole process. The mucus membranes are brought into use big time. Allowing the toxic entities to be coated so they can be more easily removed. This is where the earlier diet comes into play. If the body has enough minerals and nutrients, it will not be under as much stress to perform its detox and normalising functions.

 

Why does the detox, the flu, happen when it usually does? The body does not want itself to be running at (say) 70%, or less, efficiency during the cold months. When is the trigger for detoxification? I'm not sure whether it a drop in temperature or a change in humidity; triggering a PH change in the lungs.

 

Sunlight! Or rather lack of it. Of course important. But not, IMO, the reason for getting the flu.

 

Personally, I take in at least a couple of hours every day. That being walking around the farm, reading in my favorite chair, in bright sun, or playing open-air darts.

 

I also walk bare-footed as much as possible. Because I'm the link between the sun and earth when I do.

 

If it rains during the day, I will go out for a walk wearing only shorts. Trying to get as close to nature as I can.

2 hours ago, transam said:

Dr. Mump, who wants you all to die, to refuse help, because it's nature....................................

Not at all Trans Sir.

 

I don't want everyone to die. But those latchikoes that pump toxic filth into babes, toddlers and kids would need to watch out.

 

In my world, any would be doctors would spend their first year studying nature.

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

In my world, any would be doctors would spend their first year studying nature.

 

A lot of doctors understand now that the system is rigged to sell pills.

 

And they have educated themselves in their free time and they are educating people online. 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Not at all Trans Sir.

 

I don't want everyone to die. But those latchikoes that pump toxic filth into babes, toddlers and kids would need to watch out.

 

In my world, any would be doctors would spend their first year studying nature.

But you got thrown out of the medical stuff you were being taught, you told us so, and I would have thought that hard to happen................😬

13 minutes ago, transam said:

But you got thrown out of the medical stuff you were being taught, you told us so, and I would have thought that hard to happen................😬

True enough Trans.

 

Even back then - some 40 years ago - it wasn't the done thing to ask questions. Or, even worse, questioning a teacher; in my case it was a know-nothing white coat professor. But I did, and that was the end of my exchange saga.

 

But, as my personal tutor, later said to me. "Doctors never ask questions. Physiologists always do."

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

True enough Trans.

 

Even back then - some 40 years ago - it wasn't the done thing to ask questions. Or, even worse, questioning a teacher; in my case it was a know-nothing white coat professor. but I did and that was the end of my exchange saga.

 

But, as my personal tutor, later said to me. "Doctors never ask questions. Physiologists always do."

Hmmmmm, weeeell, every doctor I have ever seen has asked me questions, probably to find out what is wrong with me and try and fix the problem, so.............😒

 

How did your know-nothing professor get to become a professor, and you haven't..........

2 hours ago, transam said:

Hmmmmm, weeeell, every doctor I have ever seen has asked me questions, probably to find out what is wrong with me and try and fix the problem, so.............😒

 

How did your know-nothing professor get to become a professor, and you haven't..........

Did the doctors you saw get to the root causes of your problems Trans buddy?

11 hours ago, Airalee said:

From what I have read online, there have never been any successful tests of mRNA technology in all those years and supposedly, all the test subjects (animals) died.

 

I heard that the Covid muck was tested on all of 8 mice (rats?).   
 

Impressive, no? 🫤

 

It's Safe & Effective™ and anyone asking questions is mentally ill. Simple.

5 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Did the doctors you saw get to the root causes of your problems Trans buddy?

Yes indeed, and am very thankful, my chum is/was a professor at Kings College Hospital, in London, my sight was saved by the quick action of a local hospital doctor, arranged a same day operation at St.Thomas's Hospital, London, opposite the Houses of Parliament.

 

Think I have had about 4 MRI scans during my life too, all resorting to a fix.

 

Thankfully, at my old age I am no longer taking medication for anything, those doctors did their job, admirably.....

4 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Personally, I take in at least a couple of hours every day. That being walking around the farm, reading in my favorite chair, in bright sun, or playing open-air darts.

 

But you're always referring back to yourself.

 

Not everyone lives in a warm country with 300 days of sunlight every year. 

 

Go live in Russia and let us know if you get the flu. 

Why do you think they all flock to Phuket? 

 

 

11 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

It's Safe & Effective™ and anyone asking questions is mentally ill. Simple.

Indeed!

 

'Safe & Effective' is now a joke phrase. And quite right too.

 

But just to dig a little deeper. Effective against what? And safe? In what way was it safe. Safe that you could take it with confidence that is will not actually harm you?

 

My take: The whole thing had little to do with health. Although that was the focus 100%. It was all run by the deep states in western countries. With the US clearly leading the charge. Although not the US people or the POTUS. In fact I don't think Fauci had too much say in it all.

 

Israel let the cat out the bag by reporting, to the world, on the coming pandemic 3 months before it emerged. And, in it not being a health event, goes to explain the UK abrupt about turn in March 2020. Also explains the world lockstep aspects. The health authorities, in the UK, thought they were in charge, But were overruled. By who? I say it was MI6 and any the other secret organisations that run the whole show.

 

The medical suppliers were hitched onto the covid wagon after Dr Mullis died and Event 201.

 

28 minutes ago, transam said:

Yes indeed, and am very thankful, my chum is/was a professor at Kings College Hospital, in London, my sight was saved by the quick action of a local hospital doctor, arranged a same day operation at St.Thomas's Hospital, London, opposite the Houses of Parliament.

 

Think I have had about 4 MRI scans during my life too, all resorting to a fix.

 

Thankfully, at my old age I am no longer taking medication for anything, those doctors did their job, admirably.....

Good for you Trans buddy.

 

But why did you get the eye problems? Root causes.

51 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

It's Safe & Effective™ and anyone asking questions is mentally ill. Simple.

 

People die in car accidents all the time. it's the best system we've got for now. What do you recommend? Taking all cars off the roads? 

 

They admit that there is some risk to the vaccines and cases of myocarditis have been reported.

But not the exaggerated numbers you guys are claiming.

And if they are testing a future technology, there's no way around it. It's sad, but nothing is perfect and without some risk.

 

 

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Safe & Effective' is now a joke phrase. And quite right too

It would be appropriate for an anti perspirant….if they could even make a safe one of those.

 

To those who were observant, it almost appeared as if they were mocking us.

 

Good boy!  Here’s a donut!

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

 

People die in car accidents all the time. it's the best system we've got for now. What do you recommend? Taking all cars off the roads? 

 

They admit that there is some risk to the vaccines and cases of myocarditis have been reported.

But not the exaggerated numbers you guys are claiming.

And if they are testing a future technology, there's no way around it. It's sad, but nothing is perfect and without some risk.

 

 

 

 

 

You want it?  Up to you.

 

Don’t try to force your muck on me.

21 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

But you're always referring back to yourself.

 

Not everyone lives in a warm country with 300 days of sunlight every year. 

 

Go live in Russia and let us know if you get the flu. 

Why do you think they all flock to Phuket? 

Sunlight is important for sure. However, it's just one of the variables. Diet, exercise, lack of medications, local environment, exposure to toxicity, exposure to EMFs, state of mind; etc. All in the mix.

 

I like living in Isaan. I do miss watching bottles bobbing The River Thames behind Barking power Station. And the best place in England; Hainault Country Park.

4 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Sunlight is important for sure. However, it's just one of the variables. Diet, exercise, lack of medications, local environment, exposure to toxicity, exposure to EMFs, state of mind; etc. All in the mix.

 

I like living in Isaan. I do miss watching bottles bobbing The River Thames behind Barking power Station. And the best place in England; Hainault Country Park.

"Lack of medications".......🤣

You just wait till you go down with something, plus, there's nothing you can do about your Herpes Simplex, except use medication to send it back where it lives inside YOU...............😱..........😂

What substance contained in the injections would cause these horrific maladies?  Assuming the injections are to blame.

 

The first injection resulted in low platelets in the blood which almost killed him.

 

Then the 2nd injection resulted in a baseball size cancerous stomach tumour requiring 6 months of chemotherapy.

 

Then he had open heart surgery and passed away 2 months later. 

 

Rip.

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Good for you Trans buddy.

But why did you get the eye problems? Root causes.

From a spiritual point of view, it's glaringly obvious when reading his posts why Trans got eye problems. 

3 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

From a spiritual point of view, it's glaringly obvious when reading his posts why Trans got eye problems. 

What I was getting at Red, was that eye problems don't just happen. Could be an injury. Could be something not quite right at birth. Could be medication or vaccines.

 

The body is wonderful at self-healing. In Trans case he couldn't heal. I'm always looking for root causes. Unlike many modern doctors who seem to be particularly good at giving out medication and little else.

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

The body is wonderful at self-healing.

 

The body is also wonderful at falling apart and failing due to old age. 

 

You're delusional if you think there's a magical way to self-heal 100% of the time. 

 

12 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

The body is also wonderful at falling apart and failing due to old age. 

 

You're delusional if you think there's a magical way to self-heal 100% of the time. 

 

The body will self-heal if given the tools; as I have often said. And much of the time it is doing so without us even noticing.

 

Shouldn't make statements like '100% of the time'. A hot vaccine given to the wrong person - that is one whose defences are less than good - could easily lead to death.

 

Have to face facts of life, We will all go at one time or t'other. Best to give yerself a quality end period. Stay away from vaccines and unnecessary medications. Eat nutritious food, some walking in the rain, some sunshine; you get to know what yer body is asking for. Could be a meal of protein, or a huge intake of Vit C.

 

Nature isus. We are nature. 

8 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

But just to dig a little deeper. Effective against what? And safe? In what way was it safe. Safe that you could take it with confidence that is will not actually harm you?

 

It's safe to say it effectively culled a substantial part of the population, and still is.

7 hours ago, save the frogs said:

People die in car accidents all the time. it's the best system we've got for now. What do you recommend? Taking all cars off the roads? 

 

Nobody was ever treated like a second class citizen for refusing to drive a car. Nobody injured in a car accident was ever told that the car had nothing to do with it.

7 hours ago, Airalee said:

It would be appropriate for an anti perspirant….if they could even make a safe one of those.

 

To those who were observant, it almost appeared as if they were mocking us.

 

Good boy!  Here’s a donut!

 

Most people don't realise the contempt these people have for us.

 

 

7 hours ago, Mark Nothing said:

What substance contained in the injections would cause these horrific maladies?  Assuming the injections are to blame.

 

Spike protein.

4 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Spike protein.

Thank you.  Could you recommend a source so I could learn about what a spike protein is and how it is created?

1 hour ago, Mark Nothing said:

Thank you.  Could you recommend a source so I could learn about what a spike protein is and how it is created?

 

Certainly, Mark. I'm sure the other 'conspiracy theorists' of the forum, who are very knowledgeable, could give you good sources, but I would recommend starting with this interview of Tina Peters. It is 17 minutes long, but she sums it up well in the first five minutes:

 

https://zerospike.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/My-Movie-45.m4v