Trump can't stop winning! 

 

"Unemployment rose to a four-year high of 4.6% in November, and the economy added 64,000 jobs last month, new data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed Tuesday."

https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/16/economy/us-jobs-report-final-november-october?cid=android_app

 

NB The big decrease in October is due to DOGE cuts early this year.

 

It's Biden's fault.

And Trump is still bringing in 'trillions and trillions' of dollars. Also on the verge of starting a war in Venezueala which will bring more prosperity and closer to MAGA.

12 minutes ago, candide said:

Trump can't stop winning! 

 

"Unemployment rose to a four-year high of 4.6% in November, and the economy added 64,000 jobs last month, new data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed Tuesday."

https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/16/economy/us-jobs-report-final-november-october?cid=android_app

 

NB The big decrease in October is due to DOGE cuts early this year.

 

Shame you are unemployed

Bls report here

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

 

The average annual unemployment rate during Barack Obama's presidency was 7.4%, which is relatively high compared to other post-World War II presidents.

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

 

The average annual unemployment rate during Barack Obama's presidency was 7.4%, which is relatively high compared to other post-World War II presidents.

How's your average deflection rate doing? 

St Louis Fed numbers.

 

Native born jobs are 2.5 million higher than January. 

 

If the unemployment rate is higher, it's because they started counting the unemployed "newcomers" as part of the workforce.  Biden's economists excluded them to make his unemployment numbers look better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, candide said:

How's your average deflection rate doing? 

Facts hurt 

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

St Louis Fed numbers.

 

Native born jobs are 2.5 million higher than January. 

 

If the unemployment rate is higher, it's because they started counting the unemployed "newcomers" as part of the workforce.  Biden's economists excluded them to make his unemployment numbers look better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Biden fudging figures

7 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

The average annual unemployment rate during Barack Obama's presidency was 7.4%,

 

Which he inherited from a conservative president. Yeah facts hurt Susan

 

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2017/01/this-is-how-obamas-performance-on-jobs-compares-to-his-predecessors/

 

In fact, Obama ends his administration with the second-largest drop in the unemployment rate during a presidency since the New Deal helped pull the nation out of the Great Depression. The rate under Obama is bested only by the one under Bill Clinton, which fell from 7.3 percent in January 1993 to 3.9 percent in December 2000.

As Obama took office amid the depths of the recession, the unemployment rate was 7.8 percent. Last month, it was 4.7 percent.

Just now, CallumWK said:

 

Which he inherited from a conservative president. Yeah facts hurt Susan

 

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2017/01/this-is-how-obamas-performance-on-jobs-compares-to-his-predecessors/

 

In fact, Obama ends his administration with the second-largest drop in the unemployment rate during a presidency since the New Deal helped pull the nation out of the Great Depression. The rate under Obama is bested only by the one under Bill Clinton, which fell from 7.3 percent in January 1993 to 3.9 percent in December 2000.

As Obama took office amid the depths of the recession, the unemployment rate was 7.8 percent. Last month, it was 4.7 percent.

So in 8 years he failed to get it below 4.5 

 

Obama was hopeless

8 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

 

The average annual unemployment rate during Barack Obama's presidency was 7.4%, which is relatively high compared to other post-World War II presidents.

What makes it worse is that he received from the Bush Administration the greatest financial crisis the world faced since the Great Depression.  Obama should have refused to accept delivery? 

3 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Which he inherited from a conservative president. Yeah facts hurt Susan

 

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2017/01/this-is-how-obamas-performance-on-jobs-compares-to-his-predecessors/

 

In fact, Obama ends his administration with the second-largest drop in the unemployment rate during a presidency since the New Deal helped pull the nation out of the Great Depression. The rate under Obama is bested only by the one under Bill Clinton, which fell from 7.3 percent in January 1993 to 3.9 percent in December 2000.

As Obama took office amid the depths of the recession, the unemployment rate was 7.8 percent. Last month, it was 4.7 percent.

The average annual unemployment rate under President George W. Bush was 5.31%. 

Just now, Alan Zweibel said:

What makes it worse is that he received from the Bush Administration the greatest financial crisis the world faced since the Great Depression.  Obama should have refused to accept delivery? 

GFC was caused by Clinton policies 

10 minutes ago, impulse said:

St Louis Fed numbers.

 

Native born jobs are 2.5 million higher than January. 

 

If the unemployment rate is higher, it's because they started counting the unemployed "newcomers" as part of the workforce.  Biden's economists excluded them to make his unemployment numbers look better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

BS. The U.S. unemployment rate is calculated using consistent methods by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), and there is no evidence that “newcomers” were excluded under President Biden or suddenly added in 2025. The methodology has remained stable for decades.  
 

And the destruction is just starting, the damage that Trump has done to the US economy will not be seen for a while, but the results will be horrendous unless he rolls back most of his ridiculous tariffs.

 

Just now, Harrisfan said:

GFC was caused by Clinton policies 

Sure. Clinton's policies magically survived 8 years of the Bush Administration to unleash the Great Recession on the world.

6 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Which he inherited from a conservative president. Yeah facts hurt Susan

 

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2017/01/this-is-how-obamas-performance-on-jobs-compares-to-his-predecessors/

 

In fact, Obama ends his administration with the second-largest drop in the unemployment rate during a presidency since the New Deal helped pull the nation out of the Great Depression. The rate under Obama is bested only by the one under Bill Clinton, which fell from 7.3 percent in January 1993 to 3.9 percent in December 2000.

As Obama took office amid the depths of the recession, the unemployment rate was 7.8 percent. Last month, it was 4.7 percent.

Anybody can look up the facts if they care to know the facts, but in the last 50 years every Republican administration has had higher inflation and higher unemployment then their Democratic counterparts.

 

I dare you to look it up, guys. 

1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Sure. Clinton's policies magically survived 8 years of the Bush Administration to unleash the Great Recession on the world.

Clinton policies. Bush was busy invading Iraq.

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

Anybody can look up the facts if they care to know the facts, but in the last 50 years every Republican administration has had higher inflation and higher unemployment then their Democratic counterparts.

 

I dare you to look it up, guys. 

False claim. Biden inflation worst in 40 years 

 

Obama unemployment one of the worst ever 

3 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

False claim. Biden inflation worst in 40 years 

 

Obama unemployment one of the worst ever 

 

False claim, Biden suffered from the biggest pandemic in 40 years. A pandemic started, and ignored, during Trump's term

 

Obama inherited the biggest unemployment from a republican president.

 

Facts matter Susan

18 minutes ago, impulse said:

St Louis Fed numbers.

 

Native born jobs are 2.5 million higher than January. 

 

If the unemployment rate is higher, it's because they started counting the unemployed "newcomers" as part of the workforce.  Biden's economists excluded them to make his unemployment numbers look better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

On the apparently large increase of native born emplloyment: 

 

Every January, the BLS updates its survey weights to reflect new Census Bureau estimates of the U.S. population. In 2025, this adjustment significantly increased the count of native-born workers, making the employment level appear to jump.

 

Details here:

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2025/09/01/native-born-employment-has-not-soared/

 

33 minutes ago, impulse said:

St Louis Fed numbers.

 

Native born jobs are 2.5 million higher than January. 

 

If the unemployment rate is higher, it's because they started counting the unemployed "newcomers" as part of the workforce.  Biden's economists excluded them to make his unemployment numbers look better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

11 minutes ago, candide said:

On the apparently large increase of native born emplloyment: 

 

Every January, the BLS updates its survey weights to reflect new Census Bureau estimates of the U.S. population. In 2025, this adjustment significantly increased the count of native-born workers, making the employment level appear to jump.

 

Details here:

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2025/09/01/native-born-employment-has-not-soared/

 

Confirmed by the native born unemployment rate! 

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU04073413

58 minutes ago, saakura said:

and closer to MAGA.

 

Did you mean closure to MAGA?

 

Multiple off topic posts removed

 

@Harrisfan discuss the topic and not go off topic just to troll yet again 

Just now, candide said:

 

Confirmed by the native born unemployment rate! 

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU04073413

That shows a recent fall

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/07/bessent-gdp-growth.html

 

Good times

 

Thanks Don

26 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Clinton policies. Bush was busy invading Iraq.

Bush may not have been the brightest bulb but he was capable of paying attention to more than one thing over the space of 8 years. Moreover, the first of his tax cuts and deregulation took place before the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. 

Basically, your comment is ridiculous. But, at least you're consistent.

5 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Bush may not have been the brightest bulb but he was capable of paying attention to more than one thing over the space of 8 years. Moreover, the first of his tax cuts and deregulation took place before the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. 

Basically, your comment is ridiculous. But, at least you're consistent.

So you blame Clinton and Bush for the GFC. Fair enough. Both morons.