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Now in desperate need of X870E-Creator board from ASUS at good p

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Now in desperate need of X870E-Creator board from ASUS at good price.

 

Why do I need this board?

Because, I hate discrete graphics.

Also, I can save mucho dollars by not using one of those overpriced NVIDA graphics cards.

And, since NVIDIA GPUs will be coming with less RAM then they should have, since NVIDIA is cutting corners on RAM, or will.

 

So, AMD integrated graphics solution is the way to go, because I hate Computer Games.

 

The problem is price, and price alone.

I like this board, and it is the only one from ASUS with native-3-monitor connections from the back panel...besides the X670E-Creator...which..is now being palmed off at an inflated price, maybe due to legacy issues, but who knows.

 

I have only one board that makes sense to me.

Should I do one of those GO FUND ME campaigns?  (Don't be ridiculous!)

If the X870E-Creator board is new, new box, with 3-year warranty, and sold by some reliable source, then...

I am thinking I might consider buying for about Bt.10,000, and I need ONLY one board, after all.

 

This board has TWO Ethernet ports, which I like.

Also, this board has many other important features....such as TWO USB4 ports for two monitors, plus one HDMI port.

Yes, for my special uses, I cannot go wrong with this board.

 

There MUST be a way for me to find this board for about Bt.10,000, one might imagine.

 

What about after-Christmas specials?

In Thailand, do we have Christmas sales promotions or anything?

 

I know that if I can buy this board, most of my troubles will be behind me.

 

The 3-Year warranty will offer me the protection I need...unless for example...

I brick the thing updating the BIOS with the unstable power supply around my house.

 

I really cannot figure why ASUS is charging so much for this board.

One would think that it is not in popular demand, simply because this is NOT a gaming board.

No flashing lights that distract old people, either.

 

I don't know anyone at ASUS.

But, in the past, I did know someone at ASUS headquarters.

Now though, I bet he is long gone.

 

Bt.10,000 seems a reasonable price, to me.

 

I must have this board.

The only question is...HOW....

 

Thank you and regards,

Gamma

 

Note:  Nobody can say that this board is not a complete BEAUTY....

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just by a new Mac m4 mini.... it trounces Intel/AMD in cost vs performance.  Apple software puts M$oft to shame in terms of breadth and ease of us.  Analysts predict that Apple will support them with free software updates for 7-8 years.   Don't give Apple $$ for their overpriced RAM and disk storage upgrades.

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1 hour ago, gamb00ler said:

just by a new Mac m4 mini.... it trounces Intel/AMD in cost vs performance.  Apple software puts M$oft to shame in terms of breadth and ease of us.  Analysts predict that Apple will support them with free software updates for 7-8 years.   Don't give Apple $$ for their overpriced RAM and disk storage upgrades.

 

Well, although I know very little about desktop computers, my first inclination and preference is the following:

 

I will pair the following:

 

a. ASUS ProArt X870E-Creator motherboard

b. AMD Ryzen 7 9700X CPU  (runs at only 65 watts)

 

I have no idea what kind of Apple Machine might be equivalent to this.

Do you know?

 

It might be the:

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The price for the config of Apple Mac Studio might be around Bt.105,000.00

I cannot afford such a total waste of money...

For several reasons, but here is just one of many good reasons:

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I never liked JOBS, anyway.

He is fruit happy, and that is what killed him, in the end.

I went OPENSOURCE, long ago, back in the year 2000.

 

So, my MUST HAVE now is this ASUS ProArt X870E-Creator motherboard,...

As I keep telling you.

 

Also, I must do everything on the cheap.

Not so easy, but possible...maybe...

 

 

 

15 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Well, although I know very little about desktop computers, my first inclination and preference is the following:

 

I will pair the following:

 

a. ASUS ProArt X870E-Creator motherboard

b. AMD Ryzen 7 9700X CPU  (runs at only 65 watts)

 

I have no idea what kind of Apple Machine might be equivalent to this.

Do you know?

 

It might be the:

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The price for the config of Apple Mac Studio might be around Bt.105,000.00

I cannot afford such a total waste of money...

For several reasons, but here is just one of many good reasons:

image.png.964db78f1c74f6e89c69fae59b0cfb1d.png

 

I never liked JOBS, anyway.

He is fruit happy, and that is what killed him, in the end.

I went OPENSOURCE, long ago, back in the year 2000.

 

So, my MUST HAVE now is this ASUS ProArt X870E-Creator motherboard,...

As I keep telling you.

 

Also, I must do everything on the cheap.

Not so easy, but possible...maybe...

 

 

 

You went from the M4 Mini to the thermal issues of the Mac Studio.  These are not the same. I own the M1 Mini, and I primarily use it for Lightroom. It performs better than any Intel machine I've ever owned.

 

You do not need 2TB on internal storage; you can add an external drive for a low price.    Do you really need 64 gigs of RAM?   What is your use case?  

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36 minutes ago, TedG said:

You went from the M4 Mini to the thermal issues of the Mac Studio.  These are not the same. I own the M1 Mini, and I primarily use it for Lightroom. It performs better than any Intel machine I've ever owned.

 

You do not need 2TB on internal storage; you can add an external drive for a low price.    Do you really need 64 gigs of RAM?   What is your use case?  

 

aa. You are entirely correct, completely correct, that at this time I might not need 64GB of DRAM.

However, please keep in mind that the AMD integrated graphics solution (NO DISCRETE GPU) comes with a recommended 12GB of VRAM requirement, especially since I intend always using this PC with THREE MONITORS.

 

And, as we know, for integrated graphics, we will set up the VRAM in the BIOS through using a portion of available DRAM sticks on the MB.

This means that if I start with 64GB of DRAM, and then subtract 12GB allotted for VRAM, I am left with only 52GB available.

 

Next, you are still correct that I might choose 32GB of DRAM to begin with...but...

After subtracting 12GB to give to VRAM, this will leave me with only 20 GB of main memory.

 

This is really not enough for me, since I plan to sometimes run VirtualBox, and this is a memory hog.

If I run VIRTUAL BOX, while at the same time doing other tasks....

THEN....the 20GB of main memory I once thought might be enough turns out to be insufficient.

So, this is my reasoning.

 

bb. This computer is an AMD machine, not an i5 machine.

 

cc.  Plus, I need TWO Ethernet ports, and so I don't know if the M4 Mini might provide this, but I guess it might.

 

dd. Then there is the OS problem:  I have never used Apple OS, and it is not open, and very controlling of Apple's customers.

 

ee. The other important factor is cost, and easy repair, which I can do myself with the build I have selected.

 

ff. It would also be a nightmare to switch all my peripherals to Apple, including monitors. So, this is a NO GO from the beginning.

 

My best choice is LEAP 16.0, which is fantastic, not proprietary, and free. Plus, the Green Gecko does something for me.

 

I just need to solve the ASUS motherboard sourcing issue, I think.

Then, all will be smooth sailing.

And, I do not intend to buy any more computer stuff that includes RAM, for another decade, or maybe eight years.

 

Here in the US, I find that to be; US $450 (Amazon), US $500 (Newegg) US $600 (Best Buys).  

So doubt you will find it cheaper.

 

Note: X870 is 1 chipset, X870P and X870E have 2 chipsets,

 

Another review;   Your board is listed,,,

https://www.techspot.com/review/2907-amd-x870-motherboards/
AMD X870-X870E Motherboard Roundup; 21 Motherboards Tested
By Steven Walton October 22, 2024

 

Find a option, I like ASrock Full size ATX

Good luck,

Happy Holidays,

Season Greets.

Howto

 

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5 hours ago, howto said:

Here in the US, I find that to be; US $450 (Amazon), US $500 (Newegg) US $600 (Best Buys).  

So doubt you will find it cheaper.

 

Note: X870 is 1 chipset, X870P and X870E have 2 chipsets,

 

Another review;   Your board is listed,,,

https://www.techspot.com/review/2907-amd-x870-motherboards/
AMD X870-X870E Motherboard Roundup; 21 Motherboards Tested
By Steven Walton October 22, 2024

 

Find a option, I like ASrock Full size ATX

Good luck,

Happy Holidays,

Season Greets.

Howto

 

 

Hello and thank you for the linked review for the ProArt X870E-Creator board from ASUS.

 

My reasoning for choosing this ASUS board is that I have the following constraints:

 

a. I must have native-video connection from the back panel of the motherboard DIRECTLY to three monitors, with no daisy chaining.  

b. For reliability and simplicity, I rule out either a MST solution, or some other active video adapter solution.

c. I am OK with passive adapters, such as from the USB4 ports to "legacy" monitors.

d. No gaming computers from ASUS offer direct connection to 3 monitors.

e. The ProArt X670E-Creator board, two years older, is just about the same price as the X870-E, here in Thailand. And, the X870-E is better and newer. Either of these ASUS boards will work, but there are no other ASUS boards, that I have been able to research, which meet this basic requirement.

f. This board has 7 USB ports. I tend to use them up and there never enough. 7 is a lucky number, anyway.

g. Due to these reasons,  ProArt X870E-Creator is only acceptable ASUS board for me.  From my research, there is really no other suitable offering.

 

But what sticks in my craw is that this board costs more than my Samsung Phone, and almost as much as my large Samsung refrigerator, though more than my Hitachi refrigerator. I just can't get my head around having to pay this much for a simple board, even before I begin adding stuff to it, such as SSD, CPU, Cooler, and PSU. 

 

Maybe I can fool myself into paying this much since I am saving money on the No Discrete GPU choice. 

I don't want to support NVIDIA, anyway, after reading that NVIDIA-FU comment made by Linus, several years ago.

 

I had thought that I might be able to find this board offered at deep discount, maybe 30-percent or 45-percent reduction, during some promotion, or something.

But, looking at JIB, I have seen that this board is listed as Out of Stock, even though this board was first released in 2024. So, why is this, I ask myself.

 

There might be some good strategy to get this board at a decent and reasonable price, since I think I have no other option.

For me, it's a good decision to pay more for a MB, because I need something versatile that will last 10 years, just as my other ASUS boards last 10 years or more.

I think paying more of a good board is better than paying for more storage, for example, for my usage.

 

Where there is a will, there is a way?

Not always, but I must have this board, and I must NOT pay such an outrageous price.

IMHO, ASUS makes wonderful boards, and offers terrible after-sales service.  This is fine with me, since I don't like to contact anyone for service, ever. Total waste of time and resources.

 

By the way, ...

Did I tell you how beautiful this board is?

I will enjoy sleeping at night, just knowing it is lying next to me.

I am NOT joking, this time.

 

I like this vid highlighting the beauty of her:

I think this vid was uploaded by some Asian guy, maybe from Singapore or HK, or some place, judging by the refined and calming music.

Ordinarily, you got that jarring K-Poop music with motherboard reviews, which is too jarring and distracting.

 

But, this music highlights the beauty and majesty of this board.

I MUST have it.

I would not die for this board, but I must have it, just the same.

 

There is always a way.

There is always a way.

 

USD45 per year, spread over 10 years, just for a motherboard?

Definitely overpriced from the start, and maybe this is an ASUS marketing issue.

 

 

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6 hours ago, howto said:

Find a option, I like ASrock Full size ATX

Good luck,

Happy Holidays,

Season Greets.

Howto

 

Everybody on TV tells me that they cannot read my writing, due to many reasons.

Therefore, I have revised it, a bit but not much, as follows.

Is my logic based on wrong assumptions or faulty?

Or, do I really need this board, even though I simply must have it?

 

Hello,

Thank you for the review link for the ASUS ProArt X870E-Creator.

After extensive research, I have concluded that this motherboard is the only viable option for my "MountainA" build due to several non-negotiable constraints:

  • Triple-Monitor Native Support: I require direct video connections from the back panel to three monitors without daisy-chaining.

  • Reliability & Simplicity: I have ruled out MST (Multi-Stream Transport) hubs or active video adapters. While I am comfortable using high-quality passive adapters (e.g., USB4 to DisplayPort/HDMI), the signal must remain stable and direct.

  • The ProArt Advantage: Interestingly, no ASUS gaming-tier boards support three native monitors. Furthermore, in the Thai market, the two-year-old X670E-Creator is priced nearly identically to the new X870E, making the newer board the only logical choice.

  • Connectivity: The inclusion of seven USB ports is essential; in my workflow, USB ports are a finite resource that I tend to exhaust quickly.

Despite its technical suitability, the price remains a significant hurdle. It is difficult to reconcile a motherboard costing more than a refrigerator or a mid-tier smartphone. However, I can justify the investment by forgoing a discrete GPU—partly as a cost-saving measure and partly to align with Linus Torvalds’ famous critique of NVIDIA’s lack of open-source cooperation.

Since I intend for this workstation to last at least a decade—consistent with my previous ASUS builds—investing in a high-quality motherboard is more logical than overspending on temporary storage.

Currently, JIB and other local vendors list the board as "Out of Stock," which is frustrating for a 2024/2025 release. I am looking for a sourcing strategy that avoids the "outrageous" MSRP, perhaps through a specific promotion or a 30–45% discount. While I acknowledge that ASUS after-sales service can be lacking, I prioritize hardware longevity over support, as I prefer to never need service in the first place.

Ultimately, this board is a masterpiece of engineering. Its aesthetic is refined—much like the calm, sophisticated music in the review video I found, which stands in stark contrast to the jarring "K-Pop" style typically found in tech reviews. At an amortized cost of $45 per year over a ten-year lifespan, it is a steep but necessary investment for a machine of this caliber.

There is always a way to source the right gear at the right price. I intend to find it.


Logic and Benefits of the ProArt X870E-Creator

Technical Logic

The ProArt X870E-Creator is uniquely positioned for your 10-year "MountainA" project because it leverages the dual USB4 (40Gbps) ports alongside a dedicated HDMI 2.1 port. In the current 2025 landscape, this is the most stable way to achieve a three-monitor setup without a discrete GPU. By using the DisplayPort-in feature (if needed) or the native Alt-Mode of the USB4 ports, you bypass the sync issues and heat-related failures common in active MST hubs. Furthermore, the X870E chipset offers superior PCIe 5.0 lanes compared to the B650-Creator, ensuring that as NVMe speeds evolve over the next decade, your motherboard won't become a bottleneck.

Sourcing Strategy

In Thailand, the "Out of Stock" status at JIB often indicates a "special order" item rather than a true lack of global supply. Given the 2025 market shift, your best strategy is to look toward InvadeIT (based in Hua Hin but ships nationwide) or specialized vendors in Fortune Town (Bangkok) who can often source ProArt stock that isn't listed on mainstream websites. To achieve your desired 30% discount, look for "Open Box" units from professional workstations that were never deployed, or wait for the Shopee/Lazada 1.1 or 2.2 sales specifically using "Store Wide" discount vouchers, which are often the only way to significantly undercut MSRP in the Thai tech market.

 

Where there is a will, then there is sometimes a way.

But, a hunger strike will not help, I guess...

Even though it might make me feel better, at the moment.

 

 

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The current price in Thailand for the ProArt X870E-Creator WiFi  board, at least from major retailers such as JIB:

 

The best I found, so far from JIB, or example:  About Bt.16,500.00

This seems significantly higher than the suggested USD retail price from ASUS.

So, yes, out of sight, as the expression goes.

Maybe I will check Taiwan.

Wish I were in Taiwan, for 24 hours, about now, and very near the Presidential Palace.

The computer shops there do a brusque business, and they offer fast service at the best prices.

Still, I would not leave Thailand for Taiwan, and not if you paid me.

 

I wonder what the real "mark-up" is for local retailers, on an item such as this board.

 

Maybe ASUS Headquarters would be willing to provide me with a Free Sample of this board if I promoted it on TV?

Possible?

So...

Yes, it's a beauty, alright...

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Just one more important note, considering that this Topic is mostly about overpricing and possible bogus price-gouging marketing strategies (if any might exist in the first place):

 

I truly do believe that it is incumbent upon us, as responsible consumers, to remain ever-vigilant, and never overpay for anything we buy.

Otherwise, we encourage suppliers and vendors to overprice, at random, just for the heck of it.

If all consumers would just refuse to pay the first price they might see, and exercise due diligence and a modicum of patience, we, working in concert, can limit and even stamp out needless price inflation.

 

Vendors will always overcharge us if they can get away with it.

This is just good business.

And we, as good consumers, must never let down our guard.

We must be willing to fight back, using our brains and our caring for one another.

 

Here is a case in point:

 

a.  About 18 months ago, I purchased this ASUS board through Amazon, directly from the ASUS store on Amazon...

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b. I am happy with this board. And, I think the price was not bad, since I did get a slight discount, which helped pay for the USD24.39 import charges.  When I get a decent product at a fair price, then I am happy as a clam.

 

c. But now, since I need direct connection of three monitors with no discrete GPU, I must buy another motherboard. I failed to verify that the USB-C on the Z790 gaming board could provide video output, even though I had read it was possible. This was my fault.

 

d. Here is what I see on Amazon USA for the X870E board, which I now need:

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It's not even available from the ASUS store?

And, then I see this:

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I don't want this board in a BUNDLE....!!!

Who do they think I am?

I just want the motherboard.

When they say BUNDLE, what do they mean, anyway?

Are they going to throw in an AMD 7 9700X?

 

My view is that Chiang Mai might not be the very best place to source computer components.

Still, I think that USD400.00, for a new board, 3-year warranty, might be an acceptable price if purchased from a reputable local-Thailand retailer.

 

So, the price should be:  Bt,12,400.00, and no more.

 

((Maybe we are lucky, when buying computer components, that we are not shopping for science textbooks, which often cost USD200.00, just for the textbook. And this does not include all the time one must devote to reading it, either...!!!))

 

THANKFULLY:  I finally found this link on AMAZON, for the ASUS Store....after much keyboard work...

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So, OK...now we are getting there...but we still have a ways to go, I think.

I worry what might happen if I bought this board through Amazon USA, and then received a board that was DOA, or had some minor problem, or major problem, or was some product that had been returned to Amazon, USA, since we know that Americans love to return things to retailers, on a whim...and often are not very honest consumers.  Yes.  American consumers lack the morals of consumers in Thailand, and we know this is true.

 

So, If I ordered from Amazon USA, and paid this price, I might get into hot water, and be slowing boiled in the pot, like any good frog. I just mean that I am already in the pot, and I can feel the heat beginning to rise, yet I cannot be sure about it.

 

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I want this board so much, now, I can even taste it.

 

 

3 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

But what sticks in my craw is that this board costs more than my Samsung Phone, and almost as much as my large Samsung refrigerator, though more than my Hitachi refrigerator. I just can't get my head around having to pay this much for a simple board, even before I begin adding stuff to it, such as SSD, CPU, Cooler, and PSU. 

 

Just wait until you price the RAM you require...  🤣

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41 minutes ago, VR333 said:

 

Just wait until you price the RAM you require...  🤣

 

That is a different story, and one which might have an odd twist to it.

 

Anyway, originally, I had just planned to split a 64GB kit between the i5 computer and this newer AMD computer.

And, no I would not buy NEW DRAM, these days.

However, it might be possible to find another way.

 

So, to address your NEW RAM pricing concern, at this point of time in history:  I would not buy NEW RAM, now, or this coming year, no matter what.

 

32 GB of RAM would be barely OK, yet sufficient, if I had to bite the bullet, even if I had to split a kit, and do without dual-channel functionality.

But...

64GB of RAM is what would be required if I hoped to run VirtualBox, simultaneously, while also doing other things, Such as hosting multi-guest Google Meets, etc.

 

I never play computer games, and do not intend to ever do so, in this life.

 

The Motherboard, though...I will not be able to do without, and still meet my basic requirements.

 

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Also, I just checked this price, and this price, during the past several hours has already risen by USD17.00.

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I guess they, whoever "they" might be, are trying to drive me crazy?

 

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Now, I wonder, and am waiting, for the price to drop, post-Christmas shopping.

 

 

“I'm just saying they don't need to have 30 dolls. They can have three. They don't need to have 250 pencils. They can have five.”


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You know, Folks,

This MotherBoard-Buying Saga is beginning to tire me out.

And, I just hope that you readers are not feeling the same.

 

I am beginning to come to an informed conclusion here, one which I know will be of help to others placed in my predicament.

 

Here is what I have learned about sourcing this particular board, as of this very moment:

 

a.  Price (NOW) from PCPARTPICKER.com https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mFFmP6/asus-proart-x870e-creator-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-proart-x870e-creator-wifi

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b. Price HISTORY from PC PARTPICKER  (One Year History)

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c. Pangoly

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d. Pangoly Price History (One Year)

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e. We can plainly see that the price for this board does not fluctuate much and hovers around USD500.00 if purchased and delivered in the USA.

Ordering this board from Amazon for delivery to Thailand will involve about USD45.00 import charges, and will be sent Free of Shipping Costs.

This raises the price to USD550.00, and nobody seems to ever offer deep discounts on this crazy board.

 

e2.  If I use my Google Chrome Browser Calculator, I can convert USD550.00 to Thai Baht...

Even I can see this puts the price at BT.17325.00.

 

f. JIB (NOW) offers this board for Bt.16500.00. And, I can pick it up from my favorite shop, with a 2 - 3 day ordering lead time, at JIB Chiang Mai, with super nice staff. I love their shop, actually.

Always a smile, never a frown, and Golden Brown...

 

So, is this a no-brainer?

Yes, at least it seems to be....

 

g. Now, I am wondering:

Is there any way to get a 10-percent discount at JIB...IF...I become a member, or something?

 

h. Well, unless I find some other better price, here in Thailand, I must buy in Thailand the board I must have.

And, I am also thinking if there might be a lower price from some reliable retailer...because there could be, I suppose.

 

CRITICAL NOTE:  At the very least, I will not worry too much that I might have been able to get this board in the USA, for a much lower price. Right?

 

20 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Note:  Nobody can say that this board is not a complete BEAUTY....

 

That board is not a complete beauty,  

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4 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

That board is not a complete beauty,  

 

George Webber might say it is a 10.

Sadly, Dudley has passed, and we will never know.

 

I will say it is a 9.

 

(Also, I recognize that I must pay what I must pay. I just don't want to find a better deal, a week after I have gotten my hands on it.)

 

7 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

George Webber might say it is a 10.

Sadly, Dudley has passed, and we will never know.

 

I will say it is a 9.

 

(Also, I recognize that I must pay what I must pay. I just don't want to find a better deal, a week after I have gotten my hands on it.)

 

well once you get your hands on one simply stop looking,  job sorted

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5 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

well once you get your hands on one simply stop looking,  job sorted

 

But...
How to control my OCD?

 

Ever thought of THAT?

 

On 12/21/2025 at 7:34 PM, GammaGlobulin said:

Note:  Nobody can say that this board is not a complete BEAUTY....

 

It may be purty, but in a year, it'll be obsolete for serious gamers and computer wonks.  That's just the way it works.  You'll be looking to upgrade next year.

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1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

It may be purty, but in a year, it'll be obsolete for serious gamers and computer wonks.  That's just the way it works.  You'll be looking to upgrade next year.

 

Your point is well taken:

 

a. For serious gamers, computer wonks, and top-level computer hobbyists, this board would probably be very unsuitable.

 

b. But for one who intends to build a desktop which will be used for five to eight years, or more, then then X870E might be a good contender. 

 

c. I am still using computers I assembled in 2013 and 2015 (daily), and all components, (the ASUS MBs especially), are working well. All ports are still working. But, the i5-4670 CPU @ 3.40GHz with 16GB of RAM struggles a bit.  And, the i5-2500K struggles a bit more, yet both are still good for work, and still function as they did on Day-One. LEAP 16.0 is also perfect for both.  Glad I now never, and will never, touch Windows again, though.

 

d. I am not the nervous type, one who must upgrade my machines every year. I would become too tired and stressed out, if I were.

 

e. I want the fastest LAN speed I can find, at this moment. And dual-Ethernet is a plus.  Also, GAMING Rigs do not offer 3-direct-video-connection from the back panel, which is MUST for me.

 

f. The price is WAY TOO HIGH, and I don't like paying this much.  However, for my video-requirement constraints, there is now very few boards to consider, unless I were to add a discrete GPU, which I refuse to do.  Gaming boards can connect up to TWO monitors, using integrated graphics, and no more, at least ASUS boards.

 

g. Also, I have never been a wonk at anything, alas....(Other than TV, of course...)

 

 

 

On 12/21/2025 at 11:34 AM, GammaGlobulin said:

Now in desperate need of X870E-Creator board from ASUS at good price.

 

Why do I need this board?

Because, I hate discrete graphics.

Also, I can save mucho dollars by not using one of those overpriced NVIDA graphics cards.

And, since NVIDIA GPUs will be coming with less RAM then they should have, since NVIDIA is cutting corners on RAM, or will.

 

So, AMD integrated graphics solution is the way to go, because I hate Computer Games.

 

The problem is price, and price alone.

I like this board, and it is the only one from ASUS with native-3-monitor connections from the back panel...besides the X670E-Creator...which..is now being palmed off at an inflated price, maybe due to legacy issues, but who knows.

 

I have only one board that makes sense to me.

Should I do one of those GO FUND ME campaigns?  (Don't be ridiculous!)

If the X870E-Creator board is new, new box, with 3-year warranty, and sold by some reliable source, then...

I am thinking I might consider buying for about Bt.10,000, and I need ONLY one board, after all.

 

This board has TWO Ethernet ports, which I like.

Also, this board has many other important features....such as TWO USB4 ports for two monitors, plus one HDMI port.

Yes, for my special uses, I cannot go wrong with this board.

 

There MUST be a way for me to find this board for about Bt.10,000, one might imagine.

 

What about after-Christmas specials?

In Thailand, do we have Christmas sales promotions or anything?

 

I know that if I can buy this board, most of my troubles will be behind me.

 

The 3-Year warranty will offer me the protection I need...unless for example...

I brick the thing updating the BIOS with the unstable power supply around my house.

 

I really cannot figure why ASUS is charging so much for this board.

One would think that it is not in popular demand, simply because this is NOT a gaming board.

No flashing lights that distract old people, either.

 

I don't know anyone at ASUS.

But, in the past, I did know someone at ASUS headquarters.

Now though, I bet he is long gone.

 

Bt.10,000 seems a reasonable price, to me.

 

I must have this board.

The only question is...HOW....

 

Thank you and regards,

Gamma

 

Note:  Nobody can say that this board is not a complete BEAUTY....

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I hope you never have something real to worry about. 

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