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A middle-class family’s only option: $43,000 health insurance

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JACKSON HOLE, Wyo. — Like millions of other Americans, Stacy Newton turns to Healthcare.gov to shop for health insurance for her family...

But for the Newtons and many others in the country, next year’s menu is severely limited: There is only one company offering ACA plans here — and costs have risen steeply.

To continue health coverage for themselves and their two teenage children, the Newtons would have to pay an annual premium of $43,000 — about a third of their gross income. It is the price of the cheapest plan available to the family from Blue Cross Blue Shield of Wyoming, the only ACA insurer left in Teton County.

https://archive.ph/ybtU5

 

Apart from the cutback in subsidies, another reason for the high rate is the fact that in the face of such high rates, younger, healthier people are more likely to take a chance and forego paying for insurance. Which means that whoever is left in the pool are going to be older and more unwell.

 

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  • Thank you Obama, and one of the main reasons I decided not to retire in USA.  Overall 'rent' (health ins & RE taxes) is poor return for dollars spent, for the privilege of staying in USA.  

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Thank you Obama, and one of the main reasons I decided not to retire in USA.  Overall 'rent' (health ins & RE taxes) is poor return for dollars spent, for the privilege of staying in USA.

 

Even at retirement age (66), and if on Medicare (past 5 yrs), that Plan B premium, is more than I've spent on healthcare in TH, (without premiums + deductibles for everything) and just pay cash, which include full med check ups every couple years, and not really covered on Medicare, without deductibles for GP, Specialist, and test / procedures.

 

Add paying the govt 'rent' (RE Taxes) for a house you already paid for and own, is just silly.

 

So at 45, I didn't know where I was going to retire, I just knew it wouldn't be the USA.  Get more bang for your buck, now baht, elsewhere.  Along with almost everything, (except maybe food) is much cheaper here, since closer to CN, or anything that involves labor.

 

 

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Obama ..? No one had the will to change it

In the last decade? 

17 minutes ago, Jim Blue said:

Obama ..? No one had the will to change it

In the last decade? 

The left have been in control.   Trump 1 was completely sidetracked with impeachment and corrupt DOJ, along with picking poor advisors.   Dem controlled House also.

 

He corrected that so far, this administration.   

 

If he could replace ACA, that would be a historic accomplishment, and beneficial to the 100s of millions that use medical services, or rely on premiums.  Healthcare was way more affordable before ACA.

 

Will never happen though, as the deep state is really enjoying their profits.  Both Dems & Reps are simply too corrupt.  If not for Vance, I think they would have bumped Trump off already.

 

Vance and Rubio, scare the hell out of them.

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3 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

The left have been in control.   Trump 1 was completely sidetracked with impeachment and corrupt DOJ, along with picking poor advisors.   Dem controlled House also.

 

He corrected that so far, this administration.   

 

If he could replace ACA, that would be a historic accomplishment, and beneficial the 100s of millions that use medical services.  Healthcare was way more affordable before ACA.

Yes trump will fix it!

He already had a "concept of a plan" many years ago and many times he has said it will be done in the next two weeks!

Hilarious! and very sad people actually believe him.

Now they shut down the house,no healthcare for many people.

I guess this is trumps way to make america great again.

bye bye trump.

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5 minutes ago, jvs said:

Yes trump will fix it!

He already had a "concept of a plan" many years ago and many times he has said it will be done in the next two weeks!

Hilarious! and very sad people actually believe him.

Now they shut down the house,no healthcare for many people.

I guess this is trumps way to make america great again.

bye bye trump.

Actually, I think it was rather a plan for a concept of a plan.

55 minutes ago, jvs said:

Yes trump will fix it!

He already had a "concept of a plan" many years ago and many times he has said it will be done in the next two weeks!

Hilarious! and very sad people actually believe him.

Now they shut down the house,no healthcare for many people.

I guess this is trumps way to make america great again.

bye bye trump.

Shut down for people that don't deserve it ... got it 

 

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1166931002038316

 

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7 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Shut down for people that don't deserve it ... got it 

 

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1166931002038316

 

Yes, they committed the sin of living in America. Some of them compound that by coming down with life threatening illnesses. Shame on them!

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1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Thank you Obama, and one of the main reasons I decided not to retire in USA.  Overall 'rent' (health ins & RE taxes) is poor return for dollars spent, for the privilege of staying in USA.

 

Even at retirement age (66), and if on Medicare (past 5 yrs), that Plan B premium, is more than I've spent on healthcare in TH, (without premiums + deductibles for everything) and just pay cash, which include full med check ups every couple years, and not really covered on Medicare, without deductibles for GP, Specialist, and test / procedures.

 

Add paying the govt 'rent' (RE Taxes) for a house you already paid for and own, is just silly.

 

So at 45, I didn't know where I was going to retire, I just knew it wouldn't be the USA.  Get more bang for your buck, now baht, elsewhere.  Along with almost everything, (except maybe food) is much cheaper here, since closer to CN, or anything that involves labor.

 

 

Taxes are brutal when you're from a blue state

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1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

The left have been in control.   Trump 1 was completely sidetracked with impeachment and corrupt DOJ, along with picking poor advisors.   Dem controlled House also.

 

He corrected that so far, this administration.   

 

If he could replace ACA, that would be a historic accomplishment, and beneficial to the 100s of millions that use medical services, or rely on premiums.  Healthcare was way more affordable before ACA.

 

Will never happen though, as the deep state is really enjoying their profits.  Both Dems & Reps are simply too corrupt.  If not for Vance, I think they would have bumped Trump off already.

 

Vance and Rubio, scare the hell out of them.

For the first 2 years of his presidency Republicans controlled the House and Senate.  And how exactly did the ACA make employer sponsored plans more expensive. As for "the deep state is really enjoying their profits".... you got any actual evidence to support that claim?

 

 

 

 

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Just now, Yagoda said:

Taxes are brutal when you're from a blue state

Thanks for the Pavlovian response. This has exactly what to do with health insurance?

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41 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

For the first 2 years of his presidency Republicans controlled the House and Senate.  And how exactly did the ACA make employer sponsored plans more expensive. As for "the deep state is really enjoying their profits".... you got any actual evidence to support that claim?

 

Guess you only watch MSM, and don't know anyone in the workforce.   Companies started to pass cost to workers, with 'co payment' for coverage.   Other companies, cut workforce to get under limit, and or, cut full time workers, with more part time (no healthcare or partial payment) or 'casual' temp workers.

 

Even subcontracted employees, and another option, contract the employee directly, then they are a business of their own, and need to pay.   Lots of ways to cut overhead when mandatory govt policies cut into profit.

 

Some companies, simply shut down, or ... and yea, moved manufacturing to Mexico or overseas.  You seem to have no concept of reality, probably because you never owned a business in USA, or lived there.

59 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Yes, they committed the sin of living in America. Some of them compound that by coming down with life threatening illnesses. Shame on them!

... illegally.   Yea I know, you don't open links, but reply anyway :cheesy:

50 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Thanks for the Pavlovian response. This has exactly what to do with health insurance?

Pavlovian? You are the one jumping in lol.

 

 

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Move to Canada......:giggle:

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3 minutes ago, brian69 said:

Move to Canada......:giggle:

North or south. Just run, Forrest!😄

 

 

 

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Time to tax those who can afford it, right?:thumbsup:

 

(Cue the squeals about communism/socialism.😁)

 

 

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9 minutes ago, brian69 said:

Move to Canada......:giggle:

 

Actually, you're spot on!:thumbsup:

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Pavlovian? You are the one jumping in lol.

 

 

I'm sure you think that "jumping in" whatever that means, is Pavlovian.

1 hour ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Yes, they committed the sin of living in America. Some of them compound that by coming down with life threatening illnesses. Shame on them!

 

Yes, they committed the sin of living in America. Some of them compound that by coming to America with life threatening illnesses, for the free healthcare the Dems keep promising. Shame on them!

 

Fixed it for you.

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2 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Yes, they committed the sin of living in America. Some of them compound that by coming to America with life threatening illnesses, for the free healthcare the Dems keep promising. Shame on them!

 

Fixed it for you.

I'm sure in your mind that this has something to do with the ACA. I'm at a loss for how to unconfuse you.

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4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Taxes are brutal when you're from a blue state

Yes they are and they pay for the poor red states.

5 hours ago, brian69 said:

Move to Canada......:giggle:

Or the UK ( plus no checks on last 5 years social media posts).

2 hours ago, jvs said:

Yes they are and they pay for the poor red states.

, wow, I didn't know that the exorbitant state taxes in New Jersey california, new york, Connecticut and Massachusetts were siphoned off for Mississippi and Arkansas.

 

Try thinking before you post

6 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

I'm sure you think that "jumping in" whatever that means, is Pavlovian.

I'm your tinkling bell. 

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9 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Thank you Obama, and one of the main reasons I decided not to retire in USA.  Overall 'rent' (health ins & RE taxes) is poor return for dollars spent, for the privilege of staying in USA.

 

Even at retirement age (66), and if on Medicare (past 5 yrs), that Plan B premium, is more than I've spent on healthcare in TH, (without premiums + deductibles for everything) and just pay cash, which include full med check ups every couple years, and not really covered on Medicare, without deductibles for GP, Specialist, and test / procedures.

 

Add paying the govt 'rent' (RE Taxes) for a house you already paid for and own, is just silly.

 

So at 45, I didn't know where I was going to retire, I just knew it wouldn't be the USA.  Get more bang for your buck, now baht, elsewhere.  Along with almost everything, (except maybe food) is much cheaper here, since closer to CN, or anything that involves labor.

 

 

 

Perhaps USA should join Canada.

 

Everything free. I'm livin' the dream.

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3 hours ago, jvs said:

Yes they are and they pay for the poor red states.

False 

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

, wow, I didn't know that the exorbitant state taxes in New Jersey california, new york, Connecticut and Massachusetts were siphoned off for Mississippi and Arkansas.

 

Try thinking before you post

It’s another dumb lefty talking point.

12 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

JACKSON HOLE, Wyo. — Like millions of other Americans, Stacy Newton turns to Healthcare.gov to shop for health insurance for her family...

But for the Newtons and many others in the country, next year’s menu is severely limited: There is only one company offering ACA plans here — and costs have risen steeply.

To continue health coverage for themselves and their two teenage children, the Newtons would have to pay an annual premium of $43,000 — about a third of their gross income. It is the price of the cheapest plan available to the family from Blue Cross Blue Shield of Wyoming, the only ACA insurer left in Teton County.

https://archive.ph/ybtU5

 

Apart from the cutback in subsidies, another reason for the high rate is the fact that in the face of such high rates, younger, healthier people are more likely to take a chance and forego paying for insurance. Which means that whoever is left in the pool are going to be older and more unwell.

 

The ACA is a total failure.

10 hours ago, jvs said:

Yes trump will fix it!

He already had a "concept of a plan" many years ago and many times he has said it will be done in the next two weeks!

Hilarious! and very sad people actually believe him.

Now they shut down the house,no healthcare for many people.

I guess this is trumps way to make america great again.

bye bye trump.

 

Trumps plan will never be seen. Plus he's not strong enough to write it now, and in last 2 weeks fell on the aircraft steps and is having trouble with all walking.   

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