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Trump says Russia wants Ukraine to Succeed!

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17 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So to clarify, are the dozens and dozens of lefty "credible sources" that used to bang on pre invasion about Ukraine having a serious Nazi problem lying? Or was it propaganda? Or the Nazis all evaporated? Love to hear the spin on this🤣

I cant be bothered to post the infamous collage of legacy msm headlines stating exactly that. 

Of course you can't!:cheesy:

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  • Indeed Russia does want Ukraine to be a successful, healthy state. Russia never had any intention to occupy all of Ukraine. It just doesn't want Ukraine in the European/American/NATO orbit, for obviou

  • Briefly Grok is there any push back by the US public around such alarming comments by their US president? Grok: Yes, there has been notable push back from US critics, media

  • I'd remind people that the US PROMISED to protect Ukraine in exchange for giving up their nuclear arsenal except no one cares about the "word" given by the government.

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5 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Imagine the willpower and self-control required by Zelenskyy not to go over to Trump and smack his lying mug!

 

'‘A Complete Embarrassment’: Critics Skewer Trump For Declaring ‘Russia Wants To See Ukraine Succeed’'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/complete-embarrassment-critics-skewer-trump-000130737.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAI-M3jQJo-iX-R93V5c4qMxuGlWk7wF9Dj6-YZDZsrJ9TlxRR_UBfIOaTygp5zam960zc3muLqW3012X9oPyqR44hCyEamAMYNTij402DqfD7LjJjXc-yB4yO5wlZD6VmNfa-JuFqWpL6eqJDt7kbiG3AR7QY3pAoWE1K6t5fs3I

 

"“Russia wants to see Ukraine succeed,” Trump told reporters. “It sounds a little strange but I was explaining to the president, President Putin was very generous in his feeling toward Ukraine succeeding. Including supplying energy, electricity, and other things at very low prices.”"

 

So, in other words, if Ukraine gives in to all Russian demands they might get cheap electricity. The art of the deal from the master deal maker!

:cheesy::cheesy::cheesy:


Trump would make America a better place if he dumped Zelinsky and Ukraine and committed to economic and security treaties with Russia and China.
The combo of the US, China, and Russia would be the strongest and most prosperous alliance in the history of mankind.

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5 minutes ago, connda said:


Trump would make America a better place if he dumped Zelinsky and Ukraine and committed to economic and security treaties with Russia and China.
The combo of the US, China, and Russia would be the strongest and most prosperous alliance in the history of mankind.

 

This has got to be one of the dumbest posts I have ever read. Congratulations, because the competition was fierce!:thumbsup:

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3 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Occasionally I wonder if those few propagandists here are just stupid or is Russia paying them?

Over decades Americans have proven, that they are in general entitled, uneducated morons.

 

I would not attribute malice, where pure stupidity explains it all already...

52 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I'm sure you can supply over 100. But only one of the articles you offered was even close to recent and that came from 2023

 

58 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The only article you cited that was published after the Russian invasion and that was about the complicated relationship to Nazism of symbols that some Ukrainian soldiers wear. But nothing explicit about their beliefs vis-a-vis Nazism.

Whereas here's an recent article dated sept 25, 2025 about a genuine nasty Neo Nazi and his recruiting efforts for the Russians

 

Exclusive: The Russian Neo-Nazi Behind A Shadowy GRU Recruitment Campaign

The man behind the Defend The Motherland video and the recruitments bots is the deputy head of Melodiya. He's also a notorious Russian neo-Nazi blogger and mercenary who has fought in Ukraine, celebrated Adolf Hitler's birthday, called for castrating Ukrainians, and described warfare as a sexual experience.

"When a man goes to war, it's a sexual desire," the man, Yevgeny Rasskazov, said in a video interview broadcast in 2021, about six months before Russia's all-out invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-gru-nazi-sabotage-recruitment-telegram/33539661.html

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6 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

I'm sure you can supply over 100. But only one of the articles you offered was even close to recent and that came from 2023

 

The only article you cited that was published after the Russian invasion and that was about the complicated relationship to Nazism of symbols that some Ukrainian soldiers wear. But nothing explicit about their beliefs vis-a-vis Nazism.

Whereas here's an recent article dated sept 25, 2025 about a genuine nasty Neo Nazi and his recruiting efforts for the Russians

 

Exclusive: The Russian Neo-Nazi Behind A Shadowy GRU Recruitment Campaign

The man behind the Defend The Motherland video and the recruitments bots is the deputy head of Melodiya. He's also a notorious Russian neo-Nazi blogger and mercenary who has fought in Ukraine, celebrated Adolf Hitler's birthday, called for castrating Ukrainians, and described warfare as a sexual experience.

"When a man goes to war, it's a sexual desire," the man, Yevgeny Rasskazov, said in a video interview broadcast in 2021, about six months before Russia's all-out invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-gru-nazi-sabotage-recruitment-telegram/33539661.html

 

Well, this came as an absolute shock!😂

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I agree with Robin.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Very unfortunate, but war crimes tend to be committed by criminals on the ground, not planned at the top.

I get the impression you actually believe the nonsense you write? Putin has assign released prisoners, criminals and murderers to his front lines to fight his illegal war. 

For a little comic relief, here's a press gang chasing down a couple of patriotic, I guess, Ukrainians. Danged people don't want to die. How ungrateful can you be after your country's received billions from the West?

 

 

4 hours ago, BLMFem said:

I agree with Robin.

 

 

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You know what's most surprising? I've never seen anyone paint Russian flags and coats of arms on politicians who failed to take away Russia's nuclear weapons at its moment of greatest weakness. But now everyone's blaming Trump for his inability to ignore the obvious.

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Maybe Trump misunderstood or has hearing problems and Putin said:

 

Russia wants Ukraine to SECEDE

Zelensky splits with Trump and doubts Putin wants peace in Ukraine; ‘I don’t see it’ - New York Post

 

https://nypost.com/2025/12/29/us-news/volodymyr-zelensky-splits-with-president-trump-doubts-vladimir-putin-wants-peace-in-ukraine-i-dont-see-it/?utm_source=reddit.com

 

During their powwow at Mar-a-Lago Sunday, Trump was asked by a reporter if he believes Putin is serious about peace and replied, “I do.”

Trump spoke with Putin for nearly two hours before his meeting with Zelensky to run through the 20-point peace plan. The Russian brute has repeatedly threatened to keep waging war on Ukraine until the Kremlin conquers the remainder of the Donbas region.

A lot of shady Trump stuff is going down in the UAE and their gold markets are the biggest money washing enterprise in the world. 

 

https://www.mofa.gov.ae/en/MediaHub/News/2025/12/29/UAE-Russia

 

The United Arab Emirates has strongly condemned the attempt to target the residence of His Excellency Vladimir Putin, President of the Russian Federation, and denounced this deplorable attack and the threat it poses to security and stability.

In a statement, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA) affirmed the UAE’s solidarity with the President of the Russian Federation, as well as with the government and people of Russia. The Ministry reiterated the UAE’s unwavering rejection of all forms of violence aimed at undermining security and stability.

 

  • A $2 billion crypto investment from a UAE government-linked firm (MGX) into the Trump family's World Liberty Financial platform in 2025, tied to broader U.S.-UAE agreements on AI chips and tech. Critics (e.g., NYT investigations, senators like Elizabeth Warren) called it potential influence-peddling or corruption, with probes into officials like Steve Witkoff (Trump's Middle East envoy with family crypto ties).
  • Overlapping diplomacy and business (e.g., Trump visits securing billions in deals while family projects advance).

 

 

Putin has played Trump like a violin. 

 

Putin’s extraordinary claim could bring down peace talks

Russian leader’s drone attack allegation provides Moscow with a pretext to reject Trump’s proposal - TELEGRAPH 

 

https://archive.ph/v8xIC

 

Despite some astonishing language from Mr Trump in Putin’s defence, the Florida meeting had gone about as well as the Ukrainian president could have hoped. But the drone claim now threatens to derail the process for two reasons. It provides the Kremlin with a pretext to reject the peace deal Mr Trump is attempting to broker, and it gives Moscow an opportunity to persuade a US president often receptive to Russian narratives that Mr Zelensky is the villain.
Indeed, a “very angry” Mr Trump appeared to support the Kremlin narrative in comments outside Mar-a-Lago on Monday, saying: “It’s one thing to be offensive because they’re offensive. It’s another thing to attack his house. It’s not the right time to do any of that.”

2 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Maybe Trump misunderstood or has hearing problems and Putin said:

He has more than hearing problems. He has NPD.

 

People with NPD often resist feedback, criticism, or new information that challenges their self-image, as admitting gaps in knowledge feels threatening. They may struggle to learn from mistakes because they tend not to acknowledge errors in the first place. 

credit has to be given to Zelesnky for keeping his cool and a straight face when he hears so much stupidity out of Trump's mouth, he did had some funny expressions but overall he hold it well

 

First, Zelenskyy's facial expressions.

At times he looked exasperated - like when Trump made light of a profoundly important negotiation by talking about the Mar-a-Lago food and the physique of the Ukrainian leader's generals. Playground stuff

 

Trump's apparent willingness to go to Ukraine and address parliament there, which he articulated today for the first time, is a positive commitment.

Let's see if he sticks to it, or shifts again, and on the security guarantees.

 

It's easy to get lost in multi-point plans and spin - but Zelenskyy's reaction to Trump said it all

 

https://au.news.yahoo.com/easy-lost-multi-point-plans-023900562.html

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12 hours ago, zmisha said:


You know what's most surprising? I've never seen anyone paint Russian flags and coats of arms on politicians who failed to take away Russia's nuclear weapons at its moment of greatest weakness. But now everyone's blaming Trump for his inability to ignore the obvious.

You got it upside down. We're blaming Trump for ignoring the obvious.

 

 

 

 

some funny points about the meeting in Florida and do have a question, why Trump went out of his way to roll the red carpet for Putin while visiting Alaska and NOT doing the same for Zelensky, after all they are both heads of foreign states they should be treated equally, Trump's doing is discrimination and racism

 

this is what he said before speaking with Putin and the usual contradictions came on the next statement

“I think we’re in the very final stages of talking, and we’re going to see,”

 

Trump, after he shook Zelensky’s hand on the Mar-a-Lago steps, insisted he had no deadline in mind for ending the Ukraine war.

 

“It’s possible it doesn’t happen,” Trump said of a peace agreement. “In a few weeks, we’ll know one way or another.”

 

Takeaways from Trump’s meeting with Zelensky in Florida

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/takeaways-trump-meeting-zelensky-florida-001058930.html

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15 hours ago, Autocan said:

For a little comic relief, here's a press gang chasing down a couple of patriotic, I guess, Ukrainians. Danged people don't want to die. How ungrateful can you be after your country's received billions from the West?

 

 

 

So you don't even know if they're Ukrainian?😄

 

While on the subject of people fleeing the "special military operation", have you been to Phuket lately. Tens/hundreds of thousands of young Russian compatriots of yours.

Maybe you should go too?:thumbsup:

1 hour ago, Mavideol said:

credit has to be given to Zelesnky for keeping his cool and a straight face when he hears so much stupidity out of Trump's mouth, he did had some funny expressions but overall he hold it well

 

First, Zelenskyy's facial expressions.

At times he looked exasperated - like when Trump made light of a profoundly important negotiation by talking about the Mar-a-Lago food and the physique of the Ukrainian leader's generals. Playground stuff

 

Trump's apparent willingness to go to Ukraine and address parliament there, which he articulated today for the first time, is a positive commitment.

Let's see if he sticks to it, or shifts again, and on the security guarantees.

 

It's easy to get lost in multi-point plans and spin - but Zelenskyy's reaction to Trump said it all

 

https://au.news.yahoo.com/easy-lost-multi-point-plans-023900562.html

He won't do it unless he gets this. 

 

 

 

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44 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

So you don't even know if they're Ukrainian?

It's in Lutsk, W. Ukraine, brainiac.

 

45 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

While on the subject of people fleeing the "special military operation", have you been to Phuket lately. Tens/hundreds of thousands of young Russian compatriots of yours.

There're no press gangs rounding up terrified young men and women in Russia to send to the front to die. The thousands of Russians you see in Phuket are those that used to go the Med coast but now with visa issues are everywhere else, Phuket, Samui, Goa, Da Nang, Wonsan-Kalma, ...

20 hours ago, Autocan said:

When I see invective I understand the argument's lost.

 

Zis not true. I am 100% Amerikanski. I am Amerikan batriot.

I'm sensing a third sock puppett smell about this post Tvarisch !

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2 minutes ago, Autocan said:

It's in Lutsk, W. Ukraine, brainiac.

 

There're no press gangs rounding up terrified young men and women in Russia to send to the front to die. The thousands of Russians you see in Phuket are those that used to go the Med coast but now with visa issues are everywhere else, Phuket, Samui, Goa, Da Nang, Wonsan-Kalma, ...

I see. You seem to have intimate knowledge of this. Have you done the rounds yourself?

28 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

I see. You seem to have intimate knowledge of this. Have you done the rounds yourself?

Good Lord. You gotta learn when to quit.

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13 minutes ago, Autocan said:

Good Lord, brainiac. You gotta learn when to quit.

Nah, I'm kinda Ukranian in that sense. I don't quit, even while well ahead.

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15 minutes ago, Autocan said:

Good Lord, brainiac. You gotta learn when to quit.

Susan? Is that you?

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2 hours ago, Autocan said:

It's in Lutsk, W. Ukraine, brainiac.

 

There're no press gangs rounding up terrified young men and women in Russia to send to the front to die. The thousands of Russians you see in Phuket are those that used to go the Med coast but now with visa issues are everywhere else, Phuket, Samui, Goa, Da Nang, Wonsan-Kalma, ...

Putin’s Mobilization Backfires as 370,000 Flee Russia in Two Weeks

Russian President Vladimir Putin's partial mobilization appears to have backfired as more than 370,000 citizens have fled the country since the decree—more than the total number that defense officials said would be called to enlist in the military.

Putin's September 21 declaration sparked nationwide protests and a mass exodus of Russians fleeing across the border to neighboring countries including Georgia, Finland, Kazakstan and Mongolia to avoid being conscripted.

Kazakhstan's interior minister said in a statement on Tuesday that more than 200,000 Russians have come to the neighboring Central Asian country since the decree was announced.

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-mobilization-backfires-russians-flee-kazakhstan-georgia-eu-1748771

 

And that was just for starters.

12 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Putin’s Mobilization Backfires as 370,000 Flee Russia in Two Weeks

Russian President Vladimir Putin's partial mobilization appears to have backfired as more than 370,000 citizens have fled the country since the decree—more than the total number that defense officials said would be called to enlist in the military.

Putin's September 21 declaration sparked nationwide protests and a mass exodus of Russians fleeing across the border to neighboring countries including Georgia, Finland, Kazakstan and Mongolia to avoid being conscripted.

Kazakhstan's interior minister said in a statement on Tuesday that more than 200,000 Russians have come to the neighboring Central Asian country since the decree was announced.

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-mobilization-backfires-russians-flee-kazakhstan-georgia-eu-1748771

 

And that was just for starters.

Alan, ole buddy, I wouldn't cite Newsweek. Or Time or NYT or WaPo or any US-based neocon outlet. That would be like asking a Nazi's view of the Holocaust. 

 

Not that there aren't fair and unbiased observers in the US. But then you would need to take your blinkers off and go find them.

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6 minutes ago, Autocan said:

Alan, ole buddy, I wouldn't cite Newsweek. Or Time or NYT or WaPo or any US-based neocon outlet. That would be like asking a Nazi's view of the Holocaust. 

 

Why not? The Nazis clearly wanted the Jews to succeed!

15 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

 

Why not? The Nazis clearly wanted the Jews to succeed!

 

To pursue the metaphor at risk of being banned for life from AN, the Nazis did indeed want the Jews to succeed in that success means to burn bright.

 

Btw, I gave you a thumbs up. Humor is always welcome.

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