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Why the U.S. Role in Venezuela Isn’t Panama Redux

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The recent U.S. military action in Venezuela — including the capture of President Nicolás Maduro — has drawn comparisons to the 1989 invasion of Panama, but experts say the two episodes are fundamentally different.

On January 3, 2026, U.S. forces entered Venezuela and detained Maduro, flying him to the United States to face drug-related charges. President Trump announced that the U.S. would oversee a transition in Venezuela, suggesting it might “run” the country temporarily.

The 1989 Panama intervention, ordered by President George H.W. Bush, targeted dictator Manuel Noriega. That mission’s outcomes are largely seen as positive: Panama transitioned to democratic rule, its economy grew, and the U.S. quickly withdrew its troops.

Veteran U.S. diplomat John Feeley points out key differences between Panama’s relatively short and structured intervention and the ongoing Venezuela operation. Panama already had a viable political opposition ready to assume power and an existing U.S. military presence nearby, allowing a rapid exit.

In contrast, Venezuela is larger, more populous, and deeply divided. There is no clear successor with widespread domestic support, and opposition leaders such as Nobel Prize winner María Corina Machado lack unified backing at home. Maduro’s vice-president, Delcy Rodríguez, has rejected U.S. claims, calling the intervention a “barbarity.”

While both interventions aimed to depose authoritarian leaders, analysts warn that Venezuela’s economic crisis, oil wealth, and social fragmentation create a far more complex and potentially unstable situation than Panama’s transition.

Key Takeaways

Different Scale, Different Stakes: Venezuela’s size, population, and political fragmentation make U.S. involvement far more complicated than the Panama intervention.

Panama Compared to Venezuela: The 1989 Panama mission saw a swift transfer to democracy; Venezuela currently lacks a universally accepted successor.

Domestic Pushback: Venezuelan officials and citizens are divided, with some rejecting the U.S. presence and others uncertain about the country’s future.

Adapted From

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/04/nx-s1-5665800/u-s-interventions-venezuela-panama

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Yes, very different.

Also, Trump is not interested at all in democracy in Venezuela or anywhere else including the U.S.

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes, very different.

Also, Trump is not interested at all in democracy in Venezuela or anywhere else including the U.S.

To all Trump bashers.

This guy is Venezuelan and supports Trump's actions.

And the majority of Venezuelans support Trump.

He claims that the leadership in Venezuela is essentially a drug cartel and they are destroying the country.

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56 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

To all Trump bashers.

This guy is Venezuelan and supports Trump's actions.

And the majority of Venezuelans support Trump.

He claims that the leadership in Venezuela is essentially a drug cartel and they are destroying the country.

Let's all be grateful that Noriega was removed. Otherwise, Panama might have become a major transshipment route for cocaine.

Panama Sees Record Cocaine Flow Through Ports Bound for Europe

Panama’s President José Raúl Mulino on Tuesday criticized port concession companies in the Caribbean region of the country for the surge in drug trafficking, mainly cocaine, bound for Europe. According to official data, of the 68 tons of drugs seized by Panamanian authorities in the first half of the year, 25 were confiscated in the Caribbean province of Colón—double the amount in the same period of 2024.

“That is unsustainable and does not reflect well on port security,” Mulino said, visibly upset during a public event.

https://ticotimes.net/2025/08/27/panama-sees-record-cocaine-flow-through-ports-bound-for-europe

The article goes on to note that the cocaine is bound for Europe. Just like most of the cocaine transshipped through Venezuela:

Drug boats from Venezuela are mainly moving cocaine to Europe — not fentanyl to the U.S., experts say

President Donald Trump and his Pentagon chief say U.S. military strikes on suspected drug boats in waters off Latin America are saving lives by preventing narcotics from reaching America’s shores.

But drug cartels operating vessels in the Caribbean, where roughly 50% of the airstrikes have taken place, are mainly moving cocaine from South America to Europe — not to the United States, according to current and former U.S. law enforcement and military officials as well as narcotics experts. And the deadliest drug of all, fentanyl, is almost exclusively smuggled over land from Mexico, the officials and experts say.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/drug-boats-venezuela-are-mainly-moving-cocaine-europe-not-fentanyl-us-rcna244583

There are meaningful differences in scale and stakes between the 1989 Panama intervention and the 2026 Venezuela operation, but the core playbook remains the same—and the complications highlighted in the OP don't make U.S. involvement "far more" doomed or uniquely risky.

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2 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

There are meaningful differences in scale and stakes between the 1989 Panama intervention and the 2026 Venezuela operation, but the core playbook remains the same—and the complications highlighted in the OP don't make U.S. involvement "far more" doomed or uniquely risky.

In fact, there are very few meaningful similarities between the 2 situations. Even the most obvious one, the extraction of Maduro is very different from Noriega's. And in a very significant way. Maduro's abduction had to be clandestine because the US had no boots on the ground. Noriega was extracted ("abduction" doesn't really fit the bill as it's commonly used) through a kind of siege by US troops. And that was due to the fact that the US already had thousands of troops stationed in Panama because, under a treaty, they had a right to be there and patrol the Canal Zone. In fact, Panama was the HQ of The U.S. Southern Command which controls US military activity in South America, Central America, and the Caribbean (with the exception of US governed territories).

One similarity I do see is the farcical hope that abducting Maduro will have different consequences for cocaine transshipments than what happened, or, rather, didn't happen, after Noriega's extraction.

Was Panama receiving military arms from Russia also?

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18 minutes ago, 300sd said:

Was Panama receiving military arms from Russia also?

No matter where those arms were coming from, was Venezuela posing a threat to the USA?

10 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

No matter where those arms were coming from, was Venezuela posing a threat to the USA?

A significant portion of Venezuela's oil reserves have not been extracted due to govt seemingly more concerned with running a drug cartel. I think that has a lot to do with it.

We are living in an inter-dependent world. One could make the argument that countries with vast supplies of oil have an ethical responsibility to extract it and sell it at reasonable prices to other countries. Because without oil, we all starve to death.

Since Venezuela has failed to hold up their end of the bargain, the US will step in and sort it out.

The only issue is ... will the life of the average Venezuelan get better or worse?

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5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

A significant portion of Venezuela's oil reserves have not been extracted due to govt seemingly more concerned with running a drug cartel. I think that has a lot to do with it.

We are living in an inter-dependent world. One could make the argument that countries with vast supplies of oil have an ethical responsibility to extract it and sell it at reasonable prices to other countries. Because without oil, we all starve to death.

Since Venezuela has failed to hold up their end of the bargain, the US will step in and sort it out.

The only issue is ... will the life of the average Venezuelan get better or worse?

"One could make the argument that countries with vast supplies of oil have an ethical responsibility to extract it and sell it at reasonable prices to other countries."

The BS the MAGA crow comes up with to defend the criminal in the WH!🤣

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This is, As Carvil says, mainly about the Epstein files. A huge diversion, costly in lives and cash, just to divert from the noise the trickle release of the Epstein files create.

‘It’s All About Epstein! Wake Up!’ James Carville Accusing Trump Of Using Venezuela Strike as a ‘Giant Diversionary Tactic’

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/epstein-wake-james-carville-accusing-134921248.html

"“Come on, people!” Carville said. “Wake up! If you think this is anything remotely legit, or this is in furtherance of some foreign policy aim, or some aim of American interests, come on, please! Please, people! It’s all about Epstein! Wake up! Get the scales off your eyes! … Think beyond just the front of your nose! This is Epstein… health subsidies…This is a giant diversionary tactic.”"

11 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

This is, As Carvil says, mainly about the Epstein files. A huge diversion, costly in lives and cash, just to divert from the noise the trickle release of the Epstein files create.

‘It’s All About Epstein! Wake Up!’ James Carville Accusing Trump Of Using Venezuela Strike as a ‘Giant Diversionary Tactic’

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/epstein-wake-james-carville-accusing-134921248.html

"“Come on, people!” Carville said. “Wake up! If you think this is anything remotely legit, or this is in furtherance of some foreign policy aim, or some aim of American interests, come on, please! Please, people! It’s all about Epstein! Wake up! Get the scales off your eyes! … Think beyond just the front of your nose! This is Epstein… health subsidies…This is a giant diversionary tactic.”"

Huh, never thought about that. Of course it's all about Epstein. Couldn't possibly be about something positive like protecting a nation or anything like that. So I'll just discount this topic I came across. It's all about Epstein "wake up":

https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/aerospace-news/2025/venezuela-turns-to-russia-for-ballistic-missiles-able-to-target-u-s-assets-if-crisis-grows

It's more like Pandora's Box Redux.

15 minutes ago, 300sd said:

Huh, never thought about that. Of course it's all about Epstein. Couldn't possibly be about something positive like protecting a nation or anything like that.

Yeah, because based on all we've seen Trump do and say over the last 10 years that's the most likely reason. His warm and emphatic heart made him do it!🤣

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1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

A significant portion of Venezuela's oil reserves have not been extracted due to govt seemingly more concerned with running a drug cartel. I think that has a lot to do with it.

We are living in an inter-dependent world. One could make the argument that countries with vast supplies of oil have an ethical responsibility to extract it and sell it at reasonable prices to other countries. Because without oil, we all starve to death.

Since Venezuela has failed to hold up their end of the bargain, the US will step in and sort it out.

The only issue is ... will the life of the average Venezuelan get better or worse?

  1. There is no such obligation, even a tacit one. The proof is OPEC. OPEC is a 'legal cartel'. Its aim is officially to regulate production in order to stabilise prices. Practically, it often meant to limit production in order to keep prices high.

  2. One of the main reasons why Venezuela doesn't produce and export more oil (apart from failed management), is US sanctions.

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

A significant portion of Venezuela's oil reserves have not been extracted due to govt seemingly more concerned with running a drug cartel. I think that has a lot to do with it.

We are living in an inter-dependent world. One could make the argument that countries with vast supplies of oil have an ethical responsibility to extract it and sell it at reasonable prices to other countries. Because without oil, we all starve to death.

Since Venezuela has failed to hold up their end of the bargain, the US will step in and sort it out.

The only issue is ... will the life of the average Venezuelan get better or worse?

Well, a significant portion of Venezuela's oil reserves have not been extracted because of sanctions imposed by the USA. Who will step in and sort the USA out.

Anyway, to return to reality, in fact there is an overabundance of petroleum. That's why the cartel OPEC and then OPEC+ was created. To keep prices higher than they would be if there was a free market in place.

3 hours ago, BLMFem said:

This is, As Carvil says, mainly about the Epstein files. A huge diversion, costly in lives and cash, just to divert from the noise the trickle release of the Epstein files create.

‘It’s All About Epstein! Wake Up!’ James Carville Accusing Trump Of Using Venezuela Strike as a ‘Giant Diversionary Tactic’

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/epstein-wake-james-carville-accusing-134921248.html

"“Come on, people!” Carville said. “Wake up! If you think this is anything remotely legit, or this is in furtherance of some foreign policy aim, or some aim of American interests, come on, please! Please, people! It’s all about Epstein! Wake up! Get the scales off your eyes! … Think beyond just the front of your nose! This is Epstein… health subsidies…This is a giant diversionary tactic.”"

This "Epstein diversion" conspiracy peddled by James Carville is pure, unfiltered desperation—a washed-up Democratic hack's fever-swamp rant with zero evidence.

  1. Timing doesn't even line up: The "trickle release" of Epstein files Carville obsesses over? Those documents (mostly old depositions and flight logs) started dropping in late December 2025 and were largely rehashed news by early January 2026.

    Public attention peaked weeks ago—it's yesterday's outrage.

    The Maduro raid happened January 3 because intelligence and operational windows aligned, not because Trump needed a shiny object for a dying story.

  2. Scale and cost make the theory laughable: Planning and executing a high-risk Delta Force raid into a hostile capital—with airstrikes, exfiltration under fire risk, and massive diplomatic fallout—just to distract from some PDF dumps? That's cartoon-villain logic. clap2

    The operation cost lives (reported Venezuelan casualties), billions in prep and follow-on, and global condemnation. If Trump wanted a "diversion," he'd tweet something inflammatory or drop a tariff bomb—not risk American special operators' lives for a sideshow.

  3. Motive is America First, not cover-up:

    The Maduro indictment dates to 2020, the $50M bounty to 2025. Venezuela under Maduro became a state-sponsored narco-hub , sheltering Hezbollah/IRGC, and triggering the worst migration surge in hemisphere history.

    Removing him disrupts that directly—protecting American lives, borders, and security. That's the stated goal, backed by years of policy.

    Epstein? Trump has zero charges, zero flights on the island logs released, and has repeatedly called for full release (something Biden's DOJ slow-walked).

  4. Carville's credibility? Zero:

    This is the same guy who screamed "Russia hoax" for years, predicted Democratic landslides, and now grasps at any conspiracy to explain Trump's wins. He's a partisan dinosaur yelling at clouds—his "wake up!" shtick is projection from someone whose party just got crushed.

If this was "all about Epstein," the "diversion" is the weakest in history—drawing ten times more global attention than the files ever did.

Trump delivered on a long-standing promise to crush a narco-dictator threatening America.

Carville's tin-foil rant is just noise from the losing side—desperate, evidence-free, and already forgotten.

Keep clutching those Epstein PDFs, James; the adults are handling real threats.whistling

18 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

This "Epstein diversion" conspiracy peddled by James Carville is pure, unfiltered desperation—a washed-up Democratic hack's fever-swamp rant with zero evidence.

  1. Timing doesn't even line up: The "trickle release" of Epstein files Carville obsesses over? Those documents (mostly old depositions and flight logs) started dropping in late December 2025 and were largely rehashed news by early January 2026.

    Public attention peaked weeks ago—it's yesterday's outrage.

    The Maduro raid happened January 3 because intelligence and operational windows aligned, not because Trump needed a shiny object for a dying story.

  2. Scale and cost make the theory laughable: Planning and executing a high-risk Delta Force raid into a hostile capital—with airstrikes, exfiltration under fire risk, and massive diplomatic fallout—just to distract from some PDF dumps? That's cartoon-villain logic. clap2

    The operation cost lives (reported Venezuelan casualties), billions in prep and follow-on, and global condemnation. If Trump wanted a "diversion," he'd tweet something inflammatory or drop a tariff bomb—not risk American special operators' lives for a sideshow.

  3. Motive is America First, not cover-up:

    The Maduro indictment dates to 2020, the $50M bounty to 2025. Venezuela under Maduro became a state-sponsored narco-hub , sheltering Hezbollah/IRGC, and triggering the worst migration surge in hemisphere history.

    Removing him disrupts that directly—protecting American lives, borders, and security. That's the stated goal, backed by years of policy.

    Epstein? Trump has zero charges, zero flights on the island logs released, and has repeatedly called for full release (something Biden's DOJ slow-walked).

  4. Carville's credibility? Zero:

    This is the same guy who screamed "Russia hoax" for years, predicted Democratic landslides, and now grasps at any conspiracy to explain Trump's wins. He's a partisan dinosaur yelling at clouds—his "wake up!" shtick is projection from someone whose party just got crushed.

If this was "all about Epstein," the "diversion" is the weakest in history—drawing ten times more global attention than the files ever did.

Trump delivered on a long-standing promise to crush a narco-dictator threatening America.

Carville's tin-foil rant is just noise from the losing side—desperate, evidence-free, and already forgotten.

Keep clutching those Epstein PDFs, James; the adults are handling real threats.whistling

  1. "Scale and cost make the theory laughable: Planning and executing a high-risk Delta Force raid into a hostile capital—with airstrikes, exfiltration under fire risk, and massive diplomatic fallout—just to distract from some PDF dumps? That's cartoon-villain logic. clap2

    The operation cost lives (reported Venezuelan casualties), billions in prep and follow-on, and global condemnation. If Trump wanted a "diversion," he'd tweet something inflammatory or drop a tariff bomb—not risk American special operators' lives for a sideshow."

    Because Trump is a good person?

  2. Motive is America First, not cover-up:

    The Maduro indictment dates to 2020, the $50M bounty to 2025. Venezuela under Maduro became a state-sponsored narco-hub , sheltering Hezbollah/IRGC, and triggering the worst migration surge in hemisphere history.

    Removing him disrupts that directly—protecting American lives, borders, and security. That's the stated goal, backed by years of policy.

    This analysis clearly comes from oppositeworld. If it's of such long standing. what was the urgency to do it now?

    I'm not claiming that this necessarily was a motive for the current situation. Just that your reasoning is badly defective.

1 hour ago, mikeymike100 said:

This "Epstein diversion" conspiracy peddled by James Carville is pure, unfiltered desperation—a washed-up Democratic hack's fever-swamp rant with zero evidence.

  1. Timing doesn't even line up: The "trickle release" of Epstein files Carville obsesses over? Those documents (mostly old depositions and flight logs) started dropping in late December 2025 and were largely rehashed news by early January 2026.

    Public attention peaked weeks ago—it's yesterday's outrage.

    The Maduro raid happened January 3 because intelligence and operational windows aligned, not because Trump needed a shiny object for a dying story.

  2. Scale and cost make the theory laughable: Planning and executing a high-risk Delta Force raid into a hostile capital—with airstrikes, exfiltration under fire risk, and massive diplomatic fallout—just to distract from some PDF dumps? That's cartoon-villain logic. clap2

    The operation cost lives (reported Venezuelan casualties), billions in prep and follow-on, and global condemnation. If Trump wanted a "diversion," he'd tweet something inflammatory or drop a tariff bomb—not risk American special operators' lives for a sideshow.

  3. Motive is America First, not cover-up:

    The Maduro indictment dates to 2020, the $50M bounty to 2025. Venezuela under Maduro became a state-sponsored narco-hub , sheltering Hezbollah/IRGC, and triggering the worst migration surge in hemisphere history.

    Removing him disrupts that directly—protecting American lives, borders, and security. That's the stated goal, backed by years of policy.

    Epstein? Trump has zero charges, zero flights on the island logs released, and has repeatedly called for full release (something Biden's DOJ slow-walked).

  4. Carville's credibility? Zero:

    This is the same guy who screamed "Russia hoax" for years, predicted Democratic landslides, and now grasps at any conspiracy to explain Trump's wins. He's a partisan dinosaur yelling at clouds—his "wake up!" shtick is projection from someone whose party just got crushed.

If this was "all about Epstein," the "diversion" is the weakest in history—drawing ten times more global attention than the files ever did.

Trump delivered on a long-standing promise to crush a narco-dictator threatening America.

Carville's tin-foil rant is just noise from the losing side—desperate, evidence-free, and already forgotten.

Keep clutching those Epstein PDFs, James; the adults are handling real threats.whistling

"If this was "all about Epstein," the "diversion" is the weakest in history—drawing ten times more global attention than the files ever did."

Yes, and that was kind of the point. crazy

"Trump delivered on a long-standing promise to crush a narco-dictator threatening America."

A narco-dictator threatening America?? Very little of what is produced in Venezuela by way of illicit drugs end up in the US. And btw, the convicted criminal in the WH just pardoned someone who was behind the import of 400,000 kg of cocaine.

But keep those lame diversions coming!cheesy

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4 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

"If this was "all about Epstein," the "diversion" is the weakest in history—drawing ten times more global attention than the files ever did."

Yes, and that was kind of the point. crazy

"Trump delivered on a long-standing promise to crush a narco-dictator threatening America."

A narco-dictator threatening America?? Very little of what is produced in Venezuela by way of illicit drugs end up in the US. And btw, the convicted criminal in the WH just pardoned someone who was behind the import of 400,000 kg of cocaine.

But keep those lame diversions coming!cheesy

Kind of similar to the imaginary threats evoked by another GOP administration for invading Irak....

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