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5 years ago they tried to steal an election.

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On 1/11/2026 at 11:05 AM, candide said:

They voted for what he promised.....

We sure did

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  • That is right , 5 years ago Biden stole the election.

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On 1/6/2026 at 2:03 PM, Hanaguma said:

And most importantly, he's your President (assuming you are American).

If Trump is a pedophile like Bill Clinton, where is the evidence of this? If there's evidence in the Clinton-Epstein files why didn't Bidens den of pedophiles expose it and finish Trump off for good? It's no different with all the evidence the "made for production" Jan 6 committee deleted INSTEAD of dumping it on Spec counsel Jack Smiths lap to further take down President Trump. Democrats if not always lying maybe are just too daft to get it sorted, that is to keep the lies from unraveling.

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It's possible Maduro may want to share his knowledge about dominion, smartmatic and how they work with election fraud bringing some clarity to any shenanigans in the 2020 election. I'm certain he's looking to deal something to avoid dying in a super max such as Florence.

18 minutes ago, blaxon said:

If Trump is a pedophile like Bill Clinton, where is the evidence of this? If there's evidence in the Clinton-Epstein files why didn't Bidens den of pedophiles expose it and finish Trump off for good? It's no different with all the evidence the "made for production" Jan 6 committee deleted INSTEAD of dumping it on Spec counsel Jack Smiths lap to further take down President Trump. Democrats if not always lying maybe are just too daft to get it sorted, that is to keep the lies from unraveling.

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Illisdean, of course it's BS, as usual! 🤣🤣🤣

The main archives have been preserved and are currently at the NARA.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/jan/24/donald-trump/donald-trump-goes-too-far-in-claim-that-jan-6-comm

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/10/meme-rehashes-old-false-claim-that-j6-committee-destroyed-evidence

8 minutes ago, blaxon said:

It's possible Maduro may want to share his knowledge about dominion, smartmatic and how they work with election fraud bringing some clarity to any shenanigans in the 2020 election. I'm certain he's looking to deal something to avoid dying in a super max such as Florence.

More BS from you, Ilisdean!

Dominion is not related to Venezuela, it was a Canadian firm! Smartmatic was but has only been used in LA County, a Dem stronghold. So it cannot have changed the 2020 election result. It's a ridiculous MAGA claim for the gullible! 🤣🤣🤣

https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/evidence-links-smartmatic-dominion-venezuelan-government-93dcf7

But don't let real facts get in the way of a good laughable MAGA Big Lie! 😄

On 1/12/2026 at 1:32 AM, Presnock said:

I have to agree totally with just about everything you said. I followed my father's votes but due to being educated about the policies quickly changed from one party to the other and then changed again to independent as neither candidate nor party policy agreed with my thinking. I have been against the politicians from almost as soon as I was old enough to vote and it has only gotten worse as the Superpacs just keep funding both parties' candidates with those that will keep the dollars flowing to the rich and powerful. Of course, I am totally different with my siblings who still vote along the same lines as my mom and dad did. To avoid arguments, we don't don't discuss politics as a rule. I also really agree that social media has ruined the average person it seems and all one has to do is take a quick look at YT videos complaining about everything and talking up the opposite and then the next day those same folks chant the opposite of the previous claims. Yet I hear folks telling me to do this or that from what they saw and I know for a fact some (most I think) are totally false and people just continue to make new videos to make easy money without really having any talent except lying. IMHO anyway. But I am old school, not into smart phones, in my office I was responsible for over 50 computers and learned very little about them as I had admin assistants to keep them running and fixing my mistakes. I spend very little time on the forum, just do a quick check in the AM to see if anyone needs some advice that I might be able to provide but that is less and less nowadays. I retired in Thailand over 20 years ago and still consider it to be paradise.

America and Australia have two main political parties that have shared the power between them for decades. America has Democrats and Republicans, and Australia has Labor and Liberal.

Historically, I don't know how it came to be that politicians can join "a party." It should be banned. I would like to see a whole parliament of independents. Some may argue that nothing would get done because none of them would come to agreement, but that's what the bastards are getting paid for, to thrash out policy that the majority of the country agree with.

This whole two party system and "toe the party line" regime ruins democracy.

15 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

America and Australia have two main political parties that have shared the power between them for decades. America has Democrats and Republicans, and Australia has Labor and Liberal.

Historically, I don't know how it came to be that politicians can join "a party." It should be banned. I would like to see a whole parliament of independents. Some may argue that nothing would get done because none of them would come to agreement, but that's what the bastards are getting paid for, to thrash out policy that the majority of the country agree with.

This whole two party system and "toe the party line" regime ruins democracy.

Actually it worked for many years in the US until the Superpacs decided to fund the campaign chests of both partiy's candidates to insure that policies would be enacted or kept to keep funds going to the rich and powerful IMHO anyway. I see today that the US Congress is going to try again, a bill to prohibit their people/families from the stock markets (insider trading) which they haven't even been able to floor such a bill after passing a watered down on in 2012 I think that from news, most of the members ignore required reporting of wading into that market. Most politicians IMHO, today are suckers of the govt teat, realize they don't have to do a lot of work yet can even with a limited salary (though better than may careers) can get rich somehow - the only way I see is through some kind of corruption. I myself was last registered as an independent because I was tired of voting for the least worse candidates that were running. I have lived and worked around the world and IMHO most politicians are in this same category.

5 hours ago, Presnock said:

Actually it worked for many years in the US until the Superpacs decided to fund the campaign chests of both partiy's candidates to insure that policies would be enacted or kept to keep funds going to the rich and powerful IMHO anyway. I see today that the US Congress is going to try again, a bill to prohibit their people/families from the stock markets (insider trading) which they haven't even been able to floor such a bill after passing a watered down on in 2012 I think that from news, most of the members ignore required reporting of wading into that market. Most politicians IMHO, today are suckers of the govt teat, realize they don't have to do a lot of work yet can even with a limited salary (though better than may careers) can get rich somehow - the only way I see is through some kind of corruption. I myself was last registered as an independent because I was tired of voting for the least worse candidates that were running. I have lived and worked around the world and IMHO most politicians are in this same category.

No argument from me.

Australia currently has an issue with politicians and land developers, particularly when it comes to the zoning of land. The developers lobby government and make "donations" and guess what, the developer either gets the land rezoned so now it is worth ten times more, or gets a government contract to build a government building.

It's dirty money.

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Five years ago they tried to steal an election, and now they're at it again.

2 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Five years ago they tried to steal an election, and now they're at it again.

They are not trying to steal it this time.

Since they failed the last time they just wont have one again!

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On 1/12/2026 at 9:15 PM, blaxon said:

It's possible Maduro may want to share his knowledge about dominion, smartmatic and how they work with election fraud bringing some clarity to any shenanigans in the 2020 election. I'm certain he's looking to deal something to avoid dying in a super max such as Florence.

It's not only possible, it's the primary reason for his capture. They already had his chief of military intelligence (Hugo Carvajal) in custody who previously sang like a canary. They only needed to remove Maduro so he could not pour retribution on Hugo's friends and family still in the country. Venezuela was the international coordinator of the voting software that was used to engineer the election fraud of 2020 that overthrew the legitimate government of the US.

15 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

No argument from me.

Australia currently has an issue with politicians and land developers, particularly when it comes to the zoning of land. The developers lobby government and make "donations" and guess what, the developer either gets the land rezoned so now it is worth ten times more, or gets a government contract to build a government building.

It's dirty money.

But how else are those politicians going to get rich?

9 hours ago, uncletiger said:

It's not only possible, it's the primary reason for his capture. They already had his chief of military intelligence (Hugo Carvajal) in custody who previously sang like a canary. They only needed to remove Maduro so he could not pour retribution on Hugo's friends and family still in the country. Venezuela was the international coordinator of the voting software that was used to engineer the election fraud of 2020 that overthrew the legitimate government of the US.

Complete B.S. as usual! 🤣

Smartmatic was only used in LA County. That claim is simply ridiculous!

On 1/14/2026 at 8:58 AM, Presnock said:

Actually it worked for many years in the US until the Superpacs decided to fund the campaign chests of both partiy's candidates

Superpacs did not exist until the worst decision ever made by the SCOTUS made them possible - Citizens United. Clarence Thomas, the worst Supreme Court Justice ever, helped tip the scales in that 5-4 decision.

On 1/14/2026 at 11:25 PM, Presnock said:

But how else are those politicians going to get rich?

Well, in the past, once they were voted out, guess what, they got a consultancy job with one of the property developers for hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, and I bet they never showed up to the building or did any work.

I believe they have stopped that, and it's something like no job with a company that won a contract for 5 years or similar, but it had been going on for decades.

On 1/7/2026 at 12:11 AM, rattlesnake said:

Here's what The Rationals think of Jake Lang:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2026/01/17/minneapolis-protests-jake-lang-somali/

Just desserts.

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