So all the screeching and spittlefrothing, I have seen no proposals from the ICE haters as to solving the problem of Illegal Alien Criminals in so called "sanctuary" cites and states.

So lets see how you would handle the situation better? What should we do about the illegal alien criminals in our midst? In other words, whats your plan?

Break out the Popcorn, roll a Spliff, and watch civilisation turn into chaos with guns.

12 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Break out the Popcorn, roll a Spliff, and watch civilisation turn into chaos with guns.

Translation: No plan

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Translation: No plan

Sounds like your cult leader

13 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Break out the Popcorn, roll a Spliff, and watch civilisation turn into chaos with guns.

Excellent Plan.

21 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So all the screeching and spittlefrothing, I have seen no proposals from the ICE haters as to solving the problem of Illegal Alien Criminals in so called "sanctuary" cites and states.

So lets see how you would handle the situation better? What should we do about the illegal alien criminals in our midst? In other words, whats your plan?

Do the same thing that law enforcement does to native-born American criminals.

7 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Do the same thing that law enforcement does to native-born American criminals.

Arrest them?

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Arrest them?

If that's what gets done to an American citizen for whatever crime they've committed.

28 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So all the screeching and spittlefrothing, I have seen no proposals from the ICE haters as to solving the problem of Illegal Alien Criminals in so called "sanctuary" cites and states.

It's not a problem in their eyes. These are desperate people seeking a better life and you're an evil white racist for denying them that. Any actions you take to stop them just further prove their point about how evil and racist you are.

So when the illegals break the law and they setup illegal sanctuary cities for them, it's social justice. When you try to lawfully stop them it's fascism.

The lesson here is to stop negotiating with terrorists. All they understand is power and there's no more debate to be had. Go in and crush them is all you can do at this point until they learn the lesson.

3 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

If that's what gets done to an American citizen for whatever crime they've committed.

So all illegal aliens should be arrested and there you have no problem with what ICE is doing. Got it. Thank you for your honesty, at last.

7 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So all the screeching and spittlefrothing, I have seen no proposals from the ICE haters as to solving the problem of Illegal Alien Criminals in so called "sanctuary" cites and states.

So lets see how you would handle the situation better? What should we do about the illegal alien criminals in our midst? In other words, whats your plan?

7 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So lets see how you would handle the situation better?

Your asking the international leftist to handle the situation better?

Your asking people who believe in open borders,no one is illegal.

1 minute ago, NorthernRyland said:

It's not a problem in their eyes. These are desperate people seeking a better life and you're an evil white racist for denying them that. Any actions you take to stop them just further prove their point about how evil and racist you are.

So when the illegals break the law and they setup illegal sanctuary cities for them, it's social justice. When you try to lawfully stop them it's fascism.

The lesson here is to stop negotiating with terrorists. All they understand is power and there's no more debate to be had. Go in and crush them is all you can do at this point until they learn the lesson.

Thank you for exploiting systemic progressivism in a nutshell

Just now, Yagoda said:

So all illegal aliens should be arrested and there you have no problem with what ICE is doing. Got it. Thank you for your honesty, at last.

But whatever crime an American commits isn't going to be illegal entry into the United States.

Oh great, a pearl clutching contest!👏

Here's another question: What should one do with pedophiles and other sex offenders, and those who protect their identities?

Not only do I approve of the enormous expense and brutality of ICE agents, but I also believe that when someone is spotted shoplifting, a SWAT team should be called in to deal with it.

Worth noting the international left would be right in line with the Dem' House of reps.

Google Ai Overview Laken Riley Act.vote in the House of Reps.

Those that voted with the gop only voted this way,cause of politics. .

• House Democrats Voting "Yea": 46.

• House Democrats Voting "Nay": 156.

  The bill, focused on detaining undocumented immigrants charged with theft or other crimes, saw vulnerable Democrats in competitive districts vote with Republicans, shifting the political landscape after the 2024 election

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

Your asking the international leftist to handle the situation better?

Your asking people who believe in open borders,no one is illegal.

Thank you for exploiting systemic progressivism in a nutshell

Now there’s some magical thinking lol 😂 I have never EVER met someone who believes in open borders not a one zero zip nada not a one.Ive met lots of people who are deeply concerned with masked armed men dragging people off the streets into unmarked cars to be disappeared…..seen a lot of that.this roundup of immigrants would be received much better if it was done more professionally and legally.the way it’s being done reminds folks of Russia n Korea nazi Germany and Argentina….oh yea didn’t old Donnie just bail them out and stick us tax payers with the bill and as a bonus wreck our farmers markets???soooo much winning……not.

12 minutes ago, riclag said:

Thank you for exploiting systemic progressivism in a nutshell

🤔 exploiting or explaining?

2 minutes ago, Tug said:

Now there’s some magical thinking lol 😂 I have never EVER met someone who believes in open borders not a one zero zip nada not a one

Oh they're out there, not only liberals, libertarians too.

The thing is they THINK they support open borders but that's only up until the time when they actually have to face the consequences and have the people dumped in their backyard. Remember Marthas Vineyard? THEY have a housing crisis do you understand, simply can't, no way, no how, so they need to send the migrants elsewhere.

I guarantee you if they actually had to house these people and deal with the consequences they'd become far-right extremists within 6 months.

10 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Not only do I approve of the enormous expense and brutality of ICE agents, but I also believe that when someone is spotted shoplifting, a SWAT team should be called in to deal with it.

I'll see your approval and raise you SWATting.

52 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So all the screeching and spittlefrothing, I have seen no proposals from the ICE haters as to solving the problem of Illegal Alien Criminals in so called "sanctuary" cites and states.

So lets see how you would handle the situation better? What should we do about the illegal alien criminals in our midst? In other words, whats your plan?

Is it a problem? If it is, how big a problem is it? How much expense is warranted in dealing with it? Are the methods of enforcement worse than the alleged problem?

And by the way, if it's screeching and spittlefrothing you're looking for, try starting closer to home.

57 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So all the screeching and spittlefrothing, I have seen no proposals from the ICE haters as to solving the problem of Illegal Alien Criminals in so called "sanctuary" cites and states.

So lets see how you would handle the situation better? What should we do about the illegal alien criminals in our midst? In other words, whats your plan?

36 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Do the same thing that law enforcement does to native-born American criminals.

21 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So all illegal aliens should be arrested and there you have no problem with what ICE is doing. Got it. Thank you for your honesty, at last.

Are illegal aliens automatically criminals simply by being in the USA without permission?

Just now, BeastOfBodmin said:

Are illegal aliens automatically criminals simply by being in the USA without permission?

First time, it's misdemeanor. Which is why armed and masked agents, many of them badly trained, are necessary to go after these malefactors with no holds barred.

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

In other words, whats your plan?

They executed their plan when malleable Biden was in office, now their noses are getting rubbed in it.

The selective hypocritical outrage is quite silly and the lack of wherewithal coming out of the left is absurdity astounding. Obama deployed ICE and deported over 5 million illegals during his presidency and Clinton deported over 12 million. Not a single protest, not a single word from the media. Not a single activist. Not a single ICE agent harassed or killed. Not a single judge prohibited the deportations in the court.

Obama facilitated the bombing of Libya, for seven months, with no congressional permission. Not a single word from the media. Not a single word from the activists. Not a single protest held. Not a word from politicians.

Trump deploys ICE to deport people in our country illegally and the left goes in a tirade of weekly protest, judges inhibiting courts, media demonizing ICE and the president, activists leading the harassment of agents and officers, ICE agents threatened, ambushed and killed.

Trump goes into Venezuela in under 3 hours and extracts a monstrous dictator, who had a bounty on his head even under Biden and brings him back to the states to face trial and the leftist Media demonizes the president, mass protests, Trump is a dictator vigils.

Utter lameness, in this point in history the left are making a complete mockery of themselves.

7 minutes ago, BeastOfBodmin said:

Are illegal aliens automatically criminals simply by being in the USA without permission?

yes

5 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

First time, it's misdemeanor. Which is why armed and masked agents, many of them badly trained, are necessary to go after these malefactors with no holds barred.

So ICE is in no danger when effectuating an arrest of an illegal alien? How many are badly trained? How many illegal aliens arrested are felons?

12 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

Oh they're out there, not only liberals, libertarians too.

The thing is they THINK they support open borders but that's only up until the time when they actually have to face the consequences and have the people dumped in their backyard. Remember Marthas Vineyard? THEY have a housing crisis do you understand, simply can't, no way, no how, so they need to send the migrants elsewhere.

I guarantee you if they actually had to house these people and deal with the consequences they'd become far-right extremists within 6 months.

Not just those danerd liberals and libertarians. It's the warm and fuzzy attitude that the un-American vast majority of Americans have towards these immigrants that's really the problem:

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11 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Is it a problem?

Ask the families of Laken Riley and Jocelyn Nungary.

18 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

🤔 exploiting or explaining?

for you :Explaining .

For me : Your explanation exploited their systemic initiates, beautifully.

7 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

First time, it's misdemeanor. Which is why armed and masked agents, many of them badly trained, are necessary to go after these malefactors with no holds barred.

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

yes

Then you both agree on what, to me, seems to be the fundamental point.