3 hours ago, Hummin said:

AI says

Barack Obama's unemployment statistics were not the worst in U.S. history, though they were high on average compared to other modern presidencies due to the Great Recession he inherited.

Context of Obama's Unemployment Stats

Peak Rate: The unemployment rate peaked at 10.0% in October 2009. While high, this was lower than the post-World War II record of 10.8% set under Ronald Reagan in 1982. It was also significantly lower than the 14.7% peak reached during the COVID-19 pandemic under Donald Trump in April 2020.

Total Decline: Obama oversaw a 5.3 percentage point drop in unemployment (from 10.0% to 4.7% by the end of his term). This is cited as one of the largest drops in the unemployment rate of any modern president.

Average Rate: His eight-year average was 7.4%, which is higher than the averages of several other recent presidents, such as George W. Bush (5.2%

He inherited George W Bush , I missed that part

George W. Bush's presidency (2001–2009) began with a 4.2% unemployment rate in January 2001, which rose during two recessions to peak at 7.8% (or higher, reaching 8.3% in early 2009) by the time he left office. While unemployment dipped to 4.7% in 2007, the Great Recession led to massive, long-term unemployment.

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

He inherited George W Bush , I missed that part

George W. Bush's presidency (2001–2009) began with a 4.2% unemployment rate in January 2001, which rose during two recessions to peak at 7.8% (or higher, reaching 8.3% in early 2009) by the time he left office. While unemployment dipped to 4.7% in 2007, the Great Recession led to massive, long-term unemployment.

Gfc was caused by Clinton policies which Bush failed to change.

12 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Gfc was caused by Clinton policies which Bush failed to change.

Well, Bush started a very costly war on terror remember ?

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Well, Bush started a very costly war on terror remember ?

Yeah he was way worse than Trump

4 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Yeah he was way worse than Trump

That is totally imposable!

There is no president of the USA who was ever worse than the idiot Trump!

7 hours ago, nick supreme said:

I couldn't help but notice that you sidestepped any criticism of Obama in the post you referenced. How do you justify Obama authorizing the killing of US citizens without any criminal charges? You’ve presented yourself as a centrist Democrat willing to critique Obama, yet you seem reluctant to engage with those who highlight legitimate concerns regarding his actions. This raises questions about your openness and willingness to consider differing perspectives.

No it doesn't. I've been very open about my years of criticism over Obama policy, and I disagreed with a lot of his foreign policy. That's more than I'm seeing from the vast majority of Republicans these days.

On 1/23/2026 at 11:17 PM, NoDisplayName said:

Obama was the first president to order the drone strike assassination of American citizens without trial.

Yes, he ordered the following person to be killed by drone strike.

Do you think you would have invited Anwar al-Awlaki over for a 4th of July cookout as he was a fellow American?

Anwar al-Awlaki was an American-Yemeni Islamic cleric who was a senior operational leader in al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) and a significant threat to the United States.

Capturing al-Awlaki was not feasible and he posed an "imminent threat".

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu

Just an innocent US citizen living in Yemen and planning attacks on the US?

Hardly innocent. He was an enemy combatant.

2 hours ago, cdemundo said:

Yes, he ordered the following person to be killed by drone strike.

Do you think you would have invited Anwar al-Awlaki over for a 4th of July cookout as he was a fellow American?

Anwar al-Awlaki was an American-Yemeni Islamic cleric who was a senior operational leader in al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) and a significant threat to the United States.

Capturing al-Awlaki was not feasible and he posed an "imminent threat".

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu

Just an innocent US citizen living in Yemen and planning attacks on the US?

Hardly innocent. He was an enemy combatant.

And some of those creeps are so extreme and ridiculous in their behavior, that chances are not even their mothers would miss them after a drone strike.

See ya!

3 hours ago, cdemundo said:

Yes, he ordered the following person to be killed by drone strike.

Do you think you would have invited Anwar al-Awlaki over for a 4th of July cookout as he was a fellow American?

Anwar al-Awlaki was an American-Yemeni Islamic cleric who was a senior operational leader in al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) and a significant threat to the United States.

Capturing al-Awlaki was not feasible and he posed an "imminent threat".

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu

Just an innocent US citizen living in Yemen and planning attacks on the US?

Hardly innocent. He was an enemy combatant.

US citizen.

Executed by drone strike without trial.

"Allegedly" a bad guy.

Government would never li....er, "misspeak."

1 minute ago, NoDisplayName said:

US citizen.

Executed by drone strike without trial.

"Allegedly" a bad guy.

Government would never li....er, "misspeak."

No doubt you would be good buds with Anwar al-Awlaki.

After all, he was a US citizen.

6 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

No doubt you would be good buds with Anwar al-Awlaki.

After all, he was a US citizen.

Straw, meet ad hominem man.

Just now, NoDisplayName said:

Straw, meet man.

Argument had already been presented.

The guy was an Al-Qeada member.

Pointing out your hypocrisy is not a straw man, and you clearly don't know what a straw man argument is because it doesn't apply at all to the exchange.

You are as phony as can be pretending you are concerned about an Al-Qaeda member who was an American citizen.

34 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

US citizen.

Executed by drone strike without trial.

"Allegedly" a bad guy.

Government would never li....er, "misspeak."

I think it's safe to say that all politicians at the national level are thugs, thieves and pigs, but it's just a question of which pigpen they live in, and to what extent is their level of depravity.

By comparison Obama was a man of tremendous dignity, honor, grace and relatively honest. Trump on the other hand has lowered the bar to unfathomable depths.

2 hours ago, cdemundo said:

Argument had already been presented.

The guy was an Al-Qeada member.

Pointing out your hypocrisy is not a straw man, and you clearly don't know what a straw man argument is because it doesn't apply at all to the exchange.

You are as phony as can be pretending you are concerned about an Al-Qaeda member who was an American citizen.

Doesn't matter what group he may have been a member of.

Doesn't matter what he may have been accused of doing.

Doesn't matter what he may have been thinking of doing.

Doesn't matter what he may potentially consider doing in the future perhaps.

He was a US citizen, so constitutional protections apply.

The President is charged with upholding the constitution, not executing his nation's citizens without trial.

1 hour ago, NoDisplayName said:

Doesn't matter what group he may have been a member of.

Doesn't matter what he may have been accused of doing.

Doesn't matter what he may have been thinking of doing.

Doesn't matter what he may potentially consider doing in the future perhaps.

He was a US citizen, so constitutional protections apply.

The President is charged with upholding the constitution, not executing his nation's citizens without trial.

Would it be accurate if I guessed that you did not hold Trump to the same standards? Do you approve of the way he's conducting the ICE raids?

10 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Would it be accurate if I guessed that you did not hold Trump to the same standards? Do you approve of the way he's conducting the ICE raids?

You would guess bigly wrong. You seem to assume everyone must choose one of the teams, that if I believe X is wrong, then Y must be right. I don't play red state/blue state.

.................Oh, and double-tapping shipwreck survivors is a war crime.

5 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

You would guess bigly wrong. You seem to assume everyone must choose one of the teams, that if I believe X is wrong, then Y must be right. I don't play red state/blue state.

.................Oh, and double-tapping shipwreck survivors is a war crime.

Okay I guessed wrong, and I completely agree with you about shipwreck survivors and Trump consistently breaking one law after another.

Total and complete moral bankruptcy comes at a very high cost to our nation.

2 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

Doesn't matter what group he may have been a member of.

Doesn't matter what he may have been accused of doing.

Doesn't matter what he may have been thinking of doing.

Doesn't matter what he may potentially consider doing in the future perhaps.

He was a US citizen, so constitutional protections apply.

The President is charged with upholding the constitution, not executing his nation's citizens without trial.

Although you speak as one having authority you are wrong,

What mattered was decided at the time by a group of professionals, many of whom were attorneys at law and qualified to state what matters.

If you took the time you could easily follow the link I provided and understand how the decisions were made.

Here on AN what was at issue was the feigned outrage that Obama authorized the killing of a US citizen.

The legal questions were decided at the time, they aren't going to be decided here on AN.

The outrage was aimed at Obama for killing a US citizen.

More to the story than being a US citizen.

This wasn't an American like the Smallville Man of the Year, Little League Coach and food bank volunteer; this was a sworn enemy of the US and all those things you said don't matter.... do matter.

24 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

Although you speak as one having authority you are wrong,

What mattered was decided at the time by a group of professionals, many of whom were attorneys at law and qualified to state what matters.

If you took the time you could easily follow the link I provided and understand how the decisions were made.

Here on AN what was at issue was the feigned outrage that Obama authorized the killing of a US citizen.

The legal questions were decided at the time, they aren't going to be decided here on AN.

The outrage was aimed at Obama for killing a US citizen.

More to the story than being a US citizen.

This wasn't an American like the Smallville Man of the Year, Little League Coach and food bank volunteer; this was a sworn enemy of the US and all those things you said don't matter.... do matter.

I would have to agree with your assessment, citizenship is just not an issue when it comes to somebody who's deeply involved in the act of inflicting terror upon the US Nation. That's assuming that there is enough evidence to support that.

The people who served under Obama certainly made mistakes when it came to the drone strikes, same could be said about Trump's boat strikes, and the same could be said about the ICE terror campaigns.

27 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

Although you speak as one having authority you are wrong,

What mattered was decided at the time by a group of professionals, many of whom were attorneys at law and qualified to state what matters.

If you took the time you could easily follow the link I provided and understand how the decisions were made.

Here on AN what was at issue was the feigned outrage that Obama authorized the killing of a US citizen.

The legal questions were decided at the time, they aren't going to be decided here on AN.

The outrage was aimed at Obama for killing a US citizen.

More to the story than being a US citizen.

This wasn't an American like the Smallville Man of the Year, Little League Coach and food bank volunteer; this was a sworn enemy of the US and all those things you said don't matter.... do matter.

This was also decided by a group of "professionals."

They even had a memo from a staff lawyer!

16 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

This was also decided by a group of "professionals."

They even had a memo from a staff lawyer!

Yeah but.

What about?

What"s next?

Not interested in back an forth and back and forth and back and forth while you

change arguments every time.

The posts were trying to gen up outrage at Obama killing a US citizen my point all along has

been that the guy was not a typical US citizen.

He was a sworn enemy of the US.

51 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

Yeah but.

What about?

What"s next?

Not interested in back an forth and back and forth and back and forth while you

change arguments every time.

The posts were trying to gen up outrage at Obama killing a US citizen my point all along has

been that the guy was not a typical US citizen.

He was a sworn enemy of the US.

You brought up the "professionals" made an unconstitutional decision.

He's an enemy, a bad guy, very naughty?

Okay, but he's also a US citizen.

Typical or not, he gets a trial.

Unless the government didn't have enough to convict.........

Obama is looking better every day. Trump's greatest accomplishment is what he didn't do, invade Greenland. It's his greatest achievement and he believes it will win him the Nobel Peace Prize. 😆

Barak Hussein Obama

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2 hours ago, cdemundo said:

Yeah but.

What about?

What"s next?

Not interested in back an forth and back and forth and back and forth while you

change arguments every time.

The posts were trying to gen up outrage at Obama killing a US citizen my point all along has

been that the guy was not a typical US citizen.

He was a sworn enemy of the US.

American citizens under the constitution are allowed due process of law. Period.

15 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

You brought up the "professionals" made an unconstitutional decision.

He's an enemy, a bad guy, very naughty?

Okay, but he's also a US citizen.

Typical or not, he gets a trial.

Unless the government didn't have enough to convict.........

Even as a Centrist Democrat I have long believed that when certain lines are crossed if there's enough evidence, be it forensic, video or otherwise, perhaps a trial is not even required?

After all we all know that if someone's able to throw enough money at a legal team they are always able to create a presumption of a doubt, and if in doubt of that concept just look at OJ Simpson.

I think there are certain lines when stepped over, are essentially a self-revocation of the right to consume oxygen.

15 hours ago, Nurf said:

Barak Hussein Obama

Truth Out - The Tip of the Iceberg

Critical Infrastructure Hoax Exposed: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1951049741950718158

Soros's Russiagate Confession Bombshell: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1951015971508170908

Russiagate Draft Flip: No Impact to Interference: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1946272813016367540

CIA's Border Rig for 2024 Votes: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1805729305475023019

Jan 6 Setup: CIA-Pentagon Wargame Plot: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1834086193820037219

Indict Trump Post-Theft: Dems' Secret Plan: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/2015337537691156685

Blob's Jan 6 Coup Reboot for Trump: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1845719014066028696

BURISMA UKRAINE

Burisma CIA Job Under Obama-Biden VP: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1706729577538572656

@MikeBenzCyber

51 Spies' Laptop Lie Protects Burisma CIA Op: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1800769834575372619

@MikeBenzCyber

Biden's Obama-Era Ukraine Coup Portfolio: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1765838460290584945

@MikeBenzCyber

Obama State Dept's

Ukraine Gas Coup: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1716581111445254601

@MikeBenzCyber

Pentagon & CIA Secured Burisma Investments: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1863773906294935984

CLINTON

Brennan Briefs Obama on Hillary's Russia Plot: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1949319123642507567

@MikeBenzCyber

Hillary's Same-Day Russiagate FBI Trigger: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1950646185938788562

@MikeBenzCyber

Comey's Hillary Server Leak Cover-Up: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1960552492183199997

Just never ends ....

@MikeBenzCyber

Open Borders, Illegal Migrants, GangsObama's Fast & Furious Arms Cartels: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1931939862069813425

USAID Illegal Activities, NED, etcUSAID's Narco Network Backing: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1888404610169131209

NED Hides Govt Covert Ops: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/2014774168881881175

USAID Funds Anti-Trump Ops: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1953945099873775728

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There's no question that Obama and Clinton had their share of scandals, but by comparison they ran the economy well, they didn't make enemies out of our allies, they didn't coddle up to our enemies, and they didn't lie every minute of every day during their entire presidency. In addition they weren't career criminals, and they did have the ability to tell truth at least once in awhile, by comparison with the current toxic circus clown.

2 minutes ago, Dan747 said:

That's quite cute, I would love to see a similar comic with regard to Trump. It is so common these days for conservatives to blame Obama and Clinton for all the ills in the world, without ever once taking aim or being critical of any Trump policies.

That is not what I call objective thinking. Not even close.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

That's quite cute, I would love to see a similar comic with regard to Trump. It is so common these days for conservatives to blame Obama and Clinton for all the ills in the world, without ever once taking aim or being critical of any Trump policies.

That is not what I call objective thinking. Not even close.

This thread is about Obama. I realize the deluded nature of your brain allows Trump to live in your head, but nevertheless the thread is about Obama.

Pure deflection. Obama and Clinton atop many other felonious charges are both guilty of treason. You make it out to sound like they " did some naughty stuff"

Trump is a lot of noise, but most of all you leftists are simply bent because he's scoring successes against your team and tribe. DJT has done nothing I am aware of that comes close to the treason of Obama and Clinton. That's just a fact and we have the evidence.

Clintons gave big FU to the American people and did a no show at their hearing. Subpoenas coming

It is also possibly in the realm of possibilities Obama actually wasn't born in US as well.