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Israelis love war, redux

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55 minutes ago, connda said:

Israel was attacked by the inhabitants of an open-air concentration camp (a city surrounded with a prison-like concrete and metal retaining wall topped with barred wire and covered by a panopticon of watch towers and machine-guns to keep the Palestinian prisoners in place. That concentration camp is called "Gaza."

This shows their determination to attack Israel. Perhaps the people of Palestine could invest the same effort they expend on hatred into building a better society.

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  • unblocktheplanet
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    And that justifies a whole country cheering killing?!? What planet are you on???

  • Lacessit
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    I don't think the Israelis and Americans have thought this through properly. The stated objective is regime change, what happens if the attack brings out even more hard-liners in Iran? IMO they are on

  • beautifulthailand99
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    167 Iranian schoolgirls slaughtered by US/Israeli bombs on the Israeli festival of Purim. Just picture that but a people who have slaughterd far more in Gaza it's a coda, a period, a comma in their bo

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2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

No one claims that though. EXACTLY!

No one has said you are an anti semite .

Isreal a war monger ?

See graph below

LOOKS LIKE ISRAEL WINS EVERY FIGHT

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Israel was attacked by Gaza and Iran , I expect you want Israelis to give love back to Gaza and Iran ?

I'd Probably go with Hamas, Nick. The Iran attack was ineffective. The terrorists were worse. No this has ended up with Israeli citizens hiding underground in ratholes. Is that the kind of country anybody would want to live in?

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

So, why are you so interested in them ?

Why do you focus on Israel and Jews so much ?

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Your graph doesn't show the other side, countries that Israel attacked without provocation.

Thank you. I am not an antisemite nor am I an Islamophobe. If I give up being vegetarian, I'll go for humanitarian. I am anti-American. Yanqui go home!

Why am I so interested in Israel and the Muslim world. I've been friends with a lot of Jews in my life. I'd like to see Israel shine, and I think it can. It has great potential to be an oasis in the Middle East. That won't happen if Israelis keep stealing land. The warmongers are in solid control. The IDF is just evil.

I guess I think the situation in the Middle East is easy to understand because of a millennia of enmity. Nobody with any compassion minimises the Holocaust.

And I don't think there much I can offer Ukraine, though Russia is obviously in the wrong. The Euros are too pussy to really give Ukraine something useful to defeat Russia, like bombing Moscow, the seat of govt, Putin's dachas.

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1 hour ago, Effective altruism said:

This shows their determination to attack Israel. Perhaps the people of Palestine could invest the same effort they expend on hatred into building a better society.

And Israel should also drop the hatred, the paranoia, and stop its pre-emptive attacks, often with the collusion of the US. Peace would make a better society.

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2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You say.................

The Gaza fence photo says

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I'm probably dense, Nick, but what does it say?

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6 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

This was a concentration camp ?

Sure is now, eh. Maybe worse than Gitmo or Holot, because the people know what was there before. Homes full of love, happiness.

On 3/1/2026 at 7:13 AM, unblocktheplanet said:

Israelis are so used to war, they celebrate it, perhaps as an inevitability.

And they are sooo good at it too. True warrior people, perhaps the finest, smartest and toughest ever.

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16 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Its odd a its just anti Israelis who are ones who keep going on about anti semitsm all the time

Why would you insinuate I'm anti-Israel? I have Jewish friends who are dual citizens. However, my friends don't support an apartheid state and are as critical of Israel as I am. Does that make them "anti-Israel" or "anti-Semetic" or both?

I'm not taking this conversation any further than this. You have your pro-Israel, anti-Palestinian viewpoint and I'm not going to change it. Feel free to call me some sort of weak pejorative and then feel smug and superior. Sticks and stones.... I'm done here.

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10 hours ago, Yagoda said:

And they are sooo good at it too. True warrior people, perhaps the finest, smartest and toughest ever.

And that's something to be proud of?!? Wow, are your priorities in a dark place.

Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out...

1 hour ago, connda said:

Why would you insinuate I'm anti-Israel?

Israel is practically an extension of the US.

They are allies, at the very least. But it seems even more inter-twined than most other allies.

Some people even go so far as to say Israel controls many of the US policies ... it's above my pay grade. I dont know who controls what.

19 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I'm probably dense, Nick, but what does it say?

The fence ISNT the way @connda described it .

(But he cannot be Anti Israel, because hes got some Jewish friends)

"Israel was attacked by the inhabitants of an open-air concentration camp (a city surrounded with a prison-like concrete and metal retaining wall topped with barred wire and covered by a panopticon of watch towers and machine-guns to keep the Palestinian prisoners in place. That concentration camp is called "Gaza.""

19 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

And Israel should also drop the hatred, the paranoia, and stop its pre-emptive attacks, often with the collusion of the US. Peace would make a better society.

Your side needs to drop its hatred of Jews and Israel before there can be peace

4 hours ago, connda said:

Why would you insinuate I'm anti-Israel? I have Jewish friends who are dual citizens. However, my friends don't support an apartheid state and are as critical of Israel as I am.

Because you made numerous false derogatory claims about Israel , that is why I suggested you are anti Israel :)

22 hours ago, connda said:

Israel was attacked by the inhabitants of an open-air concentration camp (a city surrounded with a prison-like concrete and metal retaining wall topped with barred wire and covered by a panopticon of watch towers and machine-guns to keep the Palestinian prisoners in place. That concentration camp is called "Gaza."

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Think about that for awhile, and ponder the terms, "Oppression," and "Apartheid." I love it when the victims are framed as "aggressors" and the oppressors frame themselves as the victims. Israel is an Apartheid state just like South Africa was, and just like South African apartheid, it is abhorrent. And I'm tired of Israel's framing themselves as the universal victims.

Is a prison a concentration camp? And what would have to change for Gaza to not be a concentration camp?

On 3/1/2026 at 8:56 PM, Lacessit said:

I don't think the Israelis and Americans have thought this through properly. The stated objective is regime change, what happens if the attack brings out even more hard-liners in Iran? IMO they are only succeeding in uniting the Muslim world against them.

It would take little effort from Iran to shut down the Strait of Hormuz completely. That's 20% of the world's oil supply.

Well your prediction has already come true, and oil prices are rising. So Trump's promise to lower prices is failing on every level.

Don and his minions never think anything through because they simply don't have the vision or intellectual capacity to do so. He himself is a dunce, and his entire administration comes directly from the bottom of the barrel, he literally could not have selected less talent if that's what he was aiming for.

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1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Because you made numerous false derogatory claims about Israel , that is why I suggested you are anti Israel :)

There are so many threads about Israel now, I can't even remember which one I posted this in.

Western countries are hardly saints.

The formation of Israel is brutality by the West (initially British empire), suppression of Palestinian rights, etc ... while Jewish people were also facing anti-semitism in Europe and had to be exiled.

A very young Joe Biden states explicitly in this video that "Israel is an OUTPOST of the US to protect US interests in the Middle East".

So that's why US fights wars for Israel. Israel is part of the US.

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2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The fence ISNT the way @connda described it .

(But he cannot be Anti Israel, because hes got some Jewish friends)

Having Jewish friends, being Jewish, even being Antisemite are no bars against being anti-Israel's govt.

I wonder if Israel's treatment of 'illegal' immigrants guided US policy. Israel also suggests 'self-deportation, or imprisonment in bleak conditions at Saharonim in the Negev or Givon. These replaced a genuine concentration camp, Holot. There's even a specialist police unit just like ICE.

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Saharonim was described as having unfit conditions by the UNHCR.

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Givon Prison was where the Gaza Flotilla activists were held.

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Nothing beats Holot in the Negev. It was so bad it was closed by order of Israel's Supreme Court.

5 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

And that's something to be proud of?!? Wow, are your priorities in a dark place.

Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out...

Oh you don't think that Warriors are worth Pride? Sucks for your little philosophy that the best happened to be Jews huh

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1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Is a prison a concentration camp? And what would have to change for Gaza to not be a concentration camp?

Mostly the answer is yes. What would have to change? Rebuilding of the Gaza destroyed by Israel at Israel's expence. Keeping American corporate development out of Gaza. Open borders so Palestinians can work in Israel.

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Your side needs to drop its hatred of Jews and Israel before there can be peace

Drop mutual hatred. Works both ways.

3 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Rebuilding of the Gaza destroyed by Israel at Israel's expence.

Trump's Board of Peace is not dead.

They had the inaugaral meeting not long ago ---- seems odd that it coincides with Iran attack though --- I can't quite grasp that ....

But US pledges 10 billion dollars for reconstruction of Gaza ,,, plus all members pay 1 billion dollars.

48 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Having Jewish friends, being Jewish, even being Antisemite are no bars against being anti-Israel's govt.

Bad news for Israel critics.

According to this guy, Israel has grandiose plans to expand its borders and become the pre-eminent power in the Middle East.

So that's why they had to take out Iran.

So what is Trump getting out of this? Kickbacks?

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1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Mostly the answer is yes. What would have to change? Rebuilding of the Gaza destroyed by Israel at Israel's expence. Keeping American corporate development out of Gaza. Open borders so Palestinians can work in Israel.

Drop mutual hatred. Works both ways.

What you seem to be saying is that Israel needs to comply with your demands for you to stop calling it a concentration camp .

Palestinians need to stop attacking Israel before they are allowed to visit Israel to work

1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Open borders so Palestinians can work in Israel.

Like , if Germany had allowed Jews to leave Autswitch and go and work in Germany , Autsvitch wouldn't have been a concentration camp ?

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Well your prediction has already come true, and oil prices are rising. So Trump's promise to lower prices is failing on every level.

Don and his minions never think anything through because they simply don't have the vision or intellectual capacity to do so. He himself is a dunce, and his entire administration comes directly from the bottom of the barrel, he literally could not have selected less talent if that's what he was aiming for.

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Wonderful. Symbol of a Christian zealot.

IMO people who have tatts have the same IQ as smokers.

China is most affected by a blockade of oil in the Middle East. It buys most of the Iranian oil.

Is a ban on the export of rare earths to America next? That would cripple the US military industry.

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2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

What you seem to be saying is that Israel needs to comply with your demands for you to stop calling it a concentration camp .

Palestinians need to stop attacking Israel before they are allowed to visit Israel to work

Hamas, Nick, not Palestinians. Yep, Israeli prisons and America's detention camps are concentration camps.

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2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Like , if Germany had allowed Jews to leave Autswitch and go and work in Germany , Autsvitch wouldn't have been a concentration camp ?

Not correlatable. It was the last item on my list. Israel can pay Palestinians to work on the be building Israel will be paying for. They won't need to work in Israel for a good long time/

1 minute ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Hamas, Nick, not Palestinians. Yep, Israeli prisons and America's detention camps are concentration camps.

Hamas are the elected Palestine's Government military wing in Gaza .

1 minute ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Not correlatable. It was the last item on my list. Israel can pay Palestinians to work on the be building Israel will be paying for. They won't need to work in Israel for a good long time/

Isreal has arranged for Indian and Thai workers to work in Israel ,

Palestinins are NOT welcome in Israel anymore

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Wonderful. Symbol of a Christian zealot.

IMO people who have tatts have the same IQ as smokers.

I assume you look down on proud bearers of Sank Yat?

6 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Yep, Israeli prisons and America's detention camps are concentration camps.

So you are equating Buchenwald to an Israeli Prison or an American camp?

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