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Proposed Plans to cut Visa-Free Stay to 30 Days

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The place is washed up anyway, Saturday night Pattaya the old haunts absolutely dead. Restaurants closing at 9pm unbelievable. If you want to stop undesirable, get the coppers off their ars×s. Only reason for this is to squeeze the last Baht.

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  • Even at 30 days, you can still get an extension for 30 more days. Throw in a border run, and you're up to 120 days... How will this stop scammers? It won't. It will not make a shred of difference t

  • Good for "normal" tourists. 30 days is enough. longer stays are still possible, but than people should show how they fund their stay and where they stay. In the Schengen area there is no visa free per

  • Not a wise change. It will effectively kill off the quality winter long stay visitors from Europe, north Asia and UK. The goal is to make longer stays easier for high value short term visitors, not d

15 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Not a wise change. It will effectively kill off the quality winter long stay visitors from Europe, north Asia and UK. The goal is to make longer stays easier for high value short term visitors, not discourage them. If they are concerned, move to the Australian or EU or Japan or South Korean model and have visitors apply for the visa online with a request for 60 or 90 days upfront. No one wants the hassle of asking for an extension in country. This is what will push people to Vietnam.

As others have pointed out, the visa change won't discourage visa abusers. This is a change for the sake of change because they refuse to screen visitors.

Vietnam is 30 days for most, and 45 for certain countries and visa required for US citizens...offers no real benefit if Thailand reduces to 30 days

5 minutes ago, Leopold Bloom said:

Of course, it's more about shekels than criminals, right?

I mean, they know exactly from past numbers roughly how many people will pay 1900 bht for an extension. I suspect that when the 60 day visa was introduced, Immigration's income plummeted because of those lost extensions.

Exactly.
They should just charge at the airport when you arrive,
have a vending machine to buy an extra month or two just before you get to immigration
Then immigration will know exactly how long people do actually plan or want to stay
and they have already collected the fees.

7 minutes ago, Toby1947 said:

The place is washed up anyway, Saturday night Pattaya the old haunts absolutely dead. Restaurants closing at 9pm unbelievable. If you want to stop undesirable, get the coppers off their ars×s. Only reason for this is to squeeze the last Baht.

There was 7 fights involving foreigners in Pattaya last night though...not all washed up yet 😁 😁 😁

On 3/22/2026 at 3:44 AM, Georgealbert said:

Thailand’s Foreign Affairs Ministry is preparing to propose reducing visa-free entry from 60 days to 30 days, aiming to close a loophole exploited by foreign scammers and criminal groups.

They will still come and disappear into the night...

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16 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

No one wants the hassle of asking for an extension in country.

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15 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

Not a wise change. It will effectively kill off the quality winter long stay visitors from Europe, north Asia and UK.

That's true. I used to stay almost 6 months every year. Getting extension on Non-O is too complicated for me now. When my current extension expires I will come for only 30 days or go elsewhere.

54 minutes ago, baansgr said:

Vietnam is 30 days for most, and 45 for certain countries and visa required for US citizens...offers no real benefit if Thailand reduces to 30 days

It is 90 days with a very easy online evisa that is processed in 72 hours or less. Some do not visa and receive 45 days automatic and others do not need visas. A much friendlier visitor model.

New policies from 15th August 2023

  1. Vietnam grants e-visas for citizens of all countries and territories with 90-day stay duration and valid for multiple entry.

  2. Citizens of 13 coutries enjoying unilateral visa exemption can stay in Vietnam up to 45 days.

https://vietnam.travel/plan-your-trip/visa-requirements

Vietnam's new visa policy effective from 15th August 2023 extends stay duration for 13 countries enjoying unilateral visa exemption from 15 days to 45 days, regardless of passport type and entry purpose. The 13 coutries include: Germany, France, Italy, Spain, the UK, Russia, Japan, Republic of Korea, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland and Belarus.

25 countries +Kazakhstan that are exempted from visa requirement:

Brunei, Myanmar, Belarus, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Norway, Russia, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, The UK, The Philippines, Cambodia, Indonesia, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, Chile, Panama

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1 hour ago, baansgr said:

Vietnam is 30 days for most, and 45 for certain countries and visa required for US citizens...offers no real benefit if Thailand reduces to 30 days

Read the visa rules. 90 days for many. It is an evisa and easy to obtain unlike Thailand's mess.

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1 minute ago, Patong2021 said:

Read the visa rules. 90 days for many. It is an evisa and easy to obtain unlike Thailand's mess.

And no ridiculous request for bank statements.

1 hour ago, daejung said:

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That's true. I used to stay almost 6 months every year. Getting extension on Non-O is too complicated for me now. When my current extension expires I will come for only 30 days or go elsewhere.

exactly, why they should just be upfront and simply just charge a fee,
for travellers, a day at immigration, collecting paperwork, filling forms etc
is more hassle than just hopping on a flight to somewhere else

17 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Not a wise change. It will effectively kill off the quality winter long stay visitors from Europe, north Asia and UK. The goal is to make longer stays easier for high value short term visitors, not discourage them. If they are concerned, move to the Australian or EU or Japan or South Korean model and have visitors apply for the visa online with a request for 60 or 90 days upfront. No one wants the hassle of asking for an extension in country. This is what will push people to Vietnam.

As others have pointed out, the visa change won't discourage visa abusers. This is a change for the sake of change because they refuse to screen visitors.

Hi value travellers don't make a decision to visit a country based on whether you need to obtain a visa if they want to visit they will obtain the visa, I am in the same position it's no great hardship these days.

On 9/26/2025 at 12:27 PM, diveasia666 said:

Why didn't I think of that one in my young Phuket days... ? No phone cams in those days...haha

On 1/20/2026 at 7:49 AM, phetphet said:

I hope they catch the evil b*****d.

This is a pain. Applying for a 60 day tourist visa from Australia is still 19 th century as the passport needs to be MAILED to Sydney!! This adds significant postage or courier charges in addition to the extra cost of the visa itself (which is currently free under the terms ofthe visa exempt entry). Then the cost of 30 day extension (1900 thb) comes due after 30 days instead of after 60 days. Either way it costs a lot more. This is nothing more than an ordinary money grab.

18 hours ago, WHansen said:

Put it back to how it was.

Visas are cheap and easy to obtain if you have nothing to hide. I didn't have a problem with spending £30/35 and half hour online to obtain a 60 day SETV.

SETV from the UK is £60. METV is £150

17 hours ago, BusyB said:

Quite.

Someone who's out to abuse their stay in Thailand doesn't give a fruit flies fart whether the guy at the gate stamps them in for 30 days or 60. Once they're through they're off the radar. With no track and trace despite TM30s they can do what the hell they want for how ever long. Until perhaps Inspector Coincidence, a jealous girlfriend or an angry business rival/associate comes along.

Even then there's always the chance of the brown envelope defence.

Very cynical and sadly I have to agree 100% with the content- the bad people will find a way in and once here they will go under the radar unless they do something silly- like get in a drunken fight

17 hours ago, MIke B Bad said:

all those incredibly wealthy Indians and Chinese

Other options:

Thailand Elite Privilege Membership Packages

  • Bronze Membership (5 years)
    Fee: 650,000 THB

  • Gold Membership (5 years)
    Fee: 900,000 THB

  • Platinum Membership (10 years)
    Fee: 1.5M THB

  • Diamond Membership (15 years)
    Fee: 2.5M THB

  • Reserve Membership (20 years)
    Fee: 5M THB (invitation only)

14 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

If only it was that easy. As I wrote, follow the Australian and others format and it isn't a problem. Requiring a recent photo, proof of bank assets etc. is too much of a bother for people who have options and only want to stay 2-3 months. If the immigration department would move into the 21st century and offer electronic processing for the low risk countries, it would be a different. situation.

It is not for the lucrative winter visitors from the European nordic countries and the Japanese and South Korean seniors. This group spends a lot of money and they are mobile.They typically are in Thailand for 60-90 days.

If Thailand is having problems with certain countries in Africa and Europe, then change the visa requirements for those countries.

100 pc agree with you. There really should be a differentiation between low and high risk countries at immigration. That‘s not being racist or whatever, but just taking note of realities! And indeed, loads of people are 30+ genuine visitors, with loads of cash to spend, why put them off? If I‘m a retiree wanting to spend 2 to 3 months in SE Asia, I will look for 30 days in Thailand combined with 45 days in Vietnam and throw a bit of Cambodia, Malaysia and Indonesia in the mix, whereas it would be easier if possible to stay put for 60 days or more in one single country eg Thailand.

45 minutes ago, StevieAus said:

Hi value travellers don't make a decision to visit a country based on whether you need to obtain a visa if they want to visit they will obtain the visa, I am in the same position it's no great hardship these days.

The problem isn't the visa. Rather, it is the process. The problems we see in Pattaya, Patong and elsewhere will continue, because Thailand is not verifying the visitors it allows in. There is little information sharing with Thailand for valid reasons.

Many countries now have ETA and/or visa requirements. However, they are easily and efficiently managed online. The Thai process is cumbersome and inconsistent. The change in period of stay is a knee jerk reaction to show that the government is doing something. Erect obstacles and barriers and people who are clean will go elsewhere. The criminals will still go to Thailand, because they cannot go elsewhere as many other countries are sharing information in real time.

19 hours ago, WHansen said:

Put it back to how it was.

Visas are cheap and easy to obtain if you have nothing to hide. I didn't have a problem with spending £30/35 and half hour online to obtain a 60 day SETV.

The only problem with the Thai e-visa, unlike the Cambodian and Vietnamese ones, is that it requires hotel bookings and an onward flight booking. The Cambodian one takes 5 minutes, the Vietnamese 15 min, and absolutely no documents and paperwork other than your passport are required.

I always love the replies to the 30-60 days waiver debte. Sme of the people who comment on the subject have never been on a border run in their life and don't know what they're talking about, and just go by what the thai government and immigration say. as if they always tell the truth. Some people on here have been gaslighted by the government and immigration😁 Probably the same people who believe everything a bar girl will tell them. highly sophisticated criminal gangs/networks aren't going on border runs. the idea is absurd and laughable. But the authorities are too lazy to actually try and stop these gangs because it would involve actual work and use stopping the 60 day waiver as proof they're doing something about it.

On 3/22/2026 at 10:05 AM, redwood1 said:

Even at 30 days, you can still get an extension for 30 more days. Throw in a border run, and you're up to 120 days...

How will this stop scammers?

It won't.

It will not make a shred of difference to go from 60 days to 30 days....

All it is for is to get more money for extensions of stay.

All the " This is a good idea"bunch are the same lot who got their noses out of joint when this was introduced . "I had to put 800 k in the bank ,[or I have to put 65K in the bank every month ]and now these people are getting in without that"😆

I thought the Iran situation would have put that proposed idea on the back burner. As they're saying there has been a decline in tourists because of it. Less flights, tourists waiting to see what happens with the situation, etc. So, logic would say delay the cut to 30 days while the Iran situation is going on and leave it at 60 days for the time being. But then i remembered the word logic and thais never should never appear in the same sentence.

People saying on here can still get another 30 day extension is wrong. part of the policy will be that you'll only get 7 days extension and only once(in actual fact i think that is already in play). and depending on the immigration office some even reject 7 days.

1 hour ago, Srikcir said:

Other options:

Thailand Elite Privilege Membership Packages

  • Bronze Membership (5 years)
    Fee: 650,000 THB

  • Gold Membership (5 years)
    Fee: 900,000 THB

  • Platinum Membership (10 years)
    Fee: 1.5M THB

  • Diamond Membership (15 years)
    Fee: 2.5M THB

  • Reserve Membership (20 years)
    Fee: 5M THB (invitation only)

I'm not a mathematician but surely buying 2 x 10 year Platinum Memberships (2 x 1.5m = 3m) is cheaper than 1 x 20 year Reserve Membership @ 5m?

No need to wait for an invitation too.

4 x Bronze works out even cheaper, and for the same 20 years (4x 650k = 2.6m).

Have they messed up or am I missing something?

And of course, criminals would never think to go this route would they....

Reduce Visa length time. Sounds effective as Thai Tourist numbers seriously drop even before Trump's global turmoil & air travel impacts.seriously hit. tourism. Veitnam economically improves based on different approaches. Thailand faces serious debt issues for many people & its economy is challenged. But yes let's reduce visa length & make things harder for longer stays.

4 hours ago, Leopold Bloom said:

Of course, it's more about shekels than criminals, right?

I mean, they know exactly from past numbers roughly how many people will pay 1900 bht for an extension. I suspect that when the 60 day visa was introduced, Immigration's income plummeted because of those lost extensions.

Agree. It's a number's game, and a money's game. I think, if only temporary, this is a way to make foreigners leave another 1900 baht for the immigration, and it might also in the short run, make the tourism numbers go up, since it will have to be more border crossings for those who want to stay as long as they did before.

In the long run, it might hit the tourism though, but they dont think too far ahead, do they.

4 hours ago, Leopold Bloom said:

Of course, it's more about shekels than criminals, right?

I mean, they know exactly from past numbers roughly how many people will pay 1900 bht for an extension. I suspect that when the 60 day visa was introduced, Immigration's income plummeted because of those lost extensions.

4 hours ago, Leopold Bloom said:

Of course, it's more about shekels than criminals, right?

I mean, they know exactly from past numbers roughly how many people will pay 1900 bht for an extension. I suspect that when the 60 day visa was introduced, Immigration's income plummeted because of those lost extensions.

4 hours ago, Leopold Bloom said:

Of course, it's more about shekels than criminals, right?

I mean, they know exactly from past numbers roughly how many people will pay 1900 bht for an extension. I suspect that when the 60 day visa was introduced, Immigration's income plummeted because of those lost extensions.

If you can't afford the visa then how are you gonna sustain yourself if you were granted the extention ?? There has been too may cases lately where foreigners have run out of money and end up in the streets begging or stealing or not paying their bar bill. This should stop a lot of that.

2 hours ago, patman30 said:

exactly, why they should just be upfront and simply just charge a fee,
for travellers, a day at immigration, collecting paperwork, filling forms etc
is more hassle than just hopping on a flight to somewhere else

That's why for my next travel to Thaïland I will stay no more than 90 days and not about 100 days as the validity of my current extension would allow me. And next only 30 days

Nowadays, since I'm not currently teaching in Myanmar, I base myself in Siem Reap. $300 buys me an annual multi-entry retirement visa, with no funds in the bank needed. I can come and go as I wish, with no re-entry stamp required and no 90-day reporting. 10 days ago I popped over to Myanmar, flying via Bangkok Don Muang and Suvanabhumi. No IO issues to enter Thailand for a day or so to allow me to transit between airports.

The Midfle East situation by the way is not about wait a few weeks and see. Read the FT last week end and all top experts believe this is biggest upset since 1970s for oil and gas. Air tickets will rise exceeded high & already companies are cutting like BA flights to Asia via the Gulf. not now but into May, June etc. Prices are doubling to BKK or are being held back. And of course we are not even talking about all those tourists who will face high prices at home this year before they consider taking off on long haul flights.

On 3/21/2026 at 11:05 PM, ikke1959 said:

Good for "normal" tourists. 30 days is enough. longer stays are still possible, but than people should show how they fund their stay and where they stay. In the Schengen area there is no visa free period and also in the US. And Vietnam is only 45 days too

You sound harsh. Vietnam is a longer visa stay. People, young like gap year students, or mid lifers having a break or older travels may have more open plans and want to stay longer. Today ppl working on line can be anywhere. Why are you being so inflexible in your approach. This is not Europe or Trumps USA, its Thailand facing serious economic issues & highly dependent on tourists, travellers & new types of independent workers like Dubai or Portugal or Costa Rica. Thailand is at its best when its is flexible, open & progressive not restricted.

5 hours ago, Toby1947 said:

The place is washed up anyway, Saturday night Pattaya the old haunts absolutely dead. Restaurants closing at 9pm unbelievable. If you want to stop undesirable, get the coppers off their ars×s. Only reason for this is to squeeze the last Baht.

Thailand is not Pattaya. Millions come here without going there. But it does indicate like Hua Hin there is a fall off of travellers but I expect BKK or ChangMai or Koh Sumui are still busy. The strong baht has not helped. Reducing Visa time in a new age of different types of travel, working, flexibility is so critical for an economy like Thailand and it should not put up more barriers. Look how Dubai took off. I know less about Portugal or Costa Rica but I bet their increased popularity for Europeans & others is based on a welcoming visa attitude for long stayers not a restrictive bureaucratic one.

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