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Trump Threatens to “Unleash Hell” if Iran Rejects Deal

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1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

They are negotiating a peace deal, so a pause on aggression does make sense.

Did the Iranian government or what is left of it confirm that actual negotiation is ongoing? Lot of mixed messages.

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1 minute ago, sqwakvfr said:

Did the Iranian government or what is left of it confirm that actual negotiation is ongoing? Lot of mixed messages.

You need better news source, instead of fake news.

Indirect negotiations are underway. I can't post link, or copy & past the info, as not allowed without a link from approved source, which I don't get my news or info from.

I suggest you google this, or just take my word for it ... "Indirect talks between the US and Iran are being mediated by Pakistan, Türkiye, and Egypt, the foreign ministers of the three countries have confirmed, stating they have been passing messages between Washington and Tehran.

Egypt’s Ishaq Dar dismissed the “unnecessary speculation” in the media regarding the peace talks and said that negotiations “are taking place” through intermediaries and that Washington’s 15-point proposal was delivered to Tehran in exactly this manner.

Iranian media have also reported that Iran has already formally replied to the US proposal and is currently awaiting a response. Although Tehran has not released any official statements regarding Washington’s plan, Iranian officials have reportedly dismissed it, demanding concessions from the US" ...

AI is not up to date, or compromised, but if google text above, the 2nd linked article points out reality. Obviously 2 powers fighting want to resolve the situation, to report nothing is being done, is simply fake news ... IMHO

Should send the Enola Gay and do the world a favor and the end of airport security.

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

This incredibly evil and pathetic man has already Unleashed hell on the Iranian people and for what?

PM me. I will give you a free 1 way ticket to Iran. Enjoy.

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49 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

You need better news source, instead of fake news.

Indirect negotiations are underway. I can't post link, or copy & past the info, as not allowed without a link from approved source, which I don't get my news or info from.

I suggest you google this, or just take my word for it ... "Indirect talks between the US and Iran are being mediated by Pakistan, Türkiye, and Egypt, the foreign ministers of the three countries have confirmed, stating they have been passing messages between Washington and Tehran.

Egypt’s Ishaq Dar dismissed the “unnecessary speculation” in the media regarding the peace talks and said that negotiations “are taking place” through intermediaries and that Washington’s 15-point proposal was delivered to Tehran in exactly this manner.

Iranian media have also reported that Iran has already formally replied to the US proposal and is currently awaiting a response. Although Tehran has not released any official statements regarding Washington’s plan, Iranian officials have reportedly dismissed it, demanding concessions from the US" ...

AI is not up to date, or compromised, but if google text above, the 2nd linked article points out reality. Obviously 2 powers fighting want to resolve the situation, to report nothing is being done, is simply fake news ... IMHO

Maybe you should get better at Googling, or not just search for what you want to hear.

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/live-blog/live-updates-iran-war-talks-trump-peace-plan-troops-hormuz-rcna265051

Iran says it has no plans for negotiations with the U.S.

President Trump said this week his administration was engaged in productive discussions with Tehran, but regime officials countered that account.

https://investinglive.com/news/iran-officially-responded-to-trumps-peace-plan-no-deal-20260326/

Iran officially responded to Trump's peace plan: No deal

Here is a post from Tansim, translated:

  • An informed source told Tasnim News Agency that Iran’s response to the 15-point proposal from the United States was formally delivered last night via intermediaries, and Iran is awaiting the other side’s reply.

  • According to this source, Iran stated in its response that acts of aggression and assassination by the enemy must end; objective conditions must be created to ensure the war will not be repeated; compensation and war reparations must be guaranteed and clearly defined; and the end of the war across all fronts—including all resistance groups involved in the conflict throughout the region—must be implemented.

  • The source added that Iran’s assertion of sovereignty over the Strait of Hormuz is its natural and legal right and must be recognized, along with guarantees that the other side’s commitments will be implemented. These conditions are in addition to the demands Iran presented during the second round of negotiations in Geneva (a few days before the U.S. and Israeli attack in the month of Esfand).

  • The source also emphasized that, for Iran, it is clear that the U.S. claim of negotiations is merely a “third deception project,” and that the Americans are pursuing several goals under the cover of negotiations:

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6 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

Maybe you should get better at Googling, or not just search for what you want to hear.

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/live-blog/live-updates-iran-war-talks-trump-peace-plan-troops-hormuz-rcna265051

Iran says it has no plans for negotiations with the U.S.

President Trump said this week his administration was engaged in productive discussions with Tehran, but regime officials countered that account.

https://investinglive.com/news/iran-officially-responded-to-trumps-peace-plan-no-deal-20260326/

Iran officially responded to Trump's peace plan: No deal

Here is a post from Tansim, translated:

  • An informed source told Tasnim News Agency that Iran’s response to the 15-point proposal from the United States was formally delivered last night via intermediaries, and Iran is awaiting the other side’s reply.

  • According to this source, Iran stated in its response that acts of aggression and assassination by the enemy must end; objective conditions must be created to ensure the war will not be repeated; compensation and war reparations must be guaranteed and clearly defined; and the end of the war across all fronts—including all resistance groups involved in the conflict throughout the region—must be implemented.

  • The source added that Iran’s assertion of sovereignty over the Strait of Hormuz is its natural and legal right and must be recognized, along with guarantees that the other side’s commitments will be implemented. These conditions are in addition to the demands Iran presented during the second round of negotiations in Geneva (a few days before the U.S. and Israeli attack in the month of Esfand).

  • The source also emphasized that, for Iran, it is clear that the U.S. claim of negotiations is merely a “third deception project,” and that the Americans are pursuing several goals under the cover of negotiations:

Well, you're welcome to believe & post your fake news ... IMHO

But I'll stick with news source that actually tell the truth, with named sources, and falls in line with common sense thinking.

Seeing as anything that comes out of Trumps mouth is either a complete fabrication a gross exaggeration or simply a downright lie I tend to agree with the Iranian version.

I think what is happening is that Washington is asking countries that have friendly or at least are on talking terms with Tehran to pass on messages to which Tehrans response is most likely fk you. Hardly what I would call negotiations.

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

You need better news source, instead of fake news.

Indirect negotiations are underway. I can't post link, or copy & past the info, as not allowed without a link from approved source, which I don't get my news or info from.

I suggest you google this, or just take my word for it ... "Indirect talks between the US and Iran are being mediated by Pakistan, Türkiye, and Egypt, the foreign ministers of the three countries have confirmed, stating they have been passing messages between Washington and Tehran.

Egypt’s Ishaq Dar dismissed the “unnecessary speculation” in the media regarding the peace talks and said that negotiations “are taking place” through intermediaries and that Washington’s 15-point proposal was delivered to Tehran in exactly this manner.

Iranian media have also reported that Iran has already formally replied to the US proposal and is currently awaiting a response. Although Tehran has not released any official statements regarding Washington’s plan, Iranian officials have reportedly dismissed it, demanding concessions from the US" ...

AI is not up to date, or compromised, but if google text above, the 2nd linked article points out reality. Obviously 2 powers fighting want to resolve the situation, to report nothing is being done, is simply fake news ... IMHO

What excatly is "indirect negotiation"? is it sening text messages to each other? I might need better news sources but after bombing a country for a month how about face to face meeting to end it or just keep bombing. I am a combat veteran and not some woke liberal. I knew people who did not come home from their last combat deployments in 2006 and 2010. So far US casualties have been low but I do not believe it is worth the risk to send a MEU or a Combat Brigade into Iran. What would that accomplish? After Epic Fury do we transition into Operation Iranian Freedom?

"we will be welcomed as liberators', Donald Rumselfd 2002 before Operation Iraqi Freedom.

2 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

What excatly is "indirect negotiation"? is it sening text messages to each other? I might need better news sources but after bombing a country for a month how about face to face meeting to end it or just keep bombing. I am a combat veteran and not some woke liberal. I knew people who did not come home from their last combat deployments in 2006 and 2010. So far US casualties have been low but I do not believe it is worth the risk to send a MEU or a Combat Brigade into Iran. What would that accomplish? After Epic Fury do we transition into Operation Iranian Freedom?

"we will be welcomed as liberators', Donald Rumselfd 2002 before Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Google will answer that for you. I'm not doing the repetitive reply thingy with you, as I can repeat myself over & over and try to explain things to you, but I can't help you understand it.

What I posted is self explanatory, that you don't understand it, is a mystery.

You have a nice day.

32 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Google will answer that for you. I'm not doing the repetitive reply thingy with you, as I can repeat myself over & over and try to explain things to you, but I can't help you understand it.

What I posted is self explanatory, that you don't understand it, is a mystery.

You have a nice day.

1) Never asked for your "help" 2) Google is only reliable as "garbage in, garbage out" 3) I am having a nice day 4) What is the end game for Iran ?

1 minute ago, sqwakvfr said:

1) Never asked for your "help" 2) Google is only reliable as "garbage in, garbage out" 3) I am having a nice day 4) What is the end game for Iran ?

Again with the silly questions. Ask an Iranian citizen, if wanting to know what they think, instead of what the Iranian govt wants

I know one, and he'd like the USA & Israel to succeed, and rid the country of the present govt.

As much as they didn't like the Shah, he was better than what they have now.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1384451-hundreds-feared-dead-as-iran-forces-fire-on-protesters/#findComment-20325669

22 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Again with the silly questions. Ask an Iranian citizen, if wanting to know what they think, instead of what the Iranian govt wants

I know one, and he'd like the USA & Israel to succeed, and rid the country of the present govt.

As much as they didn't like the Shah, he was better than what they have now.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1384451-hundreds-feared-dead-as-iran-forces-fire-on-protesters/#findComment-20325669

Then define Sucess in terms of the attacks on Iran? Because the US is not at war with Iran. POTUS has said "Iran must surrender". How can they surrender if this is not a war? This seems to be a catch 22? What comes after the present Iraninan government is terminated? The CIA seems to be a gigantic waste of money. Do they have any human assets inside of Iran? SIGNIT is not difficlut because it is technology based. But HUMINT is very difficult This is because agents and assets must be recruited, cultivated and maintained inside of hostile and enemy nations. Are the vast majority of Iranian people willing to defy their government and be willing to die to have a democratic nation?

2 hours ago, koolkarl said:

PM me. I will give you a free 1 way ticket to Iran. Enjoy.

I do have some friends that will come right out and say the man is a butthead, he's an idiot, and he's an absolute clown, but I like his policies. Those are the Republicans I admire.

It's an interesting point that you bring up, and one that a lot of Republicans just don't understand these days. During the 20 years that Clinton, Obama and Biden were in office I was continually critical of their policies. Just look back at some of my posts when Obama and Biden were in power. I was not a big fan of Obama for many of the years that he was president and my posts reflect that. As a centrist democrat I criticized a lot of his policies.

I see so little of that coming from Republicans these days, to point where their absolute fealty is actually quite frightening. Most just can't handle critique of Trump, they immediately clam up, get defensive and start making it personal. Instead of behaving like rational intellectuals and debating policy they just start throwing out nonsense, accusations that I've never criticized my own party, or that I get paid to be critical of Trump. That is not only ridiculous, it is inane. I wish somebody would offer to pay me to criticize Trump. I would spend my whole day doing it.

Criticism and open mindedness is what independent thinkers engage in, and it sets them apart from dogmatic subjects of a wannabe king. I invite you to reflect on that for just a moment.

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19 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

Then define Sucess in terms of the attacks on Iran? Because the US is not at war with Iran. POTUS has said "Iran must surrender". How can they surrender if this is not a war? This seems to be a catch 22? What comes after the present Iraninan government is terminated? The CIA seems to be a gigantic waste of money. Do they have any human assets inside of Iran? SIGNIT is not difficlut because it is technology based. But HUMINT is very difficult This is because agents and assets must be recruited, cultivated and maintained inside of hostile and enemy nations. Are the vast majority of Iranian people willing to defy their government and be willing to die to have a democratic nation?

You're asking questions I can't answer. How am I suppose to know if they have assets in IR.

My idea of success would be what I already stated, complete change of govt. Start from there. That is one of the goals Trump suggested. The rest is above my pay grade, along with, I simply don't care, I'm not Iranian, and wish we (USA military) were never there, in the M.E. ... EVER.

If USA govt didn't learn their lesson in 1967 (USS Liberty), oh well, nuff said.

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Well, you're welcome to believe & post your fake news ... IMHO

But I'll stick with news source that actually tell the truth, with named sources, and falls in line with common sense thinking.

Even if you feel you cannot attribute a quote to your sources the least you can do is list who/examples of what these sources are!

1 minute ago, scottiejohn said:

Even if you feel you cannot attribute a quote to your sources the least you can do is list who/examples of what these sources are!

I've been told I'm not allowed to. If you do as I suggest, it will show you the source. I don't need to do it for you, in a PM, do I ???

So you didn't Google do what I suggested ??? Wouldn't that be easier, than posting again, and asking for what I already stated I couldn't do.

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

I've been told I'm not allowed to. If you do as I suggest, it will show you the source. I don't need to do it for you, in a PM, do I ???

So you didn't Google do what I suggested ??? Wouldn't that be easier, than posting again, and asking for what I already stated I couldn't do.

What a load of hogwash!

As I said earlier I accept you may not be allowed to make an actual quote from a banned source but there is no rule on AN, to my knowledge, that says you cannot list what sources you prefer to use.

A list such as this is totally allowable and I am NOT suggesting that these are your sources;

Culture and Life

International Affairs

Moscow News

The New Times

Oeuvres et opinions

Femmes de nous jours

Sputnik - not allowed in GDR and Cuba during glasnost.

China Pictorial

China Reconstructs

Peking Review

People's China

China's Sports

Women in China

Evergreen

9 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Almost right until the part whereby 168 schoolchildren were killed.

Pales into insignifance compared to the thirty thousand or so Iranian protesters murded on the streets.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

I do have some friends that will come right out and say the man is a butthead, he's an idiot, and he's an absolute clown, but I like his policies. Those are the Republicans I admire.

It's an interesting point that you bring up, and one that a lot of Republicans just don't understand these days. During the 20 years that Clinton, Obama and Biden were in office I was continually critical of their policies. Just look back at some of my posts when Obama and Biden were in power. I was not a big fan of Obama for many of the years that he was president and my posts reflect that. As a centrist democrat I criticized a lot of his policies.

I see so little of that coming from Republicans these days, to point where their absolute fealty is actually quite frightening. Most just can't handle critique of Trump, they immediately clam up, get defensive and start making it personal. Instead of behaving like rational intellectuals and debating policy they just start throwing out nonsense, accusations that I've never criticized my own party, or that I get paid to be critical of Trump. That is not only ridiculous, it is inane. I wish somebody would offer to pay me to criticize Trump. I would spend my whole day doing it.

Criticism and open mindedness is what independent thinkers engage in, and it sets them apart from dogmatic subjects of a wannabe king. I invite you to reflect on that for just a moment.

Nobody cares what you think personally. The issue is much bigger than that.

42 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

What a load of hogwash!

As I said earlier I accept you may not be allowed to make an actual quote from a banned source but there is no rule on AN, to my knowledge, that says you cannot list what sources you prefer to use.

A list such as this is totally allowable and I am NOT suggesting that these are your sources;

Culture and Life

International Affairs

Moscow News

The New Times

Oeuvres et opinions

Femmes de nous jours

Sputnik - not allowed in GDR and Cuba during glasnost.

China Pictorial

China Reconstructs

Peking Review

People's China

China's Sports

Women in China

Evergreen

Wow what an unbiased list!

Femmes de nous jours, what??

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Again with the silly questions. Ask an Iranian citizen, if wanting to know what they think, instead of what the Iranian govt wants

I know one, and he'd like the USA & Israel to succeed, and rid the country of the present govt.

As much as they didn't like the Shah, he was better than what they have now.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1384451-hundreds-feared-dead-as-iran-forces-fire-on-protesters/#findComment-20325669

1 person out of Iran total population of 93 million

I wonder how many of the 93 million people want the present govt regardless of how bad they are to be replaced with a Trump or Netanyahu pupppet

If there was such an entity as a regime change fairy I can't think of a single country where someone wouldn't apply to the regime change fairy requesting a change of govt

1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

What a load of hogwash!

As I said earlier I accept you may not be allowed to make an actual quote from a banned source

They are banned for a good reason as far as I know, and that is because they aren't credible. Are you surprised that the poster you are replying to, and actually all MAGA's on this forum, get their info from such sources, and are then laughed out of the door?

1 minute ago, CallumWK said:

They are banned for a good reason as far as I know, and that is because they aren't credible. Are you surprised that the poster you are replying to, and actually all MAGA's on this forum, get their info from such sources, and are then laughed out of the door?

What "such sources"?

You all quote "such sources" but what are they?

I agree that quotes from certain "sources"" may not be accepted by AN but there is nothing wrong with a poster saying that they get their general info from such and such sources such as RU, Al Jazeera etc. At least then we know where they stand!

5 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Well, you're welcome to believe & post your fake news ... IMHO

But I'll stick with news source that actually tell the truth, with named sources, and falls in line with common sense thinking.

And that would be Fox and Truth

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9 hours ago, KhunLA said:

They are negotiating a peace deal, so a pause on aggression does make sense.

Fact is that the Ayatollah stated previously that they didn't want nuclear weapons. So Trump claiming that they've agreed to not have a nuclear weapon is just fodder for his gullible followers.

1 minute ago, IsmeUno said:
9 hours ago, KhunLA said:

They are negotiating a peace deal, so a pause on aggression does make sense.

Fact is that the Ayatollah stated previously that they didn't want nuclear weapons. So Trump claiming that they've agreed to not have a nuclear weapon is just fodder for his gullible followers.

Fact is that Trump is negotiating with a mirror in his bathroom

3 hours ago, emptypockets said:

Nobody cares what you think personally. The issue is much bigger than that.

More deflection. I wouldn't have expected any less.

59 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Fact is that the Ayatollah stated previously that they didn't want nuclear weapons. So Trump claiming that they've agreed to not have a nuclear weapon is just fodder for his gullible followers.

There is much evidence that the Ayatollah did not support the nuclear weapons program, and that his son who is far more of a hardliner does support the program. Another omelet on Don's face.

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