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West Bank: Name the terrorists

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Just now, unblocktheplanet said:

Israel has occupied Southern Lebanon for 18 years. Did it change anything? So why would anyone think this occupation will change anything?

Israel occupied Southern Lebanon from 1982 to 2000 fighting the PLO.

That occupation ended 26 years ago

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    Just few words for you, 7th of october 2023, where 1,195 men, women and children were raped, tortured, slathered, burned, killed and taken hostages, among them mothers with few months old babies, NO

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    You create these divisions through your one-sided excesses. It is your unwavering community solidarity that isolates you. This was legitimate after the Holocaust, but the Gaza genocide erased everyth

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    Those deadly stones again. Bullets for children! Reservist settler = IDF.

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26 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

What an astonishingly ignorant comment. How do you think the IDF should have rooted out the Hamas terrorists, when they were hiding behind, and beneath, the civilian population in a network of over 500 kilometres of tunnels (funded by overseas aid meant for building schools and hospitals)

Hiding military command centres under hospitals, schools and nurseries, and attacking the IDF from behind the skirts of mothers and their children, with the assistance of the UN agency UNRWA, who were also hiding hostages on behalf of Hamas; given your  breathtaking lack of knowledge about the complexities of the war in Gaza, I can only assume that you have a far more sinister reason for such appallingly ill informed comments ….

Okay. On to Hamas. Of course, Israel had a duty to attack Hamas in Palestine after Oct 7 but not every last Palestinian which is what happened.

I hear lots repeated about these 'command centres' in hospitals and schools aso. And maybe so. It would have taken the cooperation of the people running those institutions. Is that why doctors and medics were targeted?

How much hard evidence is there for the discovery of these 'command centres' other than announcements by the IDF? Any news items, photos? I honestly have not seen them but, again, I don't devoted myself to this conflict full-time.

Tunnels? Absolutely. I've seen photos. Are you telling me the 'best army in the world' could not search & destroy them???

I don't have, as you say, a 'selective memory', just my brain is pretty full and I'm old. Is reminding me, say, about the pagers too much to ask?

So you want to accuse the UN and UNRWA of collusion with Hamas. And why? What would be their motivation? Again, I want hard evidence not fairytales.

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Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

Israel occupied Southern Lebanon from 1982 to 2000 fighting the PLO.

That occupation ended 26 years ago

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

Israel occupied Southern Lebanon from 1982 to 2000 fighting the PLO.

That occupation ended 26 years ago

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

Israel occupied Southern Lebanon from 1982 to 2000 fighting the PLO.

That occupation ended 26 years ago

And did it change anything? Or breed more terrorists? Didn't work the first time, so let's try it again!

Just now, unblocktheplanet said:

And did it change anything? Or breed more terrorists? Didn't work the first time, so let's try it again!

Well yes it did work , where are the PLO now ?

Non existent .

Although Hezbollah took their place .

Israel needs to annex the land and keep all terrorists off the land

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

Well yes it did work , where are the PLO now ?

Non existent .

Although Hezbollah took their place .

Israel needs to annex the land and keep all terrorists off the land

Or defund Iran...

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Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

Well yes it did work , where are the PLO now ?

Non existent .

Although Hezbollah took their place .

Israel needs to annex the land and keep all terrorists off the land

Yep. Eretz Israel. Steal a bit of everybody's countries, the Middle East will be a paradise.

Just now, unblocktheplanet said:

Yep. Eretz Israel. Steal a bit of everybody's countries, the Middle East will be a paradise.

Everybody's?

Your extremist bias leads you to untruths.

Paradise?

No paradise anywhere.

On 5/5/2026 at 1:48 AM, unblocktheplanet said:

Because daily atrocities are occurring there

Not just there.

Atrocities just off the coast of Crete now too.

They're spreading again....

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Just now, ezzra said:

Well, ask any palestinian/Hezbollah, whether hamas or not, young or old, they all want to die for Allah as ''shahids'' (martyrs) that what they teach them from the day they were born, when an Israeli soldier die in battle, the whole country morne, israel can kill hundreds of thousands of them and it wouldn't matter to them as they were taught that their life doesn't matter and only Allah and it's teaching matters, and this is why the war and the loss of lives are mounting from day to day, and until they will come to realise that live does matter, I'm afraid that this will not end.

Ask any Israeli child, virtually from birth, too, what their duties are. (To their religion? To their country?) Aside from a few conscientious objectors, the answer you'll hear is join the IDF and protect the homeland. Only difference may be the benefits of those 72 virgins.

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Just now, PingRoundTheWorld said:

Obviously you know nothing about Israel. Only the southern part of the country is desert, and it was almost completely unoccupied prior to settlers coming in. The central and northern parts were mostly swampland and mountains. The swamps were mostly unoccupied and abandoned and dangerous due to malaria. It was the settlers who drained the swamps and planted water-hungry eucalyptus trees and made the lands habitable. Arab landowners were more than happy to sell off those unusable lands, and only later on when they were transformed into usable land (at great cost and effort of the settlers) decided the deal was "unfair".

The bottom line is: large parts of Israel were bought fair and square, other parts were won in wars where Israel had to defend itself against (often far greater) Arab forces attacking it. Some of these lands they kept due to strategic necessity and preventation of future threats (like the Golan heights), some they gave back to the Arabs (west bank), and some they kept and let the local Arabs remain (Israel has a significant Arab population which has full rights, can vote, and can be voted into office). Arab Israelis are part of normal life and have a range of positions starting from housemaids to construction to taxi drivers to bank staffs to doctors and even MPs.

Having said all that: today's settlers are not the same as the original settlers. The original settlers were secular or nonorthodox and driven to create a home for a persecuted people. Today's settlers in the west bank - and in particular the ones behind atrocious unprovoked attacks on local Arab population - are vile animals who are driven by nothing but racism and false sense of superiority. Most normal Israelis do not agree or support their actions. Another one of the many reasons the upcoming elections will be vital to restore sanity in Israeli government.

I'm all for 'fair & square' and was certainly aware that most of the very early land acquisition was honest. There were conflicts then but the early settlers were civilised not brutes.

However, expanding one's territory by wars, nah, that ain't honest business. That's cheating, no matter the goals of the 'emeny of the day'.

Now we get to 'strategic importance', 'national security' and all the other excuses all govts give for subjecting both citizens and outsiders to heinous acts.

You mention Israel's generosity in 'giving back' some 'Arab' lands, e.g., the West Bank. Except Israel had designs on occupying and colonising the West Bank all along. And "they let the local Arabs remain"--WTF, dude!

Regarding the vile animals (thank you) among the West Bank colonisers, it doesn't matter if Israelis care about their outrages or not. The govt has encouraged them to occupy the West Bank. Even though, according to partition, the West Bank is not Israel's to inhabit.

I believe Emma Goldman: "If voting could change anything, it would be illegal." It's not a question of changing Israel's govt. It's a question of changing the mindset of an embedded culture of violence. And a huge percentage of Israelis agree with this violence.

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I'm going to bring us back to point here. No one had admitted to believing killing schoolchildren and bulldozing schools is a good thing.

And yet, and yet, many continue to defend the occupation of the West Bank (perhaps with the goal of rooting out 'terrorists').

What troubles me greatly is that ordinary human beings (of any race, any religion) could behave with such brutality. And what amazes me is that Israel's govt, in the form of police, border police, undercover police, IDF and IDF reservists, allows it to happen.

What does that say to me? That it's all about racism and land.

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5 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

What's "winning"? More dead bodies? Mostly on 'their' side. Both sides are motivated by both hatred and fear, for reasons I can't get close to understanding.

Well, ask any palestinian/Hezbollah, whether hamas or not, young or old, they all want to die for Allah as ''shahids'' (martyrs) that what they teach them from the day they were born, when an Israeli soldier die in battle, the whole country morne, israel can kill hundreds of thousands of them and it wouldn't matter to them as they were taught that their life doesn't matter and only Allah and it's teaching matters, and this is why the war and the loss of lives are mounting from day to day, and until they will come to realise that live does matter, I'm afraid that this will not end.

As noted above, most Zionists are the terrorists.

The Likud Party (Prime Minister Bibi's Party) is a reincarnation of the Herut Party, which was a reincarnation of the Irgun, a Zionist paramilitary organisation responsible for terrorist actions in Palestine from 1931 to 1948 against the people of Palestine and British combatants and non-combatants, including women and children.

Zionists are also very influential in Washington DC and US politics.

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On 5/4/2026 at 2:22 AM, unblocktheplanet said:

No doubt the Arabs taught these first settlers how to live in such an inhospitable desert.

Obviously you know nothing about Israel. Only the southern part of the country is desert, and it was almost completely unoccupied prior to settlers coming in. The central and northern parts were mostly swampland and mountains. The swamps were mostly unoccupied and abandoned and dangerous due to malaria. It was the settlers who drained the swamps and planted water-hungry eucalyptus trees and made the lands habitable. Arab landowners were more than happy to sell off those unusable lands, and only later on when they were transformed into usable land (at great cost and effort of the settlers) decided the deal was "unfair".

The bottom line is: large parts of Israel were bought fair and square, other parts were won in wars where Israel had to defend itself against (often far greater) Arab forces attacking it. Some of these lands they kept due to strategic necessity and preventation of future threats (like the Golan heights), some they gave back to the Arabs (west bank), and some they kept and let the local Arabs remain (Israel has a significant Arab population which has full rights, can vote, and can be voted into office). Arab Israelis are part of normal life and have a range of positions starting from housemaids to construction to taxi drivers to bank staffs to doctors and even MPs.

Having said all that: today's settlers are not the same as the original settlers. The original settlers were secular or nonorthodox and driven to create a home for a persecuted people. Today's settlers in the west bank - and in particular the ones behind atrocious unprovoked attacks on local Arab population - are vile animals who are driven by nothing but racism and false sense of superiority. Most normal Israelis do not agree or support their actions. Another one of the many reasons the upcoming elections will be vital to restore sanity in Israeli government.

Just now, ezzra said:

Well, ask any palestinian/Hezbollah, whether hamas or not, young or old, they all want to die for Allah as ''shahids'' (martyrs) that what they teach them from the day they were born, when an Israeli soldier die in battle, the whole country morne, israel can kill hundreds of thousands of them and it wouldn't matter to them as they were taught that their life doesn't matter and only Allah and it's teaching matters, and this is why the war and the loss of lives are mounting from day to day, and until they will come to realise that live does matter, I'm afraid that this will not end.

So that's why Israel is on the way to getting rid of them all.

59 minutes ago, PingRoundTheWorld said:

Having said all that: today's settlers are not the same as the original settlers. The original settlers were secular or nonorthodox and driven to create a home for a persecuted people.

Theodor Herzl, the father of political Zionists, believed the Arabs would accept Zionist settlers because of their ability to reclaim marginal land for agriculture and the advanced farming techniques the Zionists used. This would increase the value of land owned by Arabs and create jobs for landless peasants.

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And what happened, Ev.? This is the way Israelis should be living.

The Zionist political movement was based in philosophy: 1) a homeland 2) with no Arabs. I don't recall if Herzl himself espoused getting rid of Arabs but, once there were Jewish terrorists, HaShoMer, Haganah aso, racism reared its ugly head.

I see Israel had so much potential and squandered it all in pursuit of violence.

On 5/6/2026 at 8:24 PM, stevenl said:

So that's why Israel is on the way to getting rid of them all.

Pretty much yes, when you have an enemy who's sworn on wiping out and eliminating your people

no matter what arrangement you have with them to co-exist, so yes, as it says in the Jewish bible: he who

comes to kill you, get up earlier and kill him first.

On 5/6/2026 at 6:25 PM, unblocktheplanet said:

And what happened, Ev.? This is the way Israelis should be living.

The Zionist political movement was based in philosophy: 1) a homeland 2) with no Arabs. I don't recall if Herzl himself espoused getting rid of Arabs but, once there were Jewish terrorists, HaShoMer, Haganah aso, racism reared its ugly head.

I see Israel had so much potential and squandered it all in pursuit of violence.

Not in pursuit of violence.

In pursuit of survival.

I agree Israel could be even greater and peace would have been better though it takes two to tango, but it's a big demonization lie to suggest that the tiny nation of Israel hasn't accomplished a lot in many fields of human endeavor.

Looking forward to Eurovision.

Tucker suggesting that genetic testing would prove who are the true descendants of Abraham and thus have a right to live in Israel according to some Israelis.

It looks like Netanyahu would seriously fail the test.

Genetic testing would once and for all settle the question

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