59 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

didnt watch it.

does he mention Israel is the poorest country in the OECD?

with all the money needed to be spent on war, there is a shortage of doctors.

ultra-orthodox schools don't teach basic math or english.

Too much focus on dog training?

7 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

And even if there is some truth to it, it doesn't justify aggression against Palestinians.

They still use the Holocaust to justify their actions. But the Palestinians didn't cause the Holocaust.

The aggression against the Palestinians is because of the Oct 7 th terror attack , nothing to do with the Holocaust .

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Of course you didn't watch it.

I just watched the first snippet of that.

By your own narrator's admission (and it's likely an AI narrator, by the way), the Romans hated the Jews because the Jews were ... arrogant. LOL.

9 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I just watched the first snippet of that.

By your own narrator's admission (and it's likely an AI narrator, by the way), the Romans hated the Jews because the Jews were ... arrogant. LOL.

Being deplorable suits you.

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Being deplorable suits you.

All you have is hate

16 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The aggression against the Palestinians is because of the Oct 7 th terror attack , nothing to do with the Holocaust .

Israeli aggression against Palestinians predates October 7.

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Israeli aggression against Palestinians predates October 7.

As does Palestinian aggression against Israelis, yes?

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

As does Palestinian aggression against Israelis, yes?

I believe the Palestinians weren’t very happy about having their land stolen

5 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

I believe the Palestinians weren’t very happy about having their land stolen

Whose land did your ancestors steal, or are you under the belief that human nature has evolved since then?

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

I believe the Palestinians weren’t very happy about having their land stolen

I believe the Israelis weren't very happy about Palestinians attempting to eradicate them for the last seventy-five years or so.

Do the Jews that were expelled from the Arab states have any right to return?

The right to return or compensation is an interesting one.

I think the Palestinians claim is clearly a stronger one as it can be traced to specific named individuals and at no point since has the claim lapsed.

You can’t just say “a group I identify with lived here hundreds of generations ago” and expect to take it from its owner. I guess if you can prove none of those hundreds of generations lapsed the claim, you might have a case. Good luck with that. Good luck proving ancestral lineage for that matter. Even then, that is per individual. A racial or ethnic group is not a person under the law and therefore has no legal rights.

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Israeli aggression against Palestinians predates October 7.

As does Palestinians aggression against Israel predates October 7

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

As does Palestinians aggression against Israel predates October 7

David Ben Gurion when founding Israel:

I just watched this.

We may be oversimplifying the situation. It's not just between Israelis and Palestinians.

Other Arab countries have their greasy paws in this mess, sometimes it seems with their own agendas.

Here, it says Jordan was gifted the West Bank for its loyalty to Britain and The Zionists.

But other Arab countries are playing into this and making matters more complex.

Situation is way more complex than I thought, to be honest.

I stand firmly against what I view as the racist and inhumane policies of the Israeli government, and I oppose Zionism as a political ideology. Does that make me anti-Semitic when I hold no hatred whatsoever toward Jewish people or Judaism, and in fact have many Jewish friends who share my opposition to the policies of the Israeli government and Zionism?

There must be a clear distinction between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism. Criticising a government or a political ideology is not the same as hatred toward an ethnic or religious group. Too often, pro-Israel activists and lobbying groups deliberately conflate the two to silence criticism. Increasingly, people are no longer accepting that conflation.

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I just watched this.

We may be oversimplifying the situation. It's not just between Israelis and Palestinians.

Other Arab countries have their greasy paws in this mess, sometimes it seems with their own agendas.

Here, it says Jordan was gifted the West Bank for its loyalty to Britain and The Zionists.

But other Arab countries are playing into this and making matters more complex.

Situation is way more complex than I thought, to be honest.

Dont watch TRT , Iranian news or Al Jazzera if would want a balanced and honest info on the subject .

Find a different non biased source

"Britain never gifted Jordan the West Bank. Jordan captured the territory during the 1948 Arab-Israeli War and formally annexed it in 1950. This annexation was the result of a military land grab and a local political conference, not a direct British gift."

2 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

I stand firmly against what I view as the racist and inhumane policies of the Israeli government, and I oppose Zionism as a political ideology. Does that make me anti-Semitic when I hold no hatred whatsoever toward Jewish people or Judaism, and in fact have many Jewish friends who share my opposition to the policies of the Israeli government and Zionism?

There must be a clear distinction between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism. Criticising a government or a political ideology is not the same as hatred toward an ethnic or religious group. Too often, pro-Israel activists and lobbying groups deliberately conflate the two to silence criticism. Increasingly, people are no longer accepting that conflation.

Do you accept Israel's right to exist or do you support the annihilation of Israel ?

12 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

The right to return or compensation is an interesting one.

I think the Palestinians claim is clearly a stronger one as it can be traced to specific named individuals and at no point since has the claim lapsed.

You can’t just say “a group I identify with lived here hundreds of generations ago” and expect to take it from its owner. I guess if you can prove none of those hundreds of generations lapsed the claim, you might have a case. Good luck with that. Good luck proving ancestral lineage for that matter. Even then, that is per individual. A racial or ethnic group is not a person under the law and therefore has no legal rights.

The Israelis that were expelled from Arab states moved on.

The ten million ethnic Germans expelled from Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, and Romania between 1944 and 1950, moved on.

The millions of Poles and Ukrainians expelled from their homelands in the 1940s moved on.

The 700K Palestinians that fled or were expelled from their homes as a result of them attempted to eradicate Israel, are still moaning, shaking keys and being treated as victims,

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

"Britain never gifted Jordan the West Bank.

I didn't check the source.

But the main point is several Arab nations ganged up Israel, so Israel is literally afraid of being gang-banged and annihilated.

There is no similar dynamic anywhere else in the world where one country can potentially be invaded by several hostile countries.

It's not just between Israel and Palestinians. They are factoring in potential attacks by all the other Arab nations when they make decisions.

11 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I didn't check the source.

But the main point is several Arab nations ganged up Israel, so Israel is literally afraid of being gang-banged and annihilated.

There is no similar dynamic anywhere else in the world where one country can potentially be invaded by several hostile countries.

It's not just between Israel and Palestinians. They are factoring in potential attacks by all the other Arab nations when they make decisions.

Havent you seen the news recently?

Hamas, Hezbollah , Houthis and Iran were all sending missiles into Israel .

Israel was fighting a 4 against 1 war

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

avent you seen the news recently?

no

just snippets here and there

I have ADD

just watched israeli drones targeting palestinian children

31 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Do you accept Israel's right to exist or do you support the annihilation of Israel ?

This guy makes an analogy regarding land rights.

Let's say you own land in the US.

But the US govt collapses.

Then Chinese people come in and want to take advantage of the power vacuum to take your land.

There is no formal govt body to protect and guarantee your land.

So would you just hand it over to the Chinese or fight to keep it?

14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Israel was fighting a 4 against 1 war

Just wait until all that juicy funding they need to survive dries up.

Off to the JAO in Russia as the new Jew homeland.

Brrrrrrrr. 🙂

6 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

This guy makes an analogy regarding land rights.

Let's say you own land in the US.

But the US govt collapses.

Then Chinese people come in and want to take advantage of the power vacuum to take your land.

There is no formal govt body to protect and guarantee your land.

So would you just hand it over to the Chinese or fight to keep it?

We aren't talking about USA or China though .

Türkiye ruled the land for 400 years , then the Ottoman empire fell and the UK were left ruling the land for 20 years .

The UK left the land and the land was divided up between Istael and Palestine .

Isrel accepted the offer and formed their own Country and the Palsedtians refused the offer and so they didn't form a country

15 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

no

just snippets here and there

I have ADD

just watched israeli drones targeting palestinian children

Honestly, could your side just stop going on about children all the time ?

Trying to discuss a war between Israel and Palestine and they just want to talk about children all the time .

Its Hamas properganda that children were targeted .

I know what you will reply with and I wont bother to reply to the point you are going to make

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Its Hamas properganda that children were targeted .

could be.

but I recall an interviewer asking about murdering children and the israeli responded they will grow up to become adults.

but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now.

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

could be.

but I recall an interviewer asking about murdering children and the israeli responded they will grow up to become adults.

but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now.

Yes, ONE person my well have said that .

One person saying something isn't indictive of a Countries policy .

15 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Palsedtians refused the offer and so they didn't form a country

Because they comprised 70 per cent of the population, but the proposed partition only gave them 40 per cent of the land.

In retrospect, maybe they should have just accepted a less than fair offer than go through all this hell.

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Honestly, could your side just stop going on about children all the time ?

Trying to discuss a war between Israel and Palestine and they just want to talk about children all the time .

Its Hamas properganda that children were targeted .

I know what you will reply with and I wont bother to reply to the point you are going to make

So you don't want anymore discussion on Israeli infants killed on the 7th Oct 2023?

FYI, At least 36 children, including babies, were killed during the Hamas-led attacks in southern Israel on October 7, 2023. According to the National Insurance Institute of Israel, civilian casualty data identified five victims aged 0 to 5 among those murdered, three of whom were under the age of three.

2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

So you don't want anymore discussion on Israeli infants killed on the 7th Oct 2023?

FYI, At least 36 children, including babies, were killed during the Hamas-led attacks in southern Israel on October 7, 2023. According to the National Insurance Institute of Israel, civilian casualty data identified five victims aged 0 to 5 among those murdered, three of whom were under the age of three.

Really Jeff ?

There was a Hamas led attack on Israel on 7 th Oct and 36 children were killed ?

Thanks for letting me know .

Was this in the news.........................I seemed to have missed it 😔