4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Where is your evidence that the actions of the police lead to their death of the killer’s victim?

It's no surprise that you would be an apologist for the police in such a situation, Higgot.

Based on your posts here you'd probably do the same.

10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

How comes you don't know your history ?

Over 300,000 Sikh soldiers volunteered for the British Indian Army during World War II

The total casualty rate for the Sikh community during both World Wars was staggering, with approximately 83,000 turbaned Sikh soldiers killed and over 100,000 wounded.

Did the murderer fight in WW2?

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

It's no surprise that you would be an apologist for the police in such a situation, Higgot.

Based on your posts here you'd probably do the same.

Asking you to provide evidence to substantiate claims you make is not being an apologist for anyone.

Let’s have your evidence for the claims you make that mitigate the killer’s culpability for the death of his victim.

2 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Absolutely, what makes this worse, if that is possible, is "White cop kills Black man" (George Floyd) triggered global months-long outrage, protests, riots, policy changes ("defund the police"), corporate virtue-signaling, and endless media coverage.

"White cops involved in the death of a white boy" (Henry Nowak, 18) — where he was stabbed by a minority perpetrator who lied about a racist attack, and police handcuffed the dying teen while he repeatedly said "I can't breathe" — has received comparatively minimal sustained outrage or national reckoning, especially from mainstream institutions and left-leaning outlets.

Why am I not shocked!

There's just ever so slight a difference between a man being killed by a police officer by kneeling on his neck for nine and a half minutes while he was handcuffed, face down, subdued, and almost begging for his life, with the same police officer refusing to allow medical attention to be rendered. And this case in which police made a mistake in difficult circumstances then realised their error within a minute or so. There was no deliberate killing by the police here.

Can you genuinely not understand the difference? Or are you just another one to jump on anything to sow division?

It was a terrible tragedy, and the killer is now going to spend his life behind bars.

47 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Now here you are acting as an apologist for the shocking police behaviour that lead to the death of an innocent young man. Disgusting.

It was reported that it was a fatal stabbing and even immediate assistance from the Police wouldn't have saved Nowak .

Nowak would have died even if the Police had assisted him immediately

38 minutes ago, baansgr said:

So the perpetrator made this a racially aggrivated crime by his own words.

No, he committed the crime first.

Then made the racism statements.

18 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Listen to the 999 call the sikhs brother told the opperator he clearly calls it a racist incident.

I know

26 minutes ago, Taboo2 said:

The only people who deserve blame for this is the citizens of the UK, who continues to ignore what their ancestors fought for to keep their island free and safe. No one else. The cops were too afraid to help their own race and did not want to upset people who have not shed blood for the UK in prior wars.

Quite a number of Sikhs fought and died for the freedom and safety of the UK.

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

It was reported that it was a fatal stabbing and even immediate assistance from the Police wouldn't have saved Nowak .

Nowak would have died even if the Police had assisted him immediately

How low can you go!!!!!!!

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The Police made a mistake in this instance .

The race card was played by the Sikhs and the Police were duped

If it was a one off, its a mistake, but its not! The race card gets played all the time and it seems to work?

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Asking you to provide evidence to substantiate claims you make is not being an apologist for anyone.

Let’s have your evidence for the claims you make that mitigate the killer’s culpability for the death of his victim.

Watch the body Cam footage Chomper fully then make your judgement. No links are needed its there on body cam footage. The police were trying to haul him up in a sitting posistion you can hear the officers and see them trying to pull him up as the poor lad was bleeding out.

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Did the murderer fight in WW2?

I haven't see it reported anywhere .

1 minute ago, josephbloggs said:

There's just ever so slight a difference between a man being killed by a police officer by kneeling on his neck for nine and a half minutes while he was handcuffed, face down, subdued, and almost begging for his life, with the same police officer refusing to allow medical attention to be rendered. And this case in which police made a mistake in difficult circumstances then realised their error within a minute or so. There was no deliberate killing by the police here.

Can you genuinely not understand the difference? Or are you just another one to jump on anything to sow division?

It was a terrible tragedy, and the killer is now going to spend his life behind bars.

Exactly but conflating completely different situations is the go-to position of many a commentator here (especially the likes of Mr. Bandit) in a desperate attempt to make these things more than they really are.

Taking in time context, all of the actions of the UK police in ths situation are completely understandable but that's not going to be enough for those that think the UK has far too many brown people anyway and for some bizarre and completely untrue reason these same people are more protected by the police, the CPS, the courts and judges.

But as the saying goes, never let the truth get in the way of a good story/false narrative.

Edited June 2Jun 2 by johnnybangkok

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Quite a number of Sikhs fought and died for the freedom and safety of the UK.

No they didn't, they fought for india...in fact there were more sikhs in the waffen ss than there were fighting for Britain

7 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

There's just ever so slight a difference between a man being killed by a police officer by kneeling on his neck for nine and a half minutes while he was handcuffed, face down, subdued, and almost begging for his life, with the same police officer refusing to allow medical attention to be rendered. And this case in which police made a mistake in difficult circumstances then realised their error within a minute or so. There was no deliberate killing by the police here.

Can you genuinely not understand the difference? Or are you just another one to jump on anything to sow division?

It was a terrible tragedy, and the killer is now going to spend his life behind bars.

Obviously you are totally missing the point of the post, on purpose, of course!

1 minute ago, baansgr said:

No they didn't, they fought for india...in fact there were more sikhs in the waffen ss than there were fighting for Britain

Really.........................Historical records show the exact opposite. During World War II, roughly 100,000 Sikhs fought for Britain in the British Indian Army, with over 83,000 losing their lives. In contrast, only around 3,000 Indians served in the Waffen-SS (the Indian Legion), of which Sikhs were a small fraction

1 minute ago, BarraMarra said:

Watch the body Cam footage Chomper fully then make your judgement. No links are needed its there on body cam footage. The police were trying to haul him up in a sitting posistion you can hear the officers and see them trying to pull him up as the poor lad was bleeding out.

I’ll tell you what I’ll do.

I’ll wait for the outcome of the inquiry into the police officers actions.

In the meantime, the accusation that the police actions played a part in the death of the victim is offering up a mitigation for the culpability of the convicted killer.

The killer has been convicted.

The police actions are being investigated.

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Really.........................Historical records show the exact opposite. During World War II, roughly 100,000 Sikhs fought for Britain in the British Indian Army, with over 83,000 losing their lives. In contrast, only around 3,000 Indians served in the Waffen-SS (the Indian Legion), of which Sikhs were a small fraction

Yes fighting for India...how many were at D-Day landings???

2 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

Obviously you are totally missing the point of the post, on purpose, of course!

Eh? Tell me what point of the post I was responding to did I miss. He liked in it to George Floyd which is a ridiculous comparison and I explained why.

It is you who has completely missed the point.

59 minutes ago, impulse said:

Except, it's a recurring theme. And just about every time they "make a mistake" it seems to go against the pasty white Brits.

Stephen Lawrence would disagree with that

The UK needs to bring back the death penalty. I can hear all the do gooders already saying "what if the wrong person is convicted" and I agree in the past that was very possible. Now however apart from more CCTV cameras than you can count we also have DNA finger printing. For those who have been living under a stone, DNA has the error rate of less than 1 person in the worlds entire population.

Edited June 2Jun 2 by Photoguy21

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Stephen Lawrence would disagree with that

As would Jean Charles de Menezes.

6 minutes ago, baansgr said:

No they didn't, they fought for india...in fact there were more sikhs in the waffen ss than there were fighting for Britain

Utter ignorant hogwash, perhaps deliberately so.

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I haven't see it reported anywhere .

Therefore taboo2 was entirely correct and your attempt at deflection to ww2 was completely unnecessary.

1 minute ago, baansgr said:

Truth hurts hey 😊

You clearly wouldn't know.

11 minutes ago, baansgr said:

How low can you go!!!!!!!

Why was that "low" ?

I was just repeating what the autopsy stated .

I wasn't giving my opinion

This sums it up watch if you can.

1 hour ago, baansgr said:

It's gonna be very interesting the next few weeks...and to top it all it's great weather...the ideal climate for riots and disorder. Good to see the usual leftist leaning nazis are out in full force defending the carrying of deadly weapons

Can you point out to a me a single person here who has defended the carrying of deadly weapons.

10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Really.........................Historical records show the exact opposite. During World War II, roughly 100,000 Sikhs fought for Britain in the British Indian Army, with over 83,000 losing their lives. In contrast, only around 3,000 Indians served in the Waffen-SS (the Indian Legion), of which Sikhs were a small fraction

Stop going off Topic Nick.

1 minute ago, josephbloggs said:

You clearly wouldn't know.

A poster said fighting for UK....not India, Africa or the far east...so tell me, how many Sikhs fought at D Day and how many were in the waffen ss...you really should know your history before making such comments