8 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Yes, it does. But the police did not know how much danger there was to Henry at the time, mainly because they didn't care to check for wounding properly! Even on the VDO it looks like there is some blood on Henry's hands! By cuffing him and rolling him around on the deck, the police might have easily worsened the situation.

No need to make excuses - there are none.

I haven't made any excuses .

Shall I say it loudly this time ?

THE POLICE MADE A HUGE MISTAKE

The police who attended should be immediatly suspended without pay until the enquiry has ended.

9 minutes ago, baansgr said:

Yes, the brother shouted racist at the judge...can you believe it...this summer is gonna be the reckoning

Totally unacceptable behaviour, he should have been arrested and charged with contempt of Court

Packer is a lefty...and a race baiter...no evidence of that....and.look at the videos, the racist murder still has his turban after calling police, then suddenly it's off when the police arrive...brown and black people best be aware this summer...your crap has become too much, killing innocent people...

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Totally unacceptable behaviour, he should have been arrested and charged with contempt of Court

So why wasn't he?

Any ideas?

Of course, race-baiting occurs in the closed-minded, even here in an expat forum. In fact, many of these racists confuse Sikhs with Muslims. Sikh men are required to not cut their hair, wear turbans and a steel bracelet and carry a ceremonial dagger celled a kirpan.

Deranged is deranged, no matter their ethnicity or religion.

3 minutes ago, baansgr said:

brown and black people best be aware this summer...your crap has become too much, killing innocent people...

Lets hope that your race war doesn't spread to Thailand , we are outnumbered here

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Lets hope that your race war doesn't spread to Thailand , we are outnumbered

I very much doubt it, the only "patriots" here are far right race baiting grifters that hide behind their kids...I hate nazis

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

Sadly Chomper most in the UK have no confidence in the Police with many cases involving them being shown as Institutionalised racist and are seen as more happy chasing online messages then arresing shoplifters. Some on here do not like and will den'y this but we also have two tier policing. I have just become aware of the Governments policy of DEI which is Diversity, Equality, and inclustion. I'm not going into this it can be googled but questions are being asked now about this policy such as how ethnicity is treated against white population in the UK. One of the most shocking pieces of the body cam footage was Henry saying " I've been stabbed " when yoy can hear an officer holding him saying " I don't believe you have " not noticing a knife wound in his face and his clothing soaked in blood.

I’m not sure I’m what basis you claim most of the UK.

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not sure I’m what basis you claim most of the UK.

Literally hundreds of videos...oh but I forgot you only read court records

It's a shame that the likes of Farage aand Tommy Robinson do not respect Henry's father wishes and stop making political capital out of his son's murder. "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension".

A shame, but not surprising.

4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Yerr but ow many Sikhs were at the D-Day landings in 1944...........😏

167 approximately...sticking up fighting for the UK...and do you know how many were killed..none, nada, zero...the indians were only interested in india

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You don't seem to be able to understand .

Medic sy his injuries were so severe that he really would have died anyway , are you disagreeing with the medics ?

Are you claiming that he would have survived if the Police assisted him immediately ?

The medics may be right , on the other hand they may be wrong , it does happen , and it happens quite a lot , From what I saw of the police body cam footage as a non medically qualified person, his condition, to me, did seem in keeping with somebody on their last legs , or at least seriously injured. the poor guy was semi conscious on the ground, he was obviously in pretty bad shape , he told the police officers several times that he had been stabbed and that he could not breathe ,

The police are no more medically trained than I am, and they must have seen how bad his condition was , but its beyond their payscale to decide whether or not he would have survived so whatever the medics say is irrelevant it certainly does not excuse the polices behaviour I'm trying to imagine the relevant multiple choice question that might appear in the police entrance exam that covers a situation liked this

You attend an incident and on arrival a man appears to be critically injured which Four things should you do

A) Establish the extent of his injuries and administer first aid to the best of your ability until the medics arrive

B) Take the word of the other suspiciously uninjured person, as the victim cannot speak for himself,accepting any allegations of racism

D) Ignore his claims of being injured or unable to breathe

E) Handcuff him face down to the ground, as in your opinion he is fatally wounded yet still poses a threat

Correct answer B.C.D&E

listening to the usual suspects refusing to outright condemn this incident , is quite disturbing but sadly predictable, Yes most people are rightfully angry about this, but the lefties really should be as well,

6 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

It's a shame that the likes of Farage aand Tommy Robinson do not respect Henry's father wishes and stop making political capital out of his son's murder. "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension".

A shame, but not surprising.

Please post where the father of the victim of this atrocious racial murder mentioned tommy Robinson...this is the exact lefty nazi hatred that causes division...you and your ilk are the root cause. Do you fell happy playing a part in the death of an 18 year old student???

I think the Father of the victim should appeal the leniency of the sentence. Minimum 30 years would be better

22 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not sure I’m what basis you claim most of the UK.

Are you actually serious? If there was a nationwide uk poll tomorrow asking "do you have confidence in the police" Are you suggesting that the majority of people would say "yes"

52 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I haven't made any excuses .

Shall I say it loudly this time ?

THE POLICE MADE A HUGE MISTAKE

I don't think its that simple, the police did act in error. as has become clear. But why did that error occur ?

don't think it was accidental, i think it was the result of years of indoctrination, years of attending diversity courses, years of having their imaginary "subconscious racism" exorcised out of them by exceedingly well paid diversity consultants that their higher ups have forced them to listen to

Yes the police made a mistake but their biggest mistake has been made long term over the past years and continues to be made , allowing the force to become infected with wokeness will never end well, It is the antithesis of common sense

1 hour ago, baansgr said:

Was 3 minutes not one...keep up lefty

What difference does it make as to whether it was 1 or 3 minutes ?

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

So why wasn't he?

Any ideas?

Well jonny, the poor guy was obviously very upset and will have to live with the comments he made for the rest of his life surely punishment enough and for all you know he may have learning difficulties or even be suffering from ADHD or something give him a chance

But every cloud has a silver lining and its given me an idea, how about we have "Public Deportations" it could run alongside the national lottery each week the general public could vote for say 50 illegal immigrants or indeed any immigrants who have been convicted of any crime , to be publicly deported and we could watch the "winners" boarding the cargo plane live on national TV with the film slightly speeded up and the benny hill tune playing for comedic effect

It would generate a good turnout certainly a bigger one than the big brother house.

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

What difference does it make as to whether it was 1 or 3 minutes ?

difference between life and death , difference between a full recovery or possibly living the rest of one's life as a vegetable That's why the emergency services have blue lights, sirens , and are allowed to run red lights! it's also why there is rightful outrag,e when some idiots refuse to get out of the way, outrage which I am sure you have participated in, in the past

29 minutes ago, baansgr said:

I think the Father of the victim should appeal the leniency of the sentence. Minimum 30 years would be better

followed by immediate deportation after the full sentence has been served his old crone of a mother and his brother can go now. In fact I would be in favour of him serving his entire sentence in an Indian prison as I'm sure conditions will be more appropriate there and it reduces the cost to the UK taxpayer

2 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

difference between life and death , difference between a full recovery or possibly living the rest of one's life as a vegetable That's why the emergency services have blue lights, sirens , and are allowed to run red lights! it's also why there is rightful outrag,e when some idiots refuse to get out of the way, outrage which I am sure you have participated in, in the past

The stab wounds were fatal , he died before the ambulance arrived , calling the ambulance a few minutes earlier would not have saved him

What difference does it make as to whether it was 1 or 3 minutes ?

Maybe ask the victims father!!!...You are getting so low and disgusting with your comments

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Funny how these "mistakes" are always in the same direction.

Almost like it's systemic/institutional.

It's a shame Lammy couldn't get his 2 tier sentencing guidelines in place for cases like this.

As starmer showed following the southport unrest it is not necessary to actually get anything in place, just a mention in the right ears is enough

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The stab wounds were fatal , he died before the ambulance arrived , calling the ambulance a few minutes earlier would not have saved him

So they say, yet the stab wound were not noticed by the police? you do realise how much blood the human body holds and how messy things get when it leaks out? Nobody knows if he would have survived or not, it is an irrelevant opinion by those who were not able to be there when they should have been , Your constant repeating of this is not a good look after all you were not there either, its clear you have dug a large hole for yourself good luck climbing out of it , but at least stop digging

7 minutes ago, baansgr said:

What difference does it make as to whether it was 1 or 3 minutes ?

Maybe ask the victims father!!!...You are getting so low and disgusting with your comments

You are way too emotional and sensitive .

Go and have a little cry in the corner until you feel better

43 minutes ago, baansgr said:

I think the Father of the victim should appeal the leniency of the sentence. Minimum 30 years would be better

I think it would be a nice gesture if the government or even Starmer himself launched the appeal and sacked the judge along with the judge who let off the child rapists was it the same one?

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You are way too emotional and sensitive .

Go and have a little cry in the corner until you feel better

Ok, I just hope nothing similar happens to your kid in kathu

Edited June 2Jun 2 by baansgr

2 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

So they say, yet the stab wound were not noticed by the police? you do realise how much blood the human body holds and how messy things get when it leaks out? Nobody knows if he would have survived or not, it is an irrelevant opinion by those who were not able to be there when they should have been , Your constant repeating of this is not a good look after all you were not there either, its clear you have dug a large hole for yourself good luck climbing out of it , but at least stop digging

I did read it in the report .

There was internal damage , don't think death was caused by blood loss .

People who do autopsies came to that conclusion , they are trained professionals , its hardly an irrelevant opinion

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You are way too emotional and sensitive .

Go and have a little cry in the corner until you feel better

I have been suspended for less "controversial" comments

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

I have been suspended for less "controversial" comments

How can stating facts that were reported in the media reports be in any way "controversial" ?

Medics say they couldn't have saved him as his internal injuries were to severe.

Its completely the Sikhs fault, its not the polices fault at all