Anyway, mass migration is an extension of colonization.

If western countries wouldn't have colonized and repressed these countries, their countries would not be broken and they would not be forced to migrate.

They would actually prefer to remain in their own cultures if their countries weren't broken.

18 hours ago, bannork said:

Made me laugh how Jonny was applauding the final before it happened- 2 teams which had kept their ethnicity intact- not one 'black' player on the Argentinian team.

I was applauding the football. Spain had been magnificent. Rodri, what a star. A Rolls Royce of a player. Unai Simon in goal. Incredible. The cream of a world class crop.

Then we had Messi for Argentina, probably the greatest player of all time. The GOAT. That second half team performance against England was incredible. Zero fear. Total focus. Domination.

18 hours ago, bannork said:

And then the Argentinians behaved appallingly, fouling during the game, and even worse afterwards, punching, striking, you name it.

Oh Boo Hoo. A rough game. Take up rounders and play the under 12's girls team if it's too rough for you.

That's the beauty of the homogenous nation state. Argentina have their style, so did Norway. So did Japan and Korea. Viva la difference. I certainly don't want every team to be an England clone with their good athletes with low footballing IQ, lack of courage and low creativity.

18 hours ago, bannork said:

What sore losers! What a culture! Sir Alf was right back in 1966, and he's right now.

Sore losers? Watch the second half against England. They had more testosterone in Lautaro Martinez's left nut sack than the whole England team had, including the German manager. Courage, mentality, winning spirit. You expect them to take the knee and celebrate losing like some Southgate rainbow team? Dream on soft lad.

18 hours ago, bannork said:

FIFA better check the players' DNA before the next World Cup. There could be some some Nazi elements in there from the players' ancestors post 1945.

Strange comment. Maybe you can ban Austria and Germany if you want to exclude players with Nazi DNA. Maybe ban Japan due to IJA DNA while you're at it.

12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You’ve not been to Dubai or Abu Dhabi have you?

The pub being discussed is in Dubai?

56 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Anyway, mass migration is an extension of colonization.

If western countries wouldn't have colonized and repressed these countries, their countries would not be broken and they would not be forced to migrate.

They would actually prefer to remain in their own cultures if their countries weren't broken.

Stop trolling.

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Strange comment. Maybe you can ban Austria and Germany if you want to exclude players with Nazi DNA. Maybe ban Japan due to IJA DNA while you're at it.

That’s an even stranger comment from a guy who argues the existence of an ‘English Ethnicity’ rooted in ancestry that denies the inclusion of century old communities.

Any update on answering the simple question you’ve been dodging Jonny?

England’s Jewish community has a continuity that dates back to the early Middle Ages.

So Jonny, tell us, are members of that community English?

And if they are not ‘English’ what are they?

11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

The pub being discussed is in Dubai?

So let’s discuss English pubs then Jonny.

If, like me, you spend any time traveling around and staying in rural English villages you’ll soon notice the dearth of village pubs.

There are whole areas of rural England from which village pubs have disappeared.

Oddly these are almost always communities with very low immigrant populations.

Maybe Muslims are not the cause of English pubs disappearing.

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

England’s Jewish community has a continuity that dates back to the early Middle Ages.

50 people living in isolation is not a community. And there is no continuity, there was a 350 year gap.

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So Jonny, tell us, are members of that community English?

And if they are not ‘English’ what are they?

Those 50 Jews living in isolation 800 years ago were Jewish. The clue is in the name.

Back on topic, the back players in the English team are not ethically English. Do you accept that now? The sons of African immigrants to England are not ethnically English. A few dozen Jews living briefly in England 800 years ago before being expelled does not change that.

If that's the best you've got to support your racist hate campaign of ethnic erasure, I pity you. 😄

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

50 people living in isolation is not a community. And there is no continuity, there was a 350 year gap.

Those 50 Jews living in isolation 800 years ago were Jewish. The clue is in the name.

Back on topic, the back players in the English team are not ethically English. Do you accept that now? The sons of African immigrants to England are not ethnically English. A few dozen Jews living briefly in England 800 years ago before being expelled does not change that.

If that's the best you've got to support your racist hate campaign of ethnic erasure, I pity you. 😄

So Jonny, Englands Jewish community

with its ancestry going back to the early Middle Ages are excluded from your definition of ‘Ethnically English’

They aren’t as English as the next Jonny because they are Jews?

Is that Wagner you’ve got playing in the background.

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So let’s discuss English pubs then Jonny.

If, like me, you spend any time traveling around and staying in rural English villages you’ll soon notice the dearth of village pubs.

There are whole areas of rural England from which village pubs have disappeared.

Oddly these are almost always communities with very low immigrant populations.

Maybe Muslims are not the cause of English pubs disappearing.

Strawman.

Nobody said they are the only reason. But they are obviously the main reason in Muslim areas since Muslims do not tend to publicly drink in pubs in the UK, certainly not on their own doorstep.

Of course, with sky high taxation to fund migrant hotels, overseas aid, welfare etc. there is a cost of living crisis that you may have heard of. People of all walks of life are suffering and have less money to spend than in the days of patriotic, non socialist governments.

Someone has to fund the massive cost of immigration and replacement of the British people, and it won't be the wealthy because they will simply leave, as we are seeing. The poor Brits are funding their own replacement, hence have less cash to enjoy themselves in the pub.

8 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Those 50 Jews living in isolation 800 years ago were Jewish. The clue is in the name.

Oh look they were Jews.

And of course Jews can’t be English, even when they’ve been in England 800 years?

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So Jonny, Englands Jewish community

with its ancestry going back to the early Middle Ages are excluded from your definition of ‘Ethnically English’

Well it doesn't date back to the middle ages since there was a 350 year gap as I already told you.

If it did, it would contribute marginally to the < 1% "other" that most people acknowledge.

So now your big "gotcha" moment failed, let's get back on topic.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Is that Wagner you’ve got playing in the background.

Actually, I'm listening to George Best by The Wedding Present. "Everyone thinks he looks daft" could have been written about you, Higgot. We see you.

Don't give me that
Because you were seen
Everyone thinks he looks daft
But you can have your dream

The only good thing about trying to work out who Burnham really is (since he won't answer questions), is that he quoted some decent albums I hadn't heard in a while. "George Best" being one of them. It's a shame he hasn't moved on politically from the time he discovered that album. Still stuck in 6th form politics, like you Higgot.

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Oh look they were Jews.

Historically correct for once. Well done.

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And of course Jews can’t be English, even when they’ve been in England 800 years?

That didn't last long 😄. We're back to historical fantasies. There was a 350 year gap Higgot, I already told you that.

As for being "English" they can obviously have English nationality. That's a piece of paper. Marc Guehi has the paperwork and he was born in Africa, coming here aged 3. He isn't ethnically English though, obviously.

Any other "nuggets" for us in your campaign of ethnic erasure, Higgot? 😁

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Strawman.

Nobody said they are the only reason. But they are obviously the main reason in Muslim areas since Muslims do not tend to publicly drink in pubs in the UK, certainly not on their own doorstep.

Of course, with sky high taxation to fund migrant hotels, overseas aid, welfare etc. there is a cost of living crisis that you may have heard of. People of all walks of life are suffering and have less money to spend than in the days of patriotic, non socialist governments.

Someone has to fund the massive cost of immigration and replacement of the British people, and it won't be the wealthy because they will simply leave, as we are seeing. The poor Brits are funding their own replacement, hence have less cash to enjoy themselves in the pub.

It’s not a strawman Jonny, it’s your denial of Jews who’ve been constantly present in England being as English as the next Jonny.

You’re not just a racist with you ‘racial purity’ constructs but a closet antisemite into the bargain.

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

We're back to historical fantasies. There was a 350 year gap Higgot, I already told you that.

As for being "English" they can obviously have English nationality.

There was not a 350 year gap, you yourself have admitted Jews were not completely expelled.

Oh they can be English with a bit of paper to prove it, but they can’t be truly English?

Excluding the Jews from the racially defined true blood people of a nation.

Text book antisemitism.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not a strawman Jonny, it’s your denial of Jews who’ve been constantly present in England being as English as the next Jonny.

There was a 350 year gap. Even if there hadn't been, it would be inconsequential. They would contribute a small part of the <1%. Hardly evidence that English ethnicity doesn't exist. 😄

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You’re not just a racist with you ‘racial purity’ constructs but a closet antisemite into the bargain.

You're the most rabid anti-semite on here. And a huge anti white racist, constantly pushing for the exclusion of whites from opportunities and branding it as "positive discrimination". You got some nerve calling ME racist, Higgot.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There was not a 350 year gap, you yourself have admitted Jews were not completely expelled.

Wrong, They were not immediately expelled. About 50 remained for a couple of decades before complete expulsion for 350 years. But like I said, even if a few dozen remained, which they didn't, it doesn't mean English ethnicity does not exist.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Oh they can be English with a bit of paper to prove it, but they can’t be truly English?

They cannot be "ethnically" English.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Excluding the Jews from the racially defined true blood people of a nation.

Text book antisemitism.

I'm just being historically correct. Research it.

For the third time, if a few dozen remained (which there is no historical record of), it would be a very small part of the <1%. No biggie, I just don't believe it was the case based on the historical data available. Hence, I will call you out when you try to re-write history to insert the weakest of arguments into your campaign of erasing English ethnicity. You're so desperate you have to lie to have even the feeblest crumb of an argument. 😄

You need to do better than that to erase English ethnicity Higgot, you anti-white, anti-semite, ethnic erasing, racist.

16 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

There was a 350 year gap. Even if there hadn't been, it would be inconsequential. They would contribute a small part of the <1%. Hardly evidence that English ethnicity doesn't exist. 😄

You're the most rabid anti-semite on here. And a huge anti white racist, constantly pushing for the exclusion of whites from opportunities and branding it as "positive discrimination". You got some nerve calling ME racist, Higgot.

Wrong, They were not immediately expelled. About 50 remained for a couple of decades before complete expulsion for 350 years. But like I said, even if a few dozen remained, which they didn't, it doesn't mean English ethnicity does not exist.

They cannot be "ethnically" English.

I'm just being historically correct. Research it.

For the third time, if a few dozen remained (which there is no historical record of), it would be a very small part of the <1%. No biggie, I just don't believe it was the case based on the historical data available. Hence, I will call you out when you try to re-write history to insert the weakest of arguments into your campaign of erasing English ethnicity. You're so desperate you have to lie to have even the feeblest crumb of an argument. 😄

You need to do better than that to erase English ethnicity Higgot, you anti-white, anti-semite, ethnic erasing, racist.

Jonny, you’ve presented actual evidence of you being an antisemite.

No amount of walking it back or DARVO on your part is going to provide you with a reverse gear on your own mouth.

You’ve openly articulated your view that ‘English Jews’ are excluded from your ‘pure blood’ definition of being English.

It’s text book antisemitism.

Oh of course, they can have a bit of paper that says they are English (you’ve said as much) but they’re not your ‘pure blood English’ are they Jonny?

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

I was applauding the football. Spain had been magnificent. Rodri, what a star. A Rolls Royce of a player. Unai Simon in goal. Incredible. The cream of a world class crop.

Then we had Messi for Argentina, probably the greatest player of all time. The GOAT. That second half team performance against England was incredible. Zero fear. Total focus. Domination.

Oh Boo Hoo. A rough game. Take up rounders and play the under 12's girls team if it's too rough for you.

That's the beauty of the homogenous nation state. Argentina have their style, so did Norway. So did Japan and Korea. Viva la difference. I certainly don't want every team to be an England clone with their good athletes with low footballing IQ, lack of courage and low creativity.

Sore losers? Watch the second half against England. They had more testosterone in Lautaro Martinez's left nut sack than the whole England team had, including the German manager. Courage, mentality, winning spirit. You expect them to take the knee and celebrate losing like some Southgate rainbow team? Dream on soft lad.

Strange comment. Maybe you can ban Austria and Germany if you want to exclude players with Nazi DNA. Maybe ban Japan due to IJA DNA while you're at it.

Argentina were so great they didn't have one shot on goal against Spain in the second half.

They were sore losers, the cry babies of the tournament once the final whistle blew, assaulting the Spanish players.

24 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Jonny, you’ve presented actual evidence of you being an antisemite.

No amount of walking it back or DARVO on your part is going to provide you with a reverse gear on your own mouth.

You’ve openly articulated your view that ‘English Jews’ are excluded from your ‘pure blood’ definition of being English.

It’s text book antisemitism.

Oh of course, they can have a bit of paper that says they are English (you’ve said as much) but they’re not your ‘pure blood English’ are they Jonny?

More lies.

I said your history is incorrect. Which it is. History shows there was a 350 year gap. Research it, then apologize.

If it were correct, they would make up a tiny fraction of the <1%. But it isn't.

Lies are all you have at this point. You have admitted your own racism at many times saying you consider it positive that white people are discriminated against, calling it a positive thing (under the guise of DEI).

You are terrible racist Higgot. And a liar and a horrible anti-semite. Your desperate attempts at ethic erasure revolt me. I've disproven your imagined "gotcha" moment, so go stalk someone else, I feel like I need a shower. 🤢

14 minutes ago, bannork said:

Argentina were so great they didn't have one shot on goal against Spain in the second half.

They were sore losers, the cry babies of the tournament once the final whistle blew, assaulting the Spanish players.

Argentina were poor in the final. Hence they are only the second best team in the world after dominating a mentally weak English side in the semi.

If you want great losers Argentina are not for you.

Spain are the best. Well done Spain. Well done Rodri, Simon, Merino, Oyarzabal et al. Great players, high footballing IQ, passion, courage, skill, technique.

The best team won.

10 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Argentina were poor in the final. Hence they are only the second best team in the world after dominating a mentally weak English side in the semi.

If you want great losers Argentina are not for you.

Spain are the best. Well done Spain. Well done Rodri, Simon, Merino, Oyarzabal et al. Great players, high footballing IQ, passion, courage, skill, technique.

The best team won.

Hilarious that you can't bring yourself to praise Yamal.

42 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

More lies.

I said your history is incorrect. Which it is. History shows there was a 350 year gap. Research it, then apologize.

If it were correct, they would make up a tiny fraction of the <1%. But it isn't.

Lies are all you have at this point. You have admitted your own racism at many times saying you consider it positive that white people are discriminated against, calling it a positive thing (under the guise of DEI).

You are terrible racist Higgot. And a liar and a horrible anti-semite. Your desperate attempts at ethic erasure revolt me. I've disproven your imagined "gotcha" moment, so go stalk someone else, I feel like I need a shower. 🤢

There’s no reverse gear on your antisemitic mouth Jonny.

37 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There’s no reverse gear on your antisemitic mouth Jonny.

Difficult to have a reverse gear on something that only exists in your mind, you white hating, DEI promoting, ethnic erasing, racist, gaslighting bigot.

1 hour ago, bannork said:

Hilarious that you can't bring yourself to praise Yamal.

I praise based on performance, not skin colour. Yamal had a poor tournament.

He's young though, I would expect him to be a lot better in 2030. Talented kid.

9 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Difficult to have a reverse gear on something that only exists in your mind, you white hating, DEI promoting, ethnic erasing, racist, gaslighting bigot.

Your antisemitism exists its in your black and white posts here in this thread Jonny.

No amount of DARVO on your part hides that fact.

Edited July 23Jul 23 by Chomper Higgot

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Your antisemitism exists I your black and white posted here in this thread Jonny.

No it exists in your mind only. 😄

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No amount of DARVO on your part hides that fact.

You're an anti semitic, ethnic erasing, bigoted, self confessed racist who calls discrimination against white people, positive.

Stalk someone else, Higgot, you vile bigot.

11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

No it exists in your mind only. 😄

You're an anti semitic, ethnic erasing, bigoted, self confessed racist who calls discrimination against white people, positive.

Stalk someone else, Higgot, you vile bigot.

The receipts on your antisemitism are posted by you in this thread Jonny.

No amount of your DARVO changes that fact.

I’ve quoted you on it above.

You have zero racist/antisemitic posts from me - zero!

Edited July 23Jul 23 by Chomper Higgot

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You have zero racist/antisemitic posts - zero!

Correct.

You on the other hand are a vile, racist, anti-semitic, ethnic erasing bigot, Higgot.

I’ll caution again, when the rightwing white supremicists are done hating on immigrants they’ll get back to hating on Jews.

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Correct.

You on the other hand are a vile, racist, anti-semitic, ethnic erasing bigot, Higgot.

You have zero posts racist or antisemitic posts from me.

If you had you would be quoting them.

But never mind eh Jonny, English Jews who’s community in England has existed in a continuous line back as far as the Middle Ages might not meet your blood purity test of what being English is, but they can at least claim on paper to be English.

Jonny the racist turns out to be an antisemite too.

I wish I could say I’m shocked.

Edited July 23Jul 23 by Chomper Higgot

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You have zero posts racist or antisemitic posts from me.

If you had you would be quoting them.

But never mind eh Jonny, English Jews who’s community in England has existed in a continuous line back as far as the Middle Ages might not meet your blood purity test of what being English is, but they can at least claim on paper to be English.

Jonny the racist turns out to be an antisemite too.

I wish I could say I’m shocked.

You are known as the resident anti-semite, Higgot. You've been at it for years. Like the rest of the Labour shills. Now you are making a lame attempt at turning my correction of your incorrect historical portrayal of English history as anti-semitism. It's as pathetic as you are, Higgot.

I repeat, Jewish people were absent from the UK for roughly 365 years, as King Edward I issued the Edict of Expulsion in 1290, and Oliver Cromwell informally allowed them to resettle in 1656.

That's historical fact, Higgot. Now, if you can find a post where I celebrated that fact, feel free to quote it. You won't be able to, because there isn't one, making you a disgusting liar as well as a racist who celebrates discrimination against white people and a snob who mocks the white working classes.

So stop stalking me you vile, racist, anti-semitic, ethnic erasing bigot, Higgot.

13 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

You are known as the resident anti-semite, Higgot. You've been at it for years. Like the rest of the Labour shills. Now you are making a lame attempt at turning my correction of your incorrect historical portrayal of English history as anti-semitism. It's as pathetic as you are, Higgot.

I repeat, Jewish people were absent from the UK for roughly 365 years, as King Edward I issued the Edict of Expulsion in 1290, and Oliver Cromwell informally allowed them to resettle in 1656.

That's historical fact, Higgot. Now, if you can find a post where I celebrated that fact, feel free to quote it. You won't be able to, because there isn't one, making you a disgusting liar as well as a racist who celebrates discrimination against white people and a snob who mocks the white working classes.

So stop stalking me you vile, racist, anti-semitic, ethnic erasing bigot, Higgot.

Sorry Jonny your DARVO won’t help you.

You have zero racist or antisemitic posts from me, if you had you would post them.

But never mind eh Jonny, by your own arguments put forward by you in this thread, while English Jews who’s community have existed in England since the late middle ages don’t meet your ‘English Ethnicity’ blood purity criteria (itself nonsense construct based on a denial of the facts of English history), they can at least claim to be English on paper.

Now all we have to determine is do you believe English Jews part of the ‘ethnic erasing’ of your ‘true blood’ ethnic English?