Soccer lover Barron Trump makes rare appearance next to his father as he towers over stadium of packed World Cup final fans

https://www.dailymail.com/sport/football/article-15985875/barron-trump-soccer-lover-world-cup.html

I did not realize that President Trump's son was so tall. He is certainly presidential material.

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Oh I see, 2 tier DEI. How predictable. When black people are under-represented we must have DEI to fix it. When it's white people under-represented, we must pretend they are incapable and black people are simply better.

That's the problem, Jonny: You don't see (at least not correctly). Your sense of misplaced self-grievance is so marked that you manage to view (almost) anything as an attack on your white Englishness.

No, you do not have to employ DEI policies each and every time when black people are under-represented. Nor do you have to when white people are under-represented. If there is a level playing field as there is in football in England DEI is not necessary.

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Reminds me of Eni Aluko's argument to Andrew Gold (for which she was rightly mocked - check the video and comments below).

WOKE TV Host Makes a FOOL of Herself in DEI Debate – Eni Aluko

You have more in common with Aluko then either of you would care to admit: You both have enormous chips on your shoulders.

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Tuchel had been influenced by the ultra woke, knee taking, rainbow lace promoting leftist organisation, the FA, to pick a mostly black side.

The left clearly thought that an England win with "diverse" players would unite the nation behind diversity. The likes of The Guardian showed their hand and shot their load too early and started celebrating it before we won. They've suddenly gone very quiet after the semi final results.

'Exhibits ... err ... sorry, m'lud, I've lost count ... n, n+1, ...n+ ...

You obviously don't realise how ridiculous this sounds.

You have lost contact with any sense of reality.

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

We were awful. No creativity. Foden/Palmer left behind. Not even in the squad. A German coach substituting our goal scorer in the final and putting Dan Burn (a centre back) up front. Bizarre. We deserved to lose.

We weren't awful. We were inconsistent. We were excellent in parts (Croatia, Mexico, until we scored in the semi) and poor in many other games (Ghana, DR Congo, after subs in Argentina match).

We all have our views about who should have been in the team. Imo Tuchel was proved correct in leaving out Foden and Palmer, neither of whom had good seasons. If one of them had been taken, then Gordon probably wouldn't have gone and he was one of our best players in the tournament.

The substitutions cost us the semi-final.

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Well done Spain (unfortunately Raymond your great hope for Spanish diversity, Yamine Lamal, under-performed in the tournament).

Yes, well done Spain. Did all football fans a favour. A victory against your favourite side, the anti-football Argentina.

Lamal wasn't as influential throughout the tournament as I'm sure that he and Spain would have hoped but he still had his moments.

The fact that you openly celebrate the "failure" of a 19-year old black player says all we need to know about you, Jonny.

Edited July 20Jul 20 by RayC

7 hours ago, JonnyF said:

You were claiming children of immigrants born in England are ethnically English. You called me racist when I pointed out the fact that they are not.

No, I did not claim children of immigrants born in England are ethnically English and, yes, I did call you racist because what you say is racist.

You either don't understand what I have said or are lying. I suspect it is the latter.

What I have said all along is that 'Ethnic Englishness' is a meaningless concept when applied in 21st century England as the number of people with a pure bloodline dating back to the indigenous tribes of England is Infinitesimally small.

Once you redefine 'Ethnic English' - as you tried to do - to include immigrants such as Saxons, Romans, Vikings, etc, the term becomes even more meaningless and in redefining the term, you must - for consistency's sake - also allow for the possibility that latter-day immigrants e.g. African immigrants can also be considered 'Ethnic English'.

What you can't do - as you have consistently tried to do to suit the situation - is to switch between the established definition of 'Ethnic English i.e. bloodline to the indigenous tribes of England and your revised definition i.e. add latter-day white immigrant groups' such as Romans, etc.

7 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Now you've walked that back. I think you owe me an apology Ray. Seems you can't tell black British people to deny their true ethnicity after all. Seems you don't get to erase their heritage like you try to do to the English. 😄

See previous paragraph. I haven't walked anything back. I don't owe you an apology, Jonny. In fact, you should thank me for pointing out the flaws in your argument which should, if you act rationally, mean that you reconsider your position.

I'm not trying to deny anyone their heritage. You are trying to deny 'Black Englishman' their English identity.

7 hours ago, JonnyF said:

At least you've admitted you were wrong for once. Embarrassing, Ray.😄

Indeed, it is embarrassing, Jonny but not for me. Your twisting, turning and avoidance of facts would be humiliating for most people but, seemingly, you have no shame. In some ways, I feel sorry for you.

Actually, there was a major oversight on my part. Nowhere in this torturous exchange have I directly asked you the most pertinent question.

Notwithstanding my comment about the irrelevance of the concept of 'Ethnic English' in 21st century England, 'Why does it matter that a Black person is not ethnically English? i.e if a Black person was born in England, identifies as English and is proud to be English, what is the difference - apart from skin pigmentation - between this individual and a similar White Englishman?

Some supplementary questions for you to answer: Is the white Englishman somehow 'more English'? And more importantly, what are the implications? Should these two individuals be treated differently simply because of the difference in skin pigmentation?

Not in my eyes, how about you, Jonny?

Edited July 20Jul 20 by RayC

7 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Nah, you've completely dismissed all my arguments just so you can continue to ram your opinions down people's throats.

Please go do some research into how France is training their youth. There must be something shady going on favoring the immigrants in the banlieues.

And please don't tell me every player on every team is of such a high caliber that they cannot easily be replaced. You are deluded about the entire sport of football if you believe that. 80 per cent of players are mediocre and can easily be replaced.

If you say so.

I take it football is not your first-love and/or you are a recent convert to the charms of the 'beautiful game'?

5 minutes ago, RayC said:

If you say so.

I take it football is not your first-love and/or you are a recent convert to the charms of the 'beautiful game'?

Its the same for all team sports.

The mediocre and crap players hide behind the superstars.

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

Its the same for all team sports.

The mediocre and crap players hide behind the superstars.

I don't understand your point.

Like all walks of life, there are different levels of ability.

I used to play a fairly decent level of amateur football (both men's and Vets) and played with and against some lower-level - mainly 3rd/4th tier - ex-pros. I wouldn't call them 'superstars' but, more often than not, they stood out as the best players on the pitch. However, if you had put them on the same pitch as "mediocre" World Cup players such as Gusto, Rabiot, Toney, Chalobah, etc or similar players from the past, I'm almost certain that most of them would have been out of their depth.

1 minute ago, RayC said:

I don't understand your point.

My point is not that difficult to understand.

A small percentage of players are highly talented and impossible to replace.

Many players on each team are not highly talented and there are many other players out there who could replace them and no one would notice and it wouldn't make any difference in the team's outcome.

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

My point is not that difficult to understand.

A small percentage of players are highly talented and impossible to replace.

Many players on each team are not highly talented and there are many other players out there who could replace them and no one would notice and it wouldn't make any difference in the team's outcome.

Team building is a lot more than just putting talent together. Every position has its own qualities to fill.

The best players often do not get much attention in the spotlight, but they keep the team together and control the game.

The son of a migrant shows his gratitude, giving his gold medal to his mother who has made the journey across the Sahara from Ghana to Spain

15 hours ago, RayC said:

No, I did not claim children of immigrants born in England are ethnically English

Yes, you did. You said the black players in the England team are ethnically English. And you called me racist for pointing out that they are not.

Most black players are children of African immigrants. Some were born in Africa and came here as infants. How could they possibly be ethnically English?

15 hours ago, RayC said:

and, yes, I did call you racist because what you say is racist.

No. You called me racist because I said they are not ethnically English. They are not ethnically English. Stating facts is not racist. Now are you trying to squirm out of it because I have completed owned you on your ridiculous assertion and pointed out how ludicrous it is. 😄

Stick to hating on the English and their culture Ray. Stick to your attempts at ethnic erasure. Anti-white racism is clearly your passion project. You remind me of Ash Sarkar.

55 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Yes, you did. You said the black players in the England team are ethnically English. And you called me racist for pointing out that they are not.

Most black players are children of African immigrants. Some were born in Africa and came here as infants. How could they possibly be ethnically English?

No. You called me racist because I said they are not ethnically English. They are not ethnically English. Stating facts is not racist. Now are you trying to squirm out of it because I have completed owned you on your ridiculous assertion and pointed out how ludicrous it is. 😄

Stick to hating on the English and their culture Ray. Stick to your attempts at ethnic erasure. Anti-white racism is clearly your passion project. You remind me of Ash Sarkar.

Your ‘ethnically English’ construct is meaningless.

England didn’t exist as a nation until the late 10th Century, nobody could call themselves English before that date.

Less than a century later the Normans conquered England, replacing the whole of the nobility, the vast majority of the clergy and instigated French as the language of the ‘English State’.

For over 300 years the only literature in England was written in either French or Latin.

Many of England’s current nobility trace their family lineage in an unbroken line back to the Norman conquest. Still lording it over ‘the English’ over 900 years after taking the place over.

In the interim years there has been constant flows of immigrants, Jews in the Middle Ages, Huguenots and Flemish in the late Middle Ages, Dutch in the 18th Century, immigrants from across European, specifically more Jews, and Irish in the 19th Century, commonwealth immigrants in the post WW2 period.

And non of that included the constant immigration intermarrying and inter breading around England’s numerous sea and inland ports.

Centuries of immigrants arriving in the England, settling down, getting on with life and within a generation being as English as the next Jonny down the road.

You’re ’Ethically English’ is absolute nonsense.

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Your ‘ethnically English’ construct is meaningless.

England didn’t exist as a nation until the late 10th Century, nobody could call themselves English before that date.

Less than a century later the Normans conquered England, replacing the whole of the nobility, the vast majority of the clergy and instigated French as the language of the ‘English State’.

For over 300 years the only literature in England was written in either French or Latin.

Many of England’s current nobility trace their family lineage in an unbroken line back to the Norman conquest. Still lording it over ‘the English’ over 900 years after taking the place over.

In the interim years there has been constant flows of immigrants, Jews in the Middle Ages, Huguenots and Flemish in the late Middle Ages, Dutch in the 18th Century, immigrants from across European, specifically more Jews, and Irish in the 19th Century, commonwealth immigrants in the post WW2 period.

And non of that included the constant immigration intermarrying and inter breading around England’s numerous sea and inland ports.

Centuries of immigrants arriving in the England, settling down, getting on with life and within a generation being as English as the next Jonny down the road.

You’re ’Ethically English’ is absolute nonsense.

Heard it all before Higgot. Ethnic erasure. Straight out of the leftist, anti-English handbook.

Was it part of your Guardian newsletter?

20 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Heard it all before Higgot. Ethnic erasure. Straight out of the leftist, anti-English handbook.

Check out this perspective from a Moroccan media source.

https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2026/06/323545/the-colonizers-lineup-france-plays-africa-and-has-the-nerve-to-lecture-morocco/

44 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Heard it all before Higgot. Ethnic erasure. Straight out of the leftist, anti-English handbook.

Was it part of your Guardian newsletter?

No Jonny, it wasn’t a Guardian News Letter, it’s based on the facts to the history of immigration to England. Feel free to point out which phases of of immigration I referred to were not in fact historically correct.

And while you’ll fail at that, please provide a link to the screenshots you’ve posted.

I really would like to read more about what the source of your unattributed screenshot has to say about “ The term ‘Ethnic Erasure of English ’ generally refers to the perceived marginalization of English Identity, History and Culture”.

I suspect the perception of what is English identity is as much myth as it is fact, your inability to accept centuries of immigrants as part of English Ethnicity is a clue I might be right.

Out with it Jonny, a link to your unattributed screenshot.

Edited July 21Jul 21 by Chomper Higgot

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Yes, you did. You said the black players in the England team are ethnically English. And you called me racist for pointing out that they are not.

How many times do I have to explain this to you?

1. There are an infinitesimally small number of Englishmen alive today who have a bloodline which can be traced back to the indigenous tribes of England.

2. Those Englishmen living today - almost certainly including you and me - have ancestors from a combination of 'tribes' who were not indigenous to England, but were immigrants and/or invaders e.g. Romans, Angles, Saxons, Vikings, Normans, etc

3. The phrase 'Ethnic English' therefore has little practical meaning if you apply it to Englishmen living today

4. If you redefine the phrase 'Ethnic English' to include the tribes named in 2) as you do, then why not include latter day immigrants such as Africans? However, if you do so then the phrase - which has little practical value - loses even its' academic and semantic value.

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Most black players are children of African immigrants.

Being pedantic, many are Jamaican but, yes, they can trace their ancestry back to Africa.

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Some were born in Africa and came here as infants. How could they possibly be ethnically English?

For the umpteenth time, I am not claiming that they are 'ethnically English'. They are no more 'ethnically English' than those of Roman, Angle, Saxon, etc blood.

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

No. You called me racist because I said they are not ethnically English. They are not ethnically English. Stating facts is not racist. Now are you trying to squirm out of it because I have completed owned you on your ridiculous assertion and pointed out how ludicrous it is. 😄

I called you a racist (and a liar) because that is what you are.

You actively seek to highlight any perceived difference between white and non-white and when the irrationality of your argument is highlighted you cannot answer direct questions directly, but instead resort to lies - i.e. ascribing comments to me which I haven't made - and introducing tangential and irrelevant distractions.

Sad and pathetic.

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Stick to hating on the English and their culture Ray. Stick to your attempts at ethnic erasure. Anti-white racism is clearly your passion project. You remind me of Ash Sarkar.

I'm not anti-white, Jonny. As I have explained to you countless times, I don't do self-loathing and I am (generally) a rational person.

Neither do I hate England or English culture. I'm proud to be English, especially of the fact that most of us are tolerant and welcoming. It's the racists that I despise. You remind me of the likes of Nick Griffin with your pseudo-intellectual attempts at justifying your racism.

26 minutes ago, RayC said:

How many times do I have to explain this to you?

1. There are an infinitesimally small number of Englishmen alive today who have a bloodline which can be traced back to the indigenous tribes of England.

2. Those Englishmen living today - almost certainly including you and me - have ancestors from a combination of 'tribes' who were not indigenous to England, but were immigrants and/or invaders e.g. Romans, Angles, Saxons, Vikings, Normans, etc

3. The phrase 'Ethnic English' therefore has little practical meaning if you apply it to Englishmen living today

4. If you redefine the phrase 'Ethnic English' to include the tribes named in 2) as you do, then why not include latter day immigrants such as Africans? However, if you do so then the phrase - which has little practical value - loses even its' academic and semantic value.

Being pedantic, many are Jamaican but, yes, they can trace their ancestry back to Africa.

For the umpteenth time, I am not claiming that they are 'ethnically English'. They are no more 'ethnically English' than those of Roman, Angle, Saxon, etc blood.

I called you a racist (and a liar) because that is what you are.

You actively seek to highlight any perceived difference between white and non-white and when the irrationality of your argument is highlighted you cannot answer direct questions directly, but instead resort to lies - i.e. ascribing comments to me which I haven't made - and introducing tangential and irrelevant distractions.

Sad and pathetic.

I'm not anti-white, Jonny. As I have explained to you countless times, I don't do self-loathing and I am (generally) a rational person.

Neither do I hate England or English culture. I'm proud to be English, especially of the fact that most of us are tolerant and welcoming. It's the racists that I despise. You remind me of the likes of Nick Griffin with your pseudo-intellectual attempts at justifying your racism.

You change your tune every time I win an argument.😄

You are no longer Pro DEI.

You no longer think black players are ethnically English.

All I need to do now is convince you get you to admit that there is indeed such a thing as the ethnically English and my work here will be done.

I won't try to address your anti-white racism. I think that runs too deep for even me to tackle, Racist Ray. Self loathing is a psychological issue, not a political one.

More lies. More avoidance. Plus ça change.

11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

You change your tune every time I win an argument.😄

You are no longer Pro DEI.

A lie.

I have always stated that I support the goals of DEI. I still do.

11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

You no longer think black players are ethnically English.

A lie.

I have never claimed that black players are 'ethnically English'. They are clearly not descended wholly from the indigenous tribes of England. Neither are the overwhelming majority of White Englishmen alive today. A FACT that you refuse to accept

11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

All I need to do now is convince you get you to admit that there is indeed such a thing as the ethnically English and my work here will be done.

See above.

It's up to you to prove that the concept of 'Ethnical Englishness' has any practical meaning in 21st century England.

You've been unable to do so in 9 pages of twisting, turning and avoiding the issue, so I don't see why page 10 should be any different.

11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I won't try to address your anti-white racism. I think that runs too deep for even me to tackle, Racist Ray. Self loathing is a psychological issue, not a political one.

You won't try because like every other occasion you are pressed to logically justify your bigoted, prejudice, racist viewpoints you are unable to do so and instead resort to twists, turns, avoidance and outright lying.

None so blind as those who refuse to see. You're a racist, Jonny. Pure and simple as that.

15 hours ago, RayC said:

More lies. More avoidance. Plus ça change.

A lie.

I have always stated that I support the goals of DEI. I still do.

A lie.

I have never claimed that black players are 'ethnically English'. They are clearly not descended wholly from the indigenous tribes of England. Neither are the overwhelming majority of White Englishmen alive today. A FACT that you refuse to accept

Ethnic& Identity Groups

See above.

It's up to you to prove that the concept of 'Ethnical Englishness' has any practical meaning in 21st century England.

You've been unable to do so in 9 pages of twisting, turning and avoiding the issue, so I don't see why page 10 should be any different.

You won't try because like every other occasion you are pressed to logically justify your bigoted, prejudice, racist viewpoints you are unable to do so and instead resort to twists, turns, avoidance and outright lying.

None so blind as those who refuse to see. You're a racist, Jonny. Pure and simple as that.

You are a liar and a racist, Ray.

Now you have reverted to supporting DEI again, an inherently racist policy. Therefore, you are 100% overtly racist. No if, no buts, an out an out racist. Own it Ray.

No ethnicity is 100% pure. English ethnicity is made up mainly of indigenous Brits, Anglo saxons and vikings . That does not mean it is not an ethnicity. It traces back around 1,500 years. You are just claiming it does not exist and calling the English "mongrels" because you are an anti white racist, a globalist shill intent on ethnic erasure. Ethnic erasure/ethnocide, cultural genocide, call it what you like but it's a filthy business, even the UN considers it deeply immoral. Your dedication to it says an awful lot about you. None of it good. Shame on you.

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

You are a liar and a racist, Ray.

Now you have reverted to supporting DEI again, an inherently racist policy. Therefore, you are 100% overtly racist. No if, no buts, an out an out racist. Own it Ray.

No ethnicity is 100% pure. English ethnicity is made up mainly of indigenous Brits, Anglo saxons and vikings . That does not mean it is not an ethnicity. It traces back around 1,500 years. You are just claiming it does not exist and calling the English "mongrels" because you are an anti white racist, a globalist shill intent on ethnic erasure. Ethnic erasure/ethnocide, cultural genocide, call it what you like but it's a filthy business, even the UN considers it deeply immoral. Your dedication to it says an awful lot about you. None of it good. Shame on you.

Your definition of ‘English Ethnicity’ is a false construct.

Explanation above.

Still no link Jonny?

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Your definition of ‘English Ethnicity’ is a false construct.

Explanation above.

Still no link Jonny?

The explanation is the ramblings of an anti-white racist globalist intent on ethnic/cultural erasure.

English ethnicity is widely accepted amongst intellectuals/social anthropologists. A couple of leftist nutters on AN liking each others posts does not change that.

here's your link.

English people - Wikipedia

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

The explanation is the ramblings of an anti-white racist globalist intent on ethnic/cultural erasure.

English ethnicity is widely accepted amongst intellectuals/social anthropologists. A couple of leftist nutters on AN liking each others posts does not change that.

Ethnic& Identity Groups

here's your link.

English people - Wikipedia

Widely accepted amongst intellectuals/social anthropologists you say.

Then you offer us something from Wikipedia that which actually supports my post dismantling your false ‘ethnic English’ construct.

Chomper says:

22 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

England didn’t exist as a nation until the late 10th Century, nobody could call themselves English before that date.

Jonny’s Wikipedia life vest says;

“The English Identity began with the Anglo Saxons”

Well yes, then all those other folk turned up, refer my post above.

If, however, being corrected by the facts in my post above is too painful for you, just read the rest of the Wikipedia article you posted from.

From your Wikipedia article:

“Some definitions of English people include, while others exclude, people descended from later migration into England.”

Well yes, we know your racist views exclude later immigrants.

While you might not exclude the Normans, they are after all so well represented in the House of Lords, but what about the descendants Jews and Huguenots, the Flemish, Dutch and myriad others who have for centuries been present amongst the population of England, which of these does your racism force you to exclude from being English?

Your Wikipedia life vest gives a more comprehensive summary supportive of my post above, you really should have read it before posting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_people

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Widely accepted amongst intellectuals/social anthropologists you say.

Then you offer us something from Wikipedia that which actually supports my post dismantling your false ‘ethnic English’ construct.

GeographicReference

Chomper says:

Jonny’s Wikipedia life vest says;

“The English Identity began with the Anglo Saxons”

Well yes, then all those other folk turned up, refer my post above.

If, however, being corrected by the facts in my post above is too painful for you, just read the rest of the Wikipedia article you posted from.

From your Wikipedia article:

“Some definitions of English people include, while others exclude, people descended from later migration into England.”

Well yes, we know your racist views exclude later immigrants.

While you might not exclude the Normans, they are after all so well represented in the House of Lords, but what about the descendants Jews and Huguenots, the Flemish, Dutch and myriad others who have for centuries been present amongst the population of England, which of these does your racism force you to exclude from being English?

Soccer

Your Wikipedia life vest gives a more comprehensive summary supportive of my post above, you really should have read it before posting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_people

So you accept English ethnicity exists now? You are just questioning how far back it goes... 😄

Progress...

We always fix these misconceptions and bigoted ideas one step at a time. Refer Racist Ray.

Just now, JonnyF said:

So you accept English ethnicity exists now? You are just questioning how far back it goes... 😄

Progress...

We always fix these misconceptions and bigoted ideas one step at a time. Refer Racist Ray.

English ethnicity is a false construct, it’s not any one thing, there are as many ‘English ethnicities’ as there are people born in England.

We can’t fix your racism for you Jonny, but we don’t have to let it go without challenging your hate based thinking.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

English ethnicity is a false construct, it’s not any one thing, there are as many ‘English ethnicities’ as there are people born in England.

Nonsense. You attempts at ethnic erasure are becoming increasingly unhinged/desperate.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

We can’t fix your racism for you Jonny, but we don’t have to let it go without challenging your hate based thinking.

Ironic coming from the biggest anti-white, DEI supporting, working class hating, bigoted snob and self confessed racist on the forum.

Just now, JonnyF said:

Nonsense. You attempts at ethnic erasure are becoming increasingly unhinged/desperate.

Ironic coming from the biggest anti-white, DEI supporting, working class hating, bigoted snob and self confessed racist on the forum.

More hogwash.

Let’s try this Jonny:

England has had a continuously present Jewish community that has existed in England since the Middle Ages.

So Jonny, tell us, are members of that community English?

And if they are not ‘English’ what are they?

According to Jasmine Crockett, the people who were rooting for Spain in the World Cup are....racist.

For leftist it's always racists.

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And if they are not ‘English’ what are they?

Technically, the ancestry is constantly morphing ...

From AI:

The original ancestry of England isa complex blend of ancient populations, primarily formed by the indigenous Celtic Britons and mass migrations of West Germanic tribes—the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes—who arrived from the 5th century forward.

The English people and their culture are specifically descended from a layered history of populations:

• The Indigenous Britons: Long before England existed, the island was inhabited by Celtic-speaking people. These indigenous groups were a mix of ancient Ice Age settlers, Neolithic farmers, and Bronze Age migrants.

• The Anglo-Saxons: Following the collapse of the Roman Empire in the 5th century, waves of Germanic tribes (the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes) migrated across the North Sea from modern-day Germany, the Netherlands, and Denmark. Genetic studies show these tribes had a massive impact, accounting for roughly three-quarters of the early medieval population's ancestry in eastern England. In fact, the name "England" (from Englaland ) translates directly to the "Land of the Angles."

• Subsequent Migrations: The English genetic landscape was further shaped by Viking/Norse invasions in the 9th and 10th centuries and the Norman Conquest in 1066, which introduced significant Scandinavian and French ancestry into the mix.

Edited July 22Jul 22 by save the frogs

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

England has had a continuously present Jewish community that has existed in England since the Middle Ages

More lies.

While a Jewish community was established shortly after the Norman Conquest in 1066, the entire population was expelled from the country by King Edward I in 1290. There were only a few thousand of them, maybe 0.1% of the population.

They didn't have a continuous presence and were officially readmitted to England in the 1650s under Cromwell.

Try harder, Higgot. Your racist attempts at the ethnic erasure of the English are failing. 😄

5 minutes ago, FinChin67 said:

According to Jasmine Crockett, the people who were rooting for Spain in the World Cup are....racist.

For leftist it's always racists.

The left are absolutely gutted one of their "diverse" (i.e. 80% black) European teams didn't win so they could shove "diversity and it's strengths" down everyone's throats. They started before the semi finals though - oops. 😄

Now, they're back to calling everyone racist.

The BBC still led with a story/picture of Lamine Yamal when Spain won though. Even though he contributed very little during the tournament. Gotta keep up the narrative. 😄

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

More lies.

While a Jewish community was established shortly after the Norman Conquest in 1066, the entire population was expelled from the country by King Edward I in 1290. There were only a few thousand of them, maybe 0.1% of the population.

They didn't have a continuous presence and were officially readmitted to England in the 1650s under Cromwell.

Try harder, Higgot. Your racist attempts at the ethnic erasure of the English are failing. 😄

Except Jonny, there were Jews that remained in England after the edict of expulsion, refer history of ‘The House of Converts’.

While much reduced in numbers during the Middle Ages, Jews have been present in England since the early Middle Ages.

So Jonny, tell us, are members of that community English?

And if they are not ‘English’ what are they?

Edited July 22Jul 22 by Chomper Higgot